Can the PS3 pull into second?

The PS3 Slim and the price drop are all anyone are talking about these past few days so I decided to take a poll.

In one corner we have the fact that the PS3 80gb is already sold out in MANY retail locations. This site: http://thegameraccess.com/ps3/ps3-slim-hitting-early
says that many retail locations are sold out and somewhere on the same site it says that 6 people were outside of Best Buy waiting before it opened to buy a PS3. The fact that sales have been very low is likely because people knew the price cut was coming. If 120K people in the US bought PS3s when a price drop was common knowledge to anyone who did research then imagine what will happen with new hardware and a $100 price drop. The PS3 was also outsold by the 360 last quarter by only 100K units (worldwide). Not bad.

In the other corner we have a huge install base that will likely encourage people to go out and buy one. The fact that if you ever wanted to play online with someone you know it would probably be on CoD4 or Halo via Xbox Live. It is possible that the 360 sells because it sold earlier. Why own a 360 if no one has one? Why own a PS3 if no one has one. The logic may stay the same for years. Also Halo and Gears are HUGE. Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, and even Killzone aren't known enough to sell the system a purchase of the system.

Personally, I think it could go either way. If enough people think they are getting a $600 machine for only $300 that may sway some buyers. Then again the argument that it has no games doesn't seem to go away. What do you guys think?

2nd ? maybe more possible then first ,,

because 360 isnt to far away , , but the wii is way far in the front and continues to sell sales of ps3 in japan actually are in trouble once again seling near ps2s 5000 and under , \

If the Slim is successful and if Sony advertises the hell out of it. Yes.

SONY needs to worry about SONY, and forget FIRST, SECOND, or THIRD.

The competition is going to do what they need to do.

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I predict the PS3 will sell about 60-80 million units when this generation is all over, where the other companies fall is up to them.

Sure, the PS3 is no PS2 in sales (160 Million +), but Sony knew the the PS3 wasn't going to sell like that when they released a $600 console, with Blu-Ray capabilities, and gave the competiton a year head start.

minus the headstart yes..

SONY needs to worry about SONY, and forget FIRST, SECOND, or THIRD.

I predict the PS3 will sell about 60-80 million units when this generation is all over, where the other companies fall is up to them.

Sure, the PS3 is no PS2 in sales, but Sony knew that when they wanted a win in the FORMAT war.

SolidTy

Am I SONY? No. I am not affiliated with Sony in any way. You do realise that Sony has consistantly said "we do not focus too much on the competion" and "we do not pay much attention to what the competition is doing."

Depends how this holiday season turns out

I'm not going to say it is definitly going to happen,but it wouldn't be a surprise to me. It has more games that appeal to me than any other console this gen (even though I don't have one :( ). I would like it to pull into second but with the economy the way it is I'm not so sure. $50 difference a Wii or $100 for a 360 can change someones mind.

It could but the next 5 months are useless for analysis of longetivity. Sales will be up regardles. We will have to wait till next year to see if the momentum stays let alone if MS makes a big move.

its sad really......talkina bout 2nd place.........lmao

nintendo wooped everyones ass

if u aint first u last

dont matter dont even talk about sales.........360 n ps3 = owned by wii

The PS3 will pass the 360 if Sony continues to keep it's system as cheap as the 360 or cheaper and continues with it's improvements with it's online features and keeps it free. The PS3 currently has 3 huge things in it's favor 1. It's hardware is far superior from what it can do to reliability. 2. It's free online service getting better and better. 3. It's currently $299 vs the Elite at $399 and it has better hardware than the Elite. It's the same price as the arcade and it demolishes the Arcade hardwarewise. In September MS is taking out HDMI and going to selling only Elites, this coupled with what Sony has done I think will help Sony catch and pass the 360.But only if things stay as they're looking they will and MS doesn't lower it's price. Even if it does I can't see it lowering it more than from $399 to $299 making it even priced with PS3 and the PS3 will still be way more capable hardwarewise and reliabilitywise. Also the PS3 now comes in 2 versions the Slim and Regular. The 360 will only come in the Elite form which isn't as capable of a machine.

