Can the 360 handle God of War 3? (Poll)

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#1 alexfla
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The graphics of Castlevania look just as good if not better than GOW. Is it safe to conclude that the 360 can run GOW3?

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#2 hexashadow13
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360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.
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#3 bizzy420
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The graphics of Castlevania look just as good if not better than GOW. Is it safe to conclude that the 360 can run GOW3?

alexfla
i think the 360 is capable of awesome graphics. i played the LOS demo, and it looks good, but honestly not GOW3 good. this is only based off of one level in the demo though. when the full game comes out i'll be able to make a better decision.
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#4 Ravensmash
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Most likely yes.
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#5 Shad0ki11
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I think the textures would look sharper than they do on PS3.

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#6 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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not exactly, its a bit more complicated than just yes or no. you would need a big rewrite for the 360 architecture and who knows what might get improved, nerfed, or just lost in translation.
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#7 Hatiko
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I heard that GOE3 takes up 6.? gigs on a blu-ray disc. The 360 disks aren't big enough.

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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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No guns in GoW3, so nope... it wouldn't handle it.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.

360 doesnt have a current game that uses it, but its more than capable. MLAA is used on PS3 because its cheaper than using traditional AA. 360 has EDRAM for essentially free AA, which is why most games on the console have AA where it is missing on PS3. PS3s split RAM restricts using traditional AA. Also, the threads of the SPUs could easily be transferred to traditional cores with ease, its harder the other way around.
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not exactly, its a bit more complicated than just yes or no. you would need a big rewrite for the 360 architecture and who knows what might get improved, nerfed, or just lost in translation. ferret-gamer
This^ and a poll on SW is not exactly the best source.

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#11 coasterguy65
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Of course it can. However putting a poll on this website asking for something about the Xbox is hardly scientific. I think if you put a poll up here asking if the 360 is available for $199 and $299 you would still get 60% of the votes saying no.

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#12 shinrabanshou
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It could be done, but would need major retooling - probably rebuilt from the ground up. A port will generally never be as good as a game designed for the platform.

Also iirc, GoWIII was 35 GB in size. The EU version was 40+ GB.

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#13 killzowned24
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LOS does NOT look as good.It is not safe to say.Honestly, DMC4 looks way better than LOS.
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#14 CaseyWegner
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how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

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#15 J-WOW
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[QUOTE="alexfla"]

The graphics of Castlevania look just as good if not better than GOW

See thats where you are wrong, its not even close to GOW3, it might have similar art style but not the same graphical level

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#16 Deathtransit
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I haven't played LOS yet but I'm very doubtful it looks as good. But anyways, no, the 360 is not going to have games that look as good as PS3 exclusives, because the 360 will never have a development team as dedicated to the 360 as Sony's studios are to the PS3. And this is why PS3 beats 360: incredible studios backed with enough support to do what they do. Sony makes games, and doesn't send their best studio to make "Kinectimals"
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#17 georgia_bulll
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The graphics of Castlevania look just as good if not better than GOW. Is it safe to conclude that the 360 can run GOW3?

alexfla

the bold part, you messed up right there you need to try again. I'd like to see a game journalist back you up on that comment but something tells me you won't be able to provide one.

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#18 SolidTy
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The graphics of Castlevania look just as good if not better than GOW. Is it safe to conclude that the 360 can run GOW3?

alexfla

Link?

I haven't read that by any known critics at all.

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#19 georgia_bulll
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how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

CaseyWegner

wait a minute, didn't you just tell people they can't pretend that stuff dosen't exist?

Right now you are pretending like Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, and God of War 3 don't exist on PS3 and only on PS3, that mens not on xbox360. There isn't a game on xbox360 avalible on the market today that is said to look better than any one of those games by any professional in the industry right now,

so no you are wrong, the 360 can't do everything the PS3 can do and vice versa until it actually dose it.

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#20 Pug-Nasty
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Probably not.

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#22 i_am_interested
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screenshot developers unite
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#23 zarshack
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I don't know. I said Maybe. There were times it felt like the PS3 was really struggling with the game. Like when you start seeing flowery wallpaper when loading up the bit after dieing when fighting Zues at the end, but that bit of the game looked really amazing.

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#24 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]LOS does NOT look as good.It is not safe to say.Honestly, DMC4 looks way better than LOS.Slashkice

Demo to demo, Lords of Shadow does look better. I know the retail version of GOW3 is improved, but the same could apply to Castlevania.

