Can People actually be more excited about a Level 5 game than a Tri-Ace game?

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seraphimon

I enjoyed Dark Cloud 2 more then any of those Tri Ace games.

didn't they also do professor layton and they're doing dragon quest 9

personally i'm a bigger level 5 fan

ofcourse i've only played DC2(didnt finish), Jeanne D'Arc(barely started) and professor layton which my gf beat but i never did

oops they did dq8 too, i got it for free but i can't really get into it

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seraphimon

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

[QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Gun-Unit

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

Both are on the same level IMO.

Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria was meh at best along with Raidata Stories. Star Ocean 3 Til the End of time was a great addition, but I thought the second story was better.

I actaully enjoyed Rogue Galaxy and Dark Cloud also to the same extent of the Enix/Tri Ace games/

[QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

blitzkid1

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

Funny, i felt the same way about Blue Dragon. Which you gave a 9.

Because White Knight is an exclusive. Same with why Tr-Ace games are getting hype, it is all just fuel for the System Wars fire.

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

AAllxxjjnn

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

Funny, i felt the same way about Blue Dragon. Which you gave a 9.

Thats nice.

[QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

blitzkid1

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

:o Blasphemy!

A cow who loves rpgs is more excited for Killzone 2 instead of Tales of Vesperia simply because

he's a cow. Being a fanboy sucks.

for some reason whenever i think of level 5 i think of intelligent systems

does anyone see why i make this comparison

both make generally epic rpg/strategy type games, while both also made a more casual ds game (facening for IS)

darkcloud2 was the best game i ever bought for $5, too bad I never finished it because my hammer upgrade got a little screwed up

oh level 5 is also making Inazuma Eleven

personally i'm more of an intelligent systems fan than anything, though right now i'm loving jupiter

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

GazzaB

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

:o Blasphemy!

im sorry but it was, the main character didnt even talk thats a huge turnoff for me and random battles like every 5 seconds.

lol no comparison? Someone hasnt played Dark cloud, as those 2 games are easily better than every single game that tri-ace has made.

Especially Star Ocean 3. I hated that one, and I find it sad that people are hyping the 4th one as if it's going to become a miraculously good series all of a sudden.

lol no comparison? Someone hasnt played Dark cloud, as those 2 games are easily better than every single game that tri-ace has made.

Especially Star Ocean 3. I hated that one, and I find it sad that people are hyping the 4th one as if it's going to become a miraculously good series all of a sudden.

ice144

Dark Cloud yay for dungeon crawling,Star Ocean 2 alone owns all of Levels 5s garbage.

im sorry but it was, the main character didnt even talk thats a huge turnoff for me and random battles like every 5 seconds.

blitzkid1

Really? The silent protagonist is one of my favorite video game elements. If for no other reason they don't try to force a certain characterization onto the character (EX, trying to make him/her a bad-ass, or overly angst ridden, ETC). I wish more games would do that instead of trying to force feed us more stereotypes.

And really, random encounters are just the nature of the beast (There are exceptions, though).

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

GazzaB

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

:o Blasphemy!

Game was decent. Story was linear and predictable. To me I think developers tried to keep the old school rpg elements such as battle system, characters, and story in typical jrpg games for that game.

Dragon Quest 8 + Rogue Galaxy>>>>> everything Tri-Ace has made since the original Valkrie Profile

I prefer 5 Levels over SE, Rogue Galaxy had very repetetive dungeons but overall I still thought it was a better game that FFXII and DQ8 although generic was great. Atlus and 5 Levels are the best JRPG developers IMO, SE and Tri-Ace have lost their touch but that doesn't mean FFXIII and IU/SO4 will be average, they could be the games that bring them back to their past glory.

Dragon Quest 8 + Rogue Galaxy>>>>> everything Tri-Ace has made since the original Valkrie Profile

I prefer 5 Levels over SE, Rogue Galaxy had very repetetive dungeons but overall I still thought it was a better game that FFXII and DQ8 although generic was great. Atlus and 5 Levels are the best JRPG developers IMO, SE and Tri-Ace have lost their touch but that doesn't mean FFXIII and IU/SO4 will be average, they could be the games that bring them back to their past glory.

Mongo-Boss

Star Ocean 2 >>>>> Level 5.

Really?

Level 5 has yet to make a game that felt as alive as Radiata Stories.

They've yet to make a game as unique as Valkryie Profile.