The PS3 will pass the 360 if Sony continues to keep it's system as cheap as the 360 or cheaper and continues with it's improvements with it's online features and keeps it free. The PS3 currently has 3 huge things in it's favor 1. It's hardware is far superior from what it can do to reliability. 2. It's free online service getting better and better. 3. It's currently $299 vs the Elite at $399 and it has better hardware than the Elite. It's the same price as the arcade and it demolishes the Arcade hardwarewise. In September MS is taking out HDMI and going to selling only Elites, this coupled with what Sony has done I think will help Sony catch and pass the 360.But only if things stay as they're looking they will and MS doesn't lower it's price. Even if it does I can't see it lowering it more than from $399 to $299 making it even priced with PS3 and the PS3 will still be way more capable hardwarewise and reliabilitywise. Also the PS3 now comes in 2 versions the Slim and Regular. The 360 will only come in the Elite form which isn't as capable of a machine.

patriots7672

In what timeframe? We all know Sony and cows alike enjoy playing the "lifetime" sales card even though halfway through the "lifetime" the next gen begins. Who the hell will care if the ps3 passes the 360 when the new systems are out? Only sony and massive fanboys, by then it's irrelevant. As for this gen, no, they can not get 2nd place before the next gen starts. DeadMagazines

If the PS3 passes the 360 before, lets say 2014 (since it looks like next gen is 2012-2013) then it finishes in second. After that they'll be irrelevant. Sound fair?

Who thinks the PS3 will pass the 360 by 2014?

I'm not going to say it is definitly going to happen,but it wouldn't be a surprise to me. It has more games that appeal to me than any other console this gen (even though I don't have one :( ). I would like it to pull into second but with the economy the way it is I'm not so sure. $50 difference a Wii or $100 for a 360 can change someones mind.

randomwiiplayer

Yes, but a Wii is like a Chevy Aveo and a PS3 is like a Lexus. I would pay an extra $50 for the Lexus.

Yes, eventually.

You just proved that Sony is deceptive. People paid the same price now that they could pay to get the slim and a bigger HD.

The answer is no alway's has been and a slightly smaller design won't sell nearly enough to take over the 360 Sony pretty much admit's it with the price drop and even the price drop won't change many people's mind's enough to buy.

if it does make its way to second place the 'next' generation would be starting

as far as this gen, sure it will sell a ton of consoles, but i dont think it will surpass the xbox

theoretically? yes. will it happen? maybe. do i think it will? noSilverChimera

I have the same feeling.

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"]In what timeframe? We all know Sony and cows alike enjoy playing the "lifetime" sales card even though halfway through the "lifetime" the next gen begins. Who the hell will care if the ps3 passes the 360 when the new systems are out? Only sony and massive fanboys, by then it's irrelevant. As for this gen, no, they can not get 2nd place before the next gen starts. gamefan274

If the PS3 passes the 360 before, lets say 2014 (since it looks like next gen is 2012-2013) then it finishes in second. After that they'll be irrelevant. Sound fair?

Who thinks the PS3 will pass the 360 by 2014?

[QUOTE="gamefan274"]

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"]In what timeframe? We all know Sony and cows alike enjoy playing the "lifetime" sales card even though halfway through the "lifetime" the next gen begins. Who the hell will care if the ps3 passes the 360 when the new systems are out? Only sony and massive fanboys, by then it's irrelevant. As for this gen, no, they can not get 2nd place before the next gen starts. DeadMagazines

If the PS3 passes the 360 before, lets say 2014 (since it looks like next gen is 2012-2013) then it finishes in second. After that they'll be irrelevant. Sound fair?

Who thinks the PS3 will pass the 360 by 2014?

If the Xbox sold enough units to pass the PS2 NOW I think people would care. It would also be funny!

How about this, Will PS3 pull into second while the PS3 and 360 are still relevant? That way it goes into next gen until everyone has pretty much moved on (like today, where most have upgraded). Does that satisfy your demands?

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="gamefan274"] Why not use lifetime sales? The PS2 still sells. Why would those not count. When this gen started it wasn't hugely relevent to those of us who didn't run out and buy a PS3/Wii/360. The origional Xbox was given up when the 360 released.

If the PS3 passes the 360 before, lets say 2014 (since it looks like next gen is 2012-2013) then it finishes in second. After that they'll be irrelevant. Sound fair?

Who thinks the PS3 will pass the 360 by 2014?

gamefan274

If the Xbox sold enough units to pass the PS2 NOW I think people would care. It would also be funny!

How about this, Will PS3 pull into second while the PS3 and 360 are still relevant? That way it goes into next gen until everyone has pretty much moved on (like today, where most have upgraded). Does that satisfy your demands?

[QUOTE="gamefan274"]

[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"] So if the original xbox outsells the ps2 next year, who will care? No one. Same situation if the ps3 outsells the 360 when the next gen is underway. It's irrelevant unless you're Sony/massive fanboy.DeadMagazines

If the Xbox sold enough units to pass the PS2 NOW I think people would care. It would also be funny!

How about this, Will PS3 pull into second while the PS3 and 360 are still relevant? That way it goes into next gen until everyone has pretty much moved on (like today, where most have upgraded). Does that satisfy your demands?

Yeah but you said something... uh... relevance... god****it your right :D!