I know the Castlevania demo recently released, but so did the actual game as well. The GOWIII demo was an old E3 build.

I would suggest we just compare the two actual games, since they are the final products, and lucky for us, they are out.


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#25 georgia_bulll
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]LOS does NOT look as good.It is not safe to say.Honestly, DMC4 looks way better than LOS.SolidTy

Demo to demo, Lords of Shadow does look better. I know the retail version of GOW3 is improved, but the same could apply to Castlevania.

I know the Castlevania demo recently released, but so did the actual game as well. The GOWIII demo was an old E3 build.

I would suggest we just compare the two actual games, since they are the final products, and lucky for us, they are out.


The only problem is the game is for the PS3, xbox360 and the PC. we don't konw which scenes Gamespot used from which platform. with God of War 3 we know it's all 100% PS3.

someone could post a really great pic of LOS saying trying to compaire it to GOW3 but it most likely wont be from the 360 it could be a maxed out PC shot.

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#27 georgia_bulll
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also didn't reviews say that the game had trouble running on the 360 in comparison to the PS3 version? keep in mind it's a game that is less technically demanding than GOW3.

We don't even know if 360 has the ability to implamnet MLAA into any of it's games in playable form (and to handle GOW3 it would mean having to use MLAA) , not to mention that this game dosen't even have MLAA, has a ton of jaggies and it still struggles to run on 360 hardware.

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#28 millerlight89
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not exactly, its a bit more complicated than just yes or no. you would need a big rewrite for the 360 architecture and who knows what might get improved, nerfed, or just lost in translation. ferret-gamer
This is the only right answer.
a poll on SW is not exactly the best source.

NVIDIATI

And this

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#29 rawr89
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]LOS does NOT look as good.It is not safe to say.Honestly, DMC4 looks way better than LOS.Slashkice

Demo to demo, Lords of Shadow does look better. I know the retail version of GOW3 is improved, but the same could apply to Castlevania.

no, you just can't compare GoW3 to LoS no matter how hard you try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzA-ZZ56mLU

this is what Santa Monica can to do from the demo to the final version. safe to say, MercurySteam is no Santa Monica.

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#30 georgia_bulll
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how about a simple ol skool screen shot comparison and a just NO?

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#31 AmayaPapaya
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Well the next possible Graphics Kings, Rage says yes.

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#32 heybooboo19
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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]LOS does NOT look as good.It is not safe to say.Honestly, DMC4 looks way better than LOS.SolidTy

Demo to demo, Lords of Shadow does look better. I know the retail version of GOW3 is improved, but the same could apply to Castlevania.

I know the Castlevania demo recently released, but so did the actual game as well. The GOWIII demo was an old E3 build.

I would suggest we just compare the two actual games, since they are the final products, and lucky for us, they are out.


Castlevania demo is an old build as well. Not that anyone should expect a dramatic IQ change in retail LoS.
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#33 GreenGoblin2099
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I haven't played LOS yet but I'm very doubtful it looks as good. But anyways, no, the 360 is not going to have games that look as good as PS3 exclusives, because the 360 will never have a development team as dedicated to the 360 as Sony's studios are to the PS3. And this is why PS3 beats 360: incredible studios backed with enough support to do what they do. Sony makes games, and doesn't send their best studio to make "Kinectimals"Deathtransit

Wow!! So much resentment in that last line!! :o

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#34 2Chalupas
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Maybe. Not easily though. 2 years from now there will probably be multiple games on consoles that look better than GOW3. BTW I played the Castlevania demo on PSN and it's not close to GOW3 anyway. Not in terms of character models, the animations weren't as smooth, and not in terms of environment. Castlevania still looks way above average, but GOW3 looks MUCH better (and might still be the best looking PS3 game).
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#35 KevinButlerVP
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how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

CaseyWegner
than why can the PS3 produce much better graphics than the 360?
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#36 soulitane
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

KevinButlerVP
than why can the PS3 produce much better graphics than the 360?

Because sony has much more talented developers?
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#37 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.

Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.
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#38 georgia_bulll
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Well the next possible Graphics Kings, Rage says yes.

AmayaPapaya

lol, why do people say this? Are people hoping for xbox360 hardware to magically upgrade? this game you are clinging on dosen't release until the end of 2011.

