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#1 MJ4040
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Not all graphics come down to which has a better resolution and power, ill give you an example...

We know that KZ2 is prolly the best looking game on the PS3 (other than maybe UC2), well it runs on 1080i graphics, and yet it still looks better than all of the 1080p titles on the PS3. Even the 720p graphics graphics for KZ2 look more awesome than the other PS3 games.

Its all about detail, realism, shadowing, coloring, etc.

Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

Point blank, I can show you a 2009 cartoon on a regular tv that will look better than a 1950's cartoon on a LED tv. Resolution isnt everything!!!

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#2 WhyS
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The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.
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The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.WhyS
Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

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The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.WhyS
crysis has to many object pop tho thats the only real drawback on the graphics
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Not all graphics come down to which has a better resolution and power, ill give you an example...

We know that KZ2 is prolly the best looking game on the PS3 (other than maybe UC2), well it runs on 1080i graphics, and yet it still looks better than all of the 1080p titles on the PS3. Even the 720p graphics graphics for KZ2 look more awesome than the other PS3 games.

Its all about detail, realism, shadowing, coloring, etc.

Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

Point blank, I can show you a 2009 cartoon on a regular tv that will look better than a 1950's cartoon on a LED tv. Resolution isnt everything!!!

MJ4040

ermm..not only Crysis enviorements look far better than KZ2 ones, but also Crysis character models simply slaughter KZ2 ones
People don't say Crysis looks better than KZ2 because of the resolution, they say it because it has better models, better textures, far more dense level geometry and many times bigger scale.

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#6 washd123
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Not all graphics come down to which has a better resolution and power, ill give you an example...

We know that KZ2 is prolly the best looking game on the PS3 (other than maybe UC2), well it runs on 1080i graphics, and yet it still looks better than all of the 1080p titles on the PS3. Even the 720p graphics graphics for KZ2 look more awesome than the other PS3 games.

Its all about detail, realism, shadowing, coloring, etc.

Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

Point blank, I can show you a 2009 cartoon on a regular tv that will look better than a 1950's cartoon on a LED tv. Resolution isnt everything!!!

MJ4040

so..much..fail

my head hurts

1. what you describe are looks as in subjective

ie vampire rain looks better to me than KZ2 and guess what im right since its my opinion (not my actual opinion)

2. youre right it is more than just resolution. good thing the top pc games beat every console game in every other graphics area

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#7 washd123
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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.stereointegrity
crysis has to many object pop tho thats the only real drawback on the graphics

show me a game with crysis's scale that doesnt. and honestly its not as bad as most other games

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#8 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.MJ4040

Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?
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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.stereointegrity
crysis has to many object pop tho thats the only real drawback on the graphics

Set your object distance to very high. Problem solved.
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.JangoWuzHere
crysis has to many object pop tho thats the only real drawback on the graphics

Set your object distance to very high. Problem solved.

i did....i have everything on the realism mod going.....and with 6 gigs of 1066 ddr2 and a 4890 its still there
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#11 CaptainHarley
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1. what you describe are looks as in subjective

ie vampire rain looks better to me than KZ2 and guess what im right since its my opinion (not my actual opinion)

washd123

actually, i disagree with this. crysis looks objectively better than killzone 2. theres the notion of debate over what look better from s stylistic department, but from a technical perspective, crysis is better. im assuming the op is talking about the technical aspect, since hes talking shading, lighting, character models, etc. and cysis and kz2 both are 'realistic' looking games. their art direction is obviously different but the overall end product in what theyre trying to achieve isnt especially different (its not like comparing crysis to katamari or blazblue). from that standpoint, theres no leg to stand on. crysis looks way better.

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#12 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.MJ4040

Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

....i dont even kno where to begin...
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I really hope next gen comes soon so we can finally stop talking about Crysis...

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#14 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"]crysis has to many object pop tho thats the only real drawback on the graphicsstereointegrity
Set your object distance to very high. Problem solved.

i did....i have everything on the realism mod going.....and with 6 gigs of 1066 ddr2 and a 4890 its still there


Well it might be because I use the ultra high config, but I never noticed the pop up to be that bad. For such a large scale environment you will see pop up here and there

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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.MJ4040

Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

.

Seriously gtfo.

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#16 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] Set your object distance to very high. Problem solved.JangoWuzHere

i did....i have everything on the realism mod going.....and with 6 gigs of 1066 ddr2 and a 4890 its still there


Well it might be because I use the ultra high config, but I never noticed the pop up to be that bad. For such a large scale environment you will see pop up here and there

look at any video on youtube running 3d benchmark on crysis and you will see it alot of times with the bushes on the beach and rocks changing shape as u get closer....maybe i need a new cpu...who knows

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#17 MJ4040
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="MJ4040"]

The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.WhyS
Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?