The PS3 will one day over take the 360 due to the 360 reaching the end of it's shelf life and entering it's natural decline,as well asit's market saturation, i.e. everyone who wanted one has one, but by the time it does we'll probably be talking about the new consoles

Who the hell knows or cares? Honestly Id rather SONY be worried about themselves instead of waht place they're in because they arent doing so hot.

They have all the advantages to bring the heat on MS.

1- They have a strong momentum right now after announcing the PS3 slim and the new price combo.

2- they also have a headstart release of their motion sensing technology and if Sony treats it the right way coupled with point #1, it could do big damage to MS next year and what I mean by treating it the right way is.

• Releasing killer non-gamers, casual and hardcore appealing titles for their motion controller.
• with strong marketing and good bundling deals.

They could overshadow MS with their motion technology if they do it right which brings big sales just as what Nintendo did.

its sad really......talkina bout 2nd place.........lmao

nintendo wooped everyones ass

if u aint first u last

dont matter dont even talk about sales.........360 n ps3 = owned by wii

anshuk20002

One person told me once that the Holy War is between the 360 and the PS3. Wii is pretty much ruled out because:

1- The massive sales it has

2- It's the weakest console out of the 3.

[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]

its sad really......talkina bout 2nd place.........lmao

nintendo wooped everyones ass

if u aint first u last

dont matter dont even talk about sales.........360 n ps3 = owned by wii

GreenGoblin2099

One person told me once that the Holy War is between the 360 and the PS3. Wii is pretty much ruled out because:

1- The massive sales it has

2- It's the weakest console out of the 3.

well that one person told u a lame excuse

no if the 720 is out before ps3 is stop selling, that dont count , ms still gets the silver because ps3 wont have the competition no more

wii 2 would be out at the same time if not a lil sooner then 360s /ps3 successor so it dont matter, because the next gen would have started look at ps2, yes it won last gen but current sales wont be the factor because gc and xbox no longer are being sold so the ps2 cant be delclared another winner because it being sold in the 7th gen

I think it could, but it probably won't. Only time will tell.

If it does, then it won't be for a few years.

At least 2012. if not later.

Sure, the PS3 is no PS2 in sales (160 Million +), but Sony knew the the PS3 wasn't going to sell like that when they released a $600 console, with Blu-Ray capabilities, and gave the competiton a year head start.

SolidTy

True. But i'm pretty sure that both MS and Sony didn't expect the Wii to sell like it does. That could have changed their long-term strategy.

Wow, it looks like more people voted yes.

I take it they would have voted in here as well?

They're essentially the same

So it's about sales nowEazyD91

you must be new to System Wars.

Sales has always been a major topic of discussion.

This generation, the one before it, and the one before that, and the one before that...

yeah, and this all on the assumption as well that MS just sits down twiddling their thumbs?

No because MS arent stupid to simply sit around and let Sony take second place. Remember when we laughed at them back in E3 08 for saying theyll beat Sony, and remember what happened a few months later? Same thing, MS are also probably looking at their own slimmer system and will be very aggressive when it comes to pricing. -Pred-Alien-

You think there is a possible ODST or Forza 3 bundle coming or an Elite bundled with both....

well it depends... should PS3 slim start selling like crazy on a monthly basis and 360 start selling much less there is a good chance of Sony catching up with MS and take the 2nd spot..

However I dont think Sony cares much about getting in second place, they probably just want to make sure PS3 has long legs like PS2 and get back a huge part of their install base back in order to be in a better position once next-gen kicks off.. Its important that Sony keeps focusing on games and make sure their console is supported by 1st/2nd party devs and 3rd party devs for the coming yrs, so that gamers are happy with their PS3's and what being offered..

No because MS arent stupid to simply sit around and let Sony take second place. Remember when we laughed at them back in E3 08 for saying theyll beat Sony, and remember what happened a few months later? Same thing, MS are also probably looking at their own slimmer system and will be very aggressive when it comes to pricing. -Pred-Alien-

well they are preparing for the launch of Project natal- likening to a new console launch.

Xbox360 Natal SKU maybe?

They also need to chuck in that 1TB hard drive if the rumours are true.

If on September 1st XBOX 360 stops selling all systems worldwide and PS3 sales increase 200% they could take second place by 2013.

im sure in uk ps3 will beat 360 in sales now.

If it gets Japan, then yes.Jandurin

It already has Japan over Xbox360.

How many millions does t have to sell over there to make the difference World Wide?

Anyway isn't Japan the smallest country now?

We're not talking about region.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]If it gets Japan, then yes.AdmiralBison

It already has Japan over Xbox360.

How many millions does t have to sell over there to make the difference World Wide?

Anyway isn't Japan the smallest country now?

We're not talking about region.