You'll probably be hyping the next next possible graphics king by then, in the mean while GT5, Killzone 3, and Infamous 2 will all probably been released and be called best graphics on consoles by some official journlist or game reviewr somewhere. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping a multiplatfom 360 game will beat all those PS3 exclusives.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.Tessellation
Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.

yeah, that scale that just sits there

its like that mag thread where mag could be done on 360 for the following reasons

- unimpressive screenshots

- 360 has 1 vs 100

- world of warcraft ran on a pentium 2

- planetside ran on a pentium 3

- etc etc etc

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.i_am_interested
Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.

yeah don't forget Halo Reach's dumb AI.....

Why would you hype the number of enemies on-screen in Halo Reach if the enemies are superiorly stupid?

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#41 soulitane
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.yugioh3ds

Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.

yeah don't forget Halo Reach's dumb AI.....

Why would you hype the number of enemies on-screen in Halo Reach if the enemies are superiorly stupid?

Isn't that the same with GOW3? So I fail to see why you bring that up.
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

soulitane

than why can the PS3 produce much better graphics than the 360?

Because sony has much more talented developers?

lol, so talented developer make hardware proform beyond it's limits? please.

So I should have saved my money on my PS3 gameing PC and 360 and just have got some talented developers to work on the PS1 and BOOM magically it produces Playstation 23x3421 graphixz

lol, in other words xbox360 develpers have no talant. Since this is such a known fact there should be no one defending 360 games. Bungie included since they are incompetent of making games the same quality as PS3 devs, Bioware...I mean since the consoles are the same and all (even tho they are not) according to your, "it's just the developers" claim.

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#43 rawr89
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

how far are we into this generation now? certainly long enough to realize that what the ps3 can do so can the 360 and vice versa.

soulitane

than why can the PS3 produce much better graphics than the 360?

Because sony has much more talented developers?

and because the 360 is inferior. 5 years in the market, and no 360 game can look as good as Killzone 2, or Uncharted 2, or God of War 3.

'bu...bu...but...360 devs care about gameplay rather than graphics!'

lol. like KZ2, UC2, and GOW3 don't have gameplay. :roll:

besides, why can't 360 do bothgraphics and gameplay?:roll:

assuming 360 can produce GoW3 because of things like 'but Sony has talented devs!' or 'no engine has been made from the ground up for the 360!' are the lamest excuses ever.

that's like saying, 'hey, i can jump 50 feet, it's just that i have never bothered jumping that high.' kinda ridiculous.

unless the 360 can prove us wrong, don't make false assumptions sound like it's the truth. because really, false assumptions are just that. far from the truth.

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#44 worknow222
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[QUOTE="yugioh3ds"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.soulitane

yeah don't forget Halo Reach's dumb AI.....

Why would you hype the number of enemies on-screen in Halo Reach if the enemies are superiorly stupid?

Isn't that the same with GOW3? So I fail to see why you bring that up.

Thing is god of wars AI is Dumb as hell reachs AI is Up with the best if not the Best,

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#45 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Well the next possible Graphics Kings, Rage says yes.

georgia_bulll

lol, why do people say this? Are people hoping for xbox360 hardware to magically upgrade? this game you are clinging on dosen't release until the end of 2011.

You'll probably be hyping the next next possible graphics king by then, in the mean while GT5, Killzone 3, and Infamous 2 will all probably been released and be called best graphics on consoles by some official journlist or game reviewr somewhere. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping a multiplatfom 360 game will beat all those PS3 exclusives.

If you are so entranced by "official Journalists" deciding your view for you thing might i bring up this?Where your very own Official Playstation Magazine says Rage is the best looking shooter on ps3 over Killzone 3

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#46 strangeisland
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I think it's called Bayoneta

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Sure it could, why couldn't it aside from obvious intellectual property sharing issues?
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#48 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"]360 doesn't have MLAAs. SPUs also help with the scale.yugioh3ds

Halo Reach scale makes GOW3 scale look inferior.

yeah don't forget Halo Reach's dumb AI.....

Why would you hype the number of enemies on-screen in Halo Reach if the enemies are superiorly stupid?



Halo Reach enemies A.I isn't dumb,that simple shows u haven't touch the game and GOW3 enemies A.I isn't as good.

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#49 i_am_interested
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screenshot developers "i dont know anything about the optimized cpu code running on spus so i look at screenshots and determine that yes, gow3 can run on 360"

MAG thread all over again, actually its every ps3 exclusive thread again, apparently screenshots = entire system performance analysis

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#50 waltefmoney
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Of course it can. I lost count of how many experienced developers have stated that 360 and PS3 are equal in power.