Can Sony Take 2009? - An Analysis

I am sure we all remember around this time last year when the whole world was saying that 2008 would be Sonys year and the Playstation 3 would take it by a landslide. however I think it is fair to say that this has not been the case. Many thought that Metal Gear Solid 4 alone would be enough for Sony to excel and take the number one spot, and surely enough they did beat Xbox 360 throughout the first half of the year on the NPD numbers. However Microsoft always proves the power of their business by exceeding over the competition. So lets ask ourselves, Will 2009 really be Sonys year?

The Games

With Killzone 2, God of war 3, and Yakuza 3 announced for 2009 speculation has already begun that Sony are taking the right steps for ensure the win. However it has now been proven that it is not always 1st party exclusive games that sell consoles, sometimes it is simply an already established franchise moving to another console that sways buyers. With Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy 13 being announced for 360 this may gain some new customers on the 360 side instead.

The Strategy

Rumor has it that Sony is planning a price drop in early 09 that should ensure the rate of Playstation 3 purchases increase, another needed strategy is to add the backward compatibility software to all Playstation 3's because this is a big factor new customers take into consideration when thinking of buying a new console. Seeing as most people previously had Playstation 2's they want to know they can play their PS2 library on the new system, but Sony is not giving people that kind of security currently and they do not seem to be opening up about their future plans with backward compatibility.

Also if Sony wishes to be on top they need to step up with their marketing. Notice how Microsoft hardly ever talks about anything they have planned for the next year? all their success is based on how powerful their marketing is and until Sony realises this and gets on the ball then they will fall behind. It's like all Microsoft has to do is release a few commercials, gain marketing deals for certain games, and have their console being played on various shows and sitcoms to be the most popular format. The fact is that Microsoft are a tough beast to compete with and Sony underestimated them due to the fact they beat them last generation.

Still Waiting

Today NXE has been released for the Xbox 360 and still no Home, even with the rumors of Sony waiting for NXE to come out so they could drop Home on the same day. Delays are a big part of Sony's problem and they can not continue in 2009, they have to learn not to announce dates they cannot stick to. Home really does need to come out sometime soon also if they have any plans on taking a lead in 2009.

In conclusion I think Sony releasing their line up is not enough to say they are taking 2009, Microsoft hardly every talk about their line up for the next year and it has always been this way. Sony need to rethink their strategy if they really are serious about beating the competition in 2009. They have a couple smash hit games announced for 09, plus games like Little Big Planet, Resistance 2 and Socom 3 might just keep people on their Playstations well into 09 with updated content. Lets just hope 2009 wont be another 2008 repeat where everyone seems so sure Sony will take the lead, only to be proved wrong. It is a bad look for Sony, and any more negative press is a danger to them.

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I for one think Sony took 2008 so yeah it will be easy for them to take 2009 to. :D

Nintendo will take it easily :( its a shame really.

i have a funny feeling sony will take it Oh Well i remember thinking this at the beginnning of this year.  

is this a serious thread?

edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic

If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.WatchmenWatchUs

it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

[QUOTE="WatchmenWatchUs"]If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.PrimusGears

it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.

You have no idea what your talking about do you?

is this a serious thread?

edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic

MarloStanfield

Nope never said that. I just said I don't like Half Life 2 and Killzone 2 is looking to be an awesome game.

[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

[QUOTE="WatchmenWatchUs"]If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.DavidooThe3rd

it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.

You have no idea what your talking about do you?

I dont think you do my friend. Do the numbers. Sony has a 1.5 million lead that will probably fall to about 400,000 at the end of 2008. Get the facts or please dont offer a retort.

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

FirstDiscovery

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

Javy03

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

As for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

Javy03

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

Very good post, It's something I've noticed too.

I'm sure Sony will march to victory in 09 the same way they did in 07 & 08.

On a price cut in early 09, why the hell would you do that if you were able, instead of doing it a month or two earlier during the holidays when most consoles are sold? Doesn't make sense and I wouldn't hold your breath for a price cut in the first couple of months of 09.

MS is set to win NA, its already beaten the PS3s lead, as it had two months of shortage and offcourse the MGS4 release

As for games, the 360 has done just fine, with Banjo, Lips and Naruto to go, all AA cadidates

FirstDiscovery

Winning NA means nothing, worldwide is what matters and even with MS back on top in NA right after its price cut, the sales PS3 aquired in NA during most of the year helped build its lead to most likely beat it worldwide again this year. As for game line up I am no fanboy and am not here to judge games. I know the 360 has had good games this year, my point is that according to SW standards set by MS fanboys, the year of award was given to the console with the most AAAA, AAA games. The PS3 had plenty of AAE in 07 as well but that didnt matter then did it.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

Javy03

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

And you may have noticed the AAE hypocrisy seems to be working both ways ;)

There are really no people left to buy ps3s. the owners of ps3s will have a ball with what sony is doing. but sales wise, the ps3 is probably gonna be slower than this yearAndrovinus

[QUOTE="DavidooThe3rd"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

 

it will, but not by much, and it also had a huge lead that is dwindling.

PrimusGears

You have no idea what your talking about do you?

I dont think you do my friend. Do the numbers. Sony has a 1.5 million lead that will probably fall to about 400,000 at the end of 2008. Get the facts or please dont offer a retort.