I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???
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#18 MJ4040
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="MJ4040"]

The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.WhyS
Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

.

Seriously gtfo.

that didnt humor me at all. also, deathscape666 forgets that video games cant actually LOVE you and hold real conversations with you!!!
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#19 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="MJ4040"] Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

MJ4040

Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?

I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???

So you haven't played it? Then honestly your opinion is equal to a grain of salt. Water looking better in KZ2? That is sig worthy actually.

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#20 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="MJ4040"] Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

MJ4040

Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?

I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???

KZ2 couldn't touch this in it's wildest dreams. Nice try.

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#21 OPuniverse
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[QUOTE="MJ4040"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?JangoWuzHere

I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???

So you haven't played it? Then honestly your opinion is equal to a grain of salt. Water looking better in KZ2? That is sig worthy actually.

indeed sig worthy. maybe i should put it but nah :lol:. TC probably "SEEN" crysis's water in low settings.

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#22 longtonguecat
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TC rated Killzone 2 a 10.

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#23 whatisazerg
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hello TC

Crysis2009-09-2621-26-38-71.jpg Crysis War3 picture by Zandeus

Crysis2009-09-2621-27-13-12.jpg Crysis War2 picture by Zandeus

Crysis2009-09-2621-34-15-10.jpg Crysis War picture by Zandeus

Killzone2 WHA?

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#24 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="MJ4040"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] Oh dear. TC Have you played Crysis?Vaasman

I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???

KZ2 couldn't touch this in it's wildest dreams. Nice try.

PC pics only count if they are your own personal pics..... otherwise there is no ownage.

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Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

MJ4040

Somebody hasn't played Crysis!

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#26 Tekkenloving
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[QUOTE="WhyS"]The enviroment in Crysis can... Rival the enviroment in KZ2? haha funny. Cover your head, someone is coming. I can feel it in the water.MJ4040

Actually, the water looks better in KZ2 for the record.

I will just ignore everything you said about crysis because you obviously haven't played it, but the water in kz2 look extremely bad even for a console game.
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#27 KrazyKenKutarag
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Got my PS3 Slim today (!) and the first game I tried was Killzone 2. I loved the lighting, artstyle, models, everything was visually appealing to me. On the other hand, Crysis exceeds it in just about every category when it comes to graphics. Crysis is a visual beast and Killzone 2 simply doesn't hold a candle to it. By the way, the water is Crysis is one of the most impressive aspects of the game, Killzone 2's water looks stale and boring in comparison.

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#28 ChubbyGuy40
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Pic 1

Pic 2

It really doesn't get better than those at the moment.

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#29 washd123
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PC pics only count if they are your own personal pics..... otherwise there is no ownage.

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#30 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

PC pics only count if they are your own personal pics..... otherwise there is no ownage.

washd123

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now that is ownage....

btw. is that a mod, or just DX10?

and what are the specs of your rig?

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#31 fireballonfire
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We know darn well it isn't all about resolution, aa and FPS.

Because Cows seem to have problems understanding I'm gonna take my time and spell it out for them.

My humble PC, a decent machineI thoughtfully built has roughly 10 times the rendering power of a PS3. And if you are willing to go all the way you can build a machine three times the power of mine, now what does that say you?

Imagine now a PC-game, crysis. A game bringing my computer down to it's knees running ultra-high 1680 x 1024, 4AA at 30FPS. This should tell you that if a machine 10 times the power of the PS3 can barely run this game how on earth are games like KZ2 and UC2 gonna look better?

COW-LOGIC, 1 > 10

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#32 Blue-Sky
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Not all graphics come down to which has a better resolution and power, ill give you an example...

We know that KZ2 is prolly the best looking game on the PS3 (other than maybe UC2), well it runs on 1080i graphics, and yet it still looks better than all of the 1080p titles on the PS3. Even the 720p graphics graphics for KZ2 look more awesome than the other PS3 games.

Its all about detail, realism, shadowing, coloring, etc.

Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

Point blank, I can show you a 2009 cartoon on a regular tv that will look better than a 1950's cartoon on a LED tv. Resolution isnt everything!!!

MJ4040

I can't believe this was written, even for a joke.

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#33 washd123
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now that is ownage....

btw. is that a mod, or just DX10?

and what are the specs of your rig?

whatisazerg

the last pic is warhead DX9 on a mix of gamer and enthusiest settings

the rest are crysis dx9/10 with the CCC mod lvl5 (it looks the same DX9 and DX10)

specs

cpu: AMD X2 7750 2.7ghz

gpu: HD4890 925mhz core 1050mhz mem

Mem: 4gb 800mhz DDR2

resolution 1680x1050

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#34 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="MJ4040"] I have SEEN it, isnt that the point???whatisazerg

KZ2 couldn't touch this in it's wildest dreams. Nice try.