Silmeria alone thrashes their catalogue.

Dark Cloud 2 is the best game they've made, yet it apes better games.

Level 5 makes games that ape stalwarts of the genre they peep in.

Call me when they undertake something like IU, or Radiata Stories, for that matter.

And while SO3 was a hit or miss type of game, the first two are great.

One offshoot game doesn't ruin a series.

I will say this tho.....They do make their generic games hella pretty.

im sorry but it was, the main character didnt even talk thats a huge turnoff for me and random battles like every 5 seconds.

blitzkid1

Was DQ8 your first DQ game or something?

I liked Rogue Galaxy better then most of those games listed, but as a whole I would go with Tri-Ace. I had more fun with DC building my towns then I did with the very lackluster dungeons.

Slightly off-topic, LO was trashed for being too old school, I suppose for it's turn based combat. Meanwhile DQVIII took old school to a whole other level. I had to go to a priest to find out how much exp I needed to level, for Christ's sake.

Why, it is merely a matter of opinion good sir.

Why, it is merely a matter of opinion good sir.

metroidfood

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seraphimon

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="Gun-Unit"][QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

GazzaB

Level 5 alos made Dragon Quest 8.

DQ8 was more boring than looking at paint dry.

:o Blasphemy!

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seraphimon

No sir, are YOU kidding me? While it is all opinion, I much prefer Level 5 games to those made by Tri-Ace. Of your entire Tri-Ace list, the only one I enjoyed at all was Star Ocean 2 on the PS1. I felt that Star Ocean 3 was a boring a sloppy mess, that Radiata had amazing pacing issues that induced sleep like comas, and that Valkyrie Profile never knew which direction it should be going in and neither did the people playing it.

Dark Cloud and Dark Cloud 2 are RPG games at there experimentative best. They offer unqiue storylines coupled with an action RPG system and "city builder." Rogue Galaxy was expansive, beautiful, and difficult enough to keep my attention while giginv me enough story to keep me from passing out. Jeanne D'arc, which I feel to be Level 5's best game, is what I consider to be the TRUE successor to Final Fantasy Tactics from PS1. It took nearly everything that made that game amazing and updated it.

[QUOTE="Seraphimon"]

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Velric

No sir, are YOU kidding me? While it is all opinion, I much prefer Level 5 games to those made by Tri-Ace. Of your entire Tri-Ace list, the only one I enjoyed at all was Star Ocean 2 on the PS1. I felt that Star Ocean 3 was a boring a sloppy mess, that Radiata had amazing pacing issues that induced sleep like comas, and that Valkyrie Profile never knew which direction it should be going in and neither did the people playing it.

Dark Cloud and Dark Cloud 2 are RPG games at there experimentative best. They offer unqiue storylines coupled with an action RPG system and "city builder." Rogue Galaxy was expansive, beautiful, and difficult enough to keep my attention while giginv me enough story to keep me from passing out. Jeanne D'arc, which I feel to be Level 5's best game, is what I consider to be the TRUE successor to Final Fantasy Tactics from PS1. It took nearly everything that made that game amazing and updated it.

I enjoyed SO2 & VP... but yea, Level 5 has made the better games overall. Definitely more inventive, which is a major factor for me as an rpg gamer.

Seriously?

Someone made a thread about how 360 has no rpgs worthwhile, but then goes on to list WKS in the same breath as FF13.

Really?

Tri-Ace has made better games than anything Level 5 did, yet they get disregarded?

Boggles my mind.

Radiata Stories, Valkryie Profile:Silmeria, Star Ocean 3, Valkryrie Profile, Star Ocean:The Second Story.

Dark Cloud, Dark Cloud 2, Rogue Galaxy, Jeanne D'Arc.

There is no comparison.

Seraphimon

Here is what is really funny. I agree there is no comparison...but for different reasons. I loved the hell out of BOTH Dark Cloud games and the rumour of a third coming for PS3 blows my mind. Rogue Galaxy was also a stellar title. Meanwhile, I've never been a fan of Star Ocean OR the Valkryie games.

we are dealing with cows, what do u expect?

Level 5> Tri-Ace by a long shot IMO. The only title I disliked from from Level 5 was Rouge Galaxy. As for Tri-Ace I disliked most of their titles except for Valkyrie Profile 1,2. While on the other hand while I don't like Tri-Ace those two 360 titles look decent.