How about you learn to be a little more precise in your post's? In your original post you made it sound like Sony had "the lead" at the start of this gen and is slowly looseing it. Since the 360 launched first obv. it had the initial lead. A poor post coupled with the user name "Primusgears" lead me to beleive you where an idiotic fan boy. Still your infomation is not exactly correct...buddy

[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

blue_hazy_basic

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

And you may have noticed the AAE hypocrisy seems to be working both ways ;)

Date : Tuesday, 6 May 2008

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7386879.stm

And that was 6 months ago the ps3 is probably much further ahead now

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Javy03"]

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

micky4889

And you may have noticed the AAE hypocrisy seems to be working both ways ;)

Date : Tuesday, 6 May 2008

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7386879.stm

And that was 6 months ago the ps3 is probably much further ahead now

is this a serious thread?

edit: looks like it is. This is the same guy who said Killzone 2 wasmuch better than half life 2 :lol: another classic

MarloStanfield

Everytime i see that sig I laugh and just, am such in shock and awe, but i think PS3 took 360 in games this year, but i think ps3 has brought itself to even footing

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]There are really no people left to buy ps3s. the owners of ps3s will have a ball with what sony is doing. but sales wise, the ps3 is probably gonna be slower than this yearblue_hazy_basic

it wont take 09. GT5 and GOW3 wont make it. FF13 will be japan only.

360 has so much potential in 09 that the fact that not many non-360 fanboys know about it is criminal.

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]

MS will continue to fight, remember hwo doomed it was thsi year?

Oh yeah, and youre so right, Sony took 08, i mean they even caught up with the 360:roll:

Javy03

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

spot on;) 

If PS3 out sells 360 worldwide in 2008, i'll be surprised.WatchmenWatchUs

ill be surprised if it didnt, it outsolded it in the usa for 3/4 of the year, and out of the US is a given

How will the 360 play all of their ps2 games ?

God of War 3
Uncharted 2!
Ratchet and Clank
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy XIII!!!
Heavy Rain
Killzone 2
Infamous
David Jaffe games - possibly Twisted Metal :)
White Knight Story
Cory Barlog Game
Wardevil

Yea.. Ps3 has 2009 in the bag. 

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

Catching up to the 360s total worldwide sales and taking 08 are TWO different things. I love how the standards for "Year of" change because of the 360s flops. In 08 the PS3 was outselling the 360 worldwide for most of the year including NA, a place where MS was outselling the PS3 by 100K a month regularly last year. They cought up to the 360s total sales in Europe, improved PSN and MOST IMPORTANTLY had the most AAAA, AAA list. It currently has the only AAAA game. And somehow MS fanboys dont wanna admit it was the year of the PS3.

Heck in 07 all the 360 had to do was have the most AAA games and it was the year of the 360. It didnt matter that the Wii caught up to its total sales, or the PS3 outsold it worldwide. The standards were simple, "we don't play sales" and the best library wins. The PS3 was made fun of because it depended on AAE , (like the 360 had to for MOST of 08).

Double standards

blue_hazy_basic

And you may have noticed the AAE hypocrisy seems to be working both ways ;)

Does he really need one? If you look at all the software charts for countries outside of Europe PS3 dominates them.

There are really no people left to buy ps3s. the owners of ps3s will have a ball with what sony is doing. but sales wise, the ps3 is probably gonna be slower than this yearAndrovinus

You have got to be kidding me. PS3 is just heating up and for most people it is still a bit pricey. Sony hasn't even released it's flagship racing series yet on the console and there is no one left to buy PS3s. :roll:

God of War 3
Uncharted 2!
Ratchet and Clank
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy XIII!!!
Heavy Rain
Killzone 2
Infamous
David Jaffe games - possibly Twisted Metal :)
White Knight Story
Cory Barlog Game
Wardevil

 

Yea.. Ps3 has 2009 in the bag. 

Adrian_Cloud

Yeah that's a great list. You are missing a few but even without them that list is very exciting!

Sony is going to end up in dead last next year aswell as the 360 continues to sell well and the wii continues to dominate.

Have fun in last place cow's just like 07 and 08 :lol:

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

God of War 3
Uncharted 2!
Ratchet and Clank
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy XIII!!!
Heavy Rain
Killzone 2
Infamous
David Jaffe games - possibly Twisted Metal :)
White Knight Story
Cory Barlog Game
Wardevil

Yea.. Ps3 has 2009 in the bag.

jakarai

Yeah that's a great list. You are missing a few but even without them that list is very exciting!

wow i feel sorry for you if you think half those games will come out in 09. wtf cory barlog game, david jaffe games? can you guys stop saying that these are games please? here let me try, and you can see how rediculous it sounds cliff blyzenski game is being made right now guys, and lead director of forza is thinking of a new racing game, but has no tangible evidence of it existing.

[QUOTE="jakarai"][QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

God of War 3
Uncharted 2!
Ratchet and Clank
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy XIII!!!
Heavy Rain
Killzone 2
Infamous
David Jaffe games - possibly Twisted Metal :)
White Knight Story
Cory Barlog Game
Wardevil

 

Yea.. Ps3 has 2009 in the bag.

Fizzman

Yeah that's a great list. You are missing a few but even without them that list is very exciting!

wow i feel sorry for you if you think half those games will come out in 09. wtf cory barlog game, david jaffe games? can you guys stop saying that these are games please? here let me try, and you can see how rediculous it sounds cliff blyzenski game is being made right now guys, and lead director of forza is thinking of a new racing game, but has no tangible evidence of it existing.

Yup none of them will release next year just like Resistance 2 and Motorstorm: Pacific Rift didn't make this year. :roll: Oh and in case you don't understand people said the same thing about Motorstorm 2 and Resistance 2 when they were first announced.

Sony is going to end up in dead last next year aswell as the 360 continues to sell well and the wii continues to dominate.

Have fun in last place cow's just like 07 and 08 :lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

If Sony can get the price down to $299 next year PS3 has a good chance at catching up.