PC pics only count if they are your own personal pics..... otherwise there is no ownage.

ok give me a few minutes.

These are hot off my PC.

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#35 Dante2710
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Cows complain when threads get spammed with pics of crysis, yet they are the ones who create the majority of threads like these :? Lets start, you are talking as if you know anything about Crysis, why are u playing a 720p native game on an 1080i resolution? Second, killzone doesnt even come close to Crysis, even if its a linear corridor shooter. Third, go play crysis.

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#36 zipozal
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Crysis water

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#37 whatisazerg
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Thing is, as pretty as Crysis is.... I find it to be a terribly mediocre game.... I just don't have fun playing it, except for looking at the pretty environments.....

I want a deep RPG experience built using the CryEngine.

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#38 washd123
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Thing is, as pretty as Crysis is.... I find it to be a terribly mediocre game.... I just don't have fun playing it, except for looking at the pretty environments.....

I want a deep RPG experience built using the CryEngine.

whatisazerg

i found it incredibly refreshing and fun

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#39 fireballonfire
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Crysis is the best FPS-game ever. And I've been playing FPS-games since the dawn of them.

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#40 washd123
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Crysis is the best FPS-game ever. And I've been playing FPS-games since the dawn of them.

fireballonfire

deffently wouldnt go that far

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#41 shalashaska88
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Crysis water

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Simply amazing. :D
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#42 beekayjay
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Both games have two things in common: Both games look great as they are both strong in certain areas. Both games are boring as hell.
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#43 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="beekayjay"]Both games have two things in common: Both games look great as they are both strong in certain areas. Both games are boring as hell.

Crysis is only boring if the person playing it is boring. but with a little imagination you could have a lot of fun   ahhh goodtimes goodtimes
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#44 tionmedon
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i own all 3=pc qx6700=2.93ghtz,elite,ps3.all 3 hooked up 2 a 1920/1200 native montor so lets begen with crysis

simply put awsome,i also own kz2 so wheni put the game on the monitor resizes enough said.

now tryop=flashpoint pc/1200,360/1080i or p ps3/720 so 4 graghs quad rulzs

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"But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2."

lolwut?

*rubs hands together*

Let's see what Crysis pictures I have in my Photohucket.

Hmm.

(right click + view image for full resolution)

It's acutally very creepy how damn real the dude looks! lol :P

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#46 CPM_basic
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[QUOTE="MJ4040"]

Not all graphics come down to which has a better resolution and power, ill give you an example...

We know that KZ2 is prolly the best looking game on the PS3 (other than maybe UC2), well it runs on 1080i graphics, and yet it still looks better than all of the 1080p titles on the PS3. Even the 720p graphics graphics for KZ2 look more awesome than the other PS3 games.

Its all about detail, realism, shadowing, coloring, etc.

Now if you see the environment on Crysis, they can rival the environment graphically on KZ2. But if you look at the characters on Crysis, they wont even look as close as good to the characters on KZ2.

Point blank, I can show you a 2009 cartoon on a regular tv that will look better than a 1950's cartoon on a LED tv. Resolution isnt everything!!!

AdrianWerner

ermm..not only Crysis enviorements look far better than KZ2 ones, but also Crysis character models simply slaughter KZ2 ones
People don't say Crysis looks better than KZ2 because of the resolution, they say it because it has better models, better textures, far more dense level geometry and many times bigger scale.

I have to agree with your post. Here is a super old pic of the detail in a Crysis character model...

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#47 The__Havoc
Member since 2009 • 2350 Posts

This is a joke thread correct?

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#48 fireballonfire
Member since 2009 • 891 Posts

The point is why do we play FPS-games?

If you want a game with a strong story(half-life2), Crysis might not be for you.

If you want a top of the line multiplayer(it's solid), Crysis might not be for you.

If you want to be guided along a given path like a dog in a leech(too much freedom makes you crazy), Crysis might not be for you.

But if you like being creative and totally in control how you bring death and destruction, this game is a rush.

The incredible dynamic game-design also makes it hard to really give up on it. After two years I still keep on coming back for more, much thanks to the modding community I might add.

Finally,this game is much like, the more you bring it the more you get.

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#49 Dystopian-X
Member since 2008 • 8998 Posts

A cow troll getting a rise out of hermits who are posting Crysis screens...again.

I want a deep RPG experience built using the CryEngine.whatisazerg
Anything but a FPS for me.

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#50 beekayjay
Member since 2008 • 1732 Posts
That character close up is not that great. Texture stretching on the forehead and nose, the eyebrows are smudgy as hell, and there is odd discoloration on the nose that doesn't look convincing. I've seen better in-game shots of FIFA 10 players.