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#1 Silenthps
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According to the The Official Nintendo Magazine , the first version of the Sonic Unleashed Wii Visuals are identical to those which were issued to date on the net! The design is defined as truly next-gen for the Nintendo console.

http://wiinintendo.net/2008/04/10/sonic-unleashedtruly-next-gen-for-the-wii/ < link. sry glitchspot is keeping me from linking it.

The more I look at them, the more i think its actually possible for the Wii to handle it. This is deffinately a huuuuuge step in wii's graphics and probably more so in its 3rd party support. If all wii games start looking like that, maybe more dev's will start porting their PS3/360 titles to Wii with a little graphical downgrade!

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#2 Homesrfan
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No... I really think the Wii version will look worse and will probably disappoint us. I really want to be wrong though.
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#3 metroidfood
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Erm no, I'm pretty sure those were confirmed to be 360 shots. I don't believe any shots of the Wii game have been released/leaked.
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#4 EuroMafia
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I find that hard to believe, but who knows.
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#5 Arsenal325
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woah looks beautiful.. i like that style.. nice and colorful
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#6 jack_russel
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sure the wii can do that. It looks about on par with galaxy.
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#7 PBSnipes
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It should be close, it's not like we're looking at OMG Crysis level textures and detail. However I highly doubt the Wii can pull off that lighting.
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#8 mattbbpl
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That looks pretty good. Not near 360/PS3 good, but nice and clean. I like it.

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#9 manicfoot
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Those really look like shots from the 360 version to me. Though to be honest I wouldn't be suprised if it turned out to be the Wii version. Sonic and the Secret Rings was a really nice looking game. I think if the Wii was pushed really hard it would be able to pull off visuals like that.
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#10 mattbbpl
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Erm no, I'm pretty sure those were confirmed to be 360 shots. I don't believe any shots of the Wii game have been released/leaked.metroidfood

Maybe, but it's disappointing for the 360. The textures aren't varied at all.

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#11 mjarantilla
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It should be close, it's not like we're looking at OMG Crysis level textures and detail. However I highly doubt the Wii can pull off that lighting.PBSnipes

The lighting actually looks pretty basic if you look at it. There's no detailed shadows of the tree leaves and branches, and the smaller tree branches and leaves themselves look like they're composed of flat textures rather than actual models. And it's not like the Wii is incapable of shadows. Maybe real-time dynamic shadows from multiple light sources, but this new Sonic looks like an on-rails game, which means shadows will largely be static except for Sonic himself.

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#12 wolverine08
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I wouldnt say it looks on PAR with Galaxy, the lighting looks alittle better,

but i think the wii could be very close to that

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#13 JakeTD21
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The original images were in 720p, so im pretty sure they are not for the Wii.
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#14 haziqonfire
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It could probably do that, it looks about as good as super mario galaxy, a bit more..
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#15 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]It should be close, it's not like we're looking at OMG Crysis level textures and detail. However I highly doubt the Wii can pull off that lighting.mjarantilla

The lighting actually looks pretty basic if you look at it. There's no detailed shadows of the tree leaves and branches, and the smaller tree branches and leaves themselves look like they're composed of flat textures rather than actual models. And it's not like the Wii is incapable of shadows. Maybe real-time dynamic shadows from multiple light sources, but this new Sonic looks like an on-rails game, which means shadows will largely be static except for Sonic himself.

Yeah the more I look at it the more feasible the lighting seems. Either way it's a fantastic looking game.
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#16 BubbyJello
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I think the Wii could handle that. Everything looks pretty octagonal. I wouldn't say its as good looking a Galaxy.
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#17 MikeE21286
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No... I really think all the versions will look worse and will probably disappoint us. I really want to be wrong though.Homesrfan

fixed lol

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#18 -TheSecondSign-
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I doubt it will look that good.
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#19 AndrewStar101
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I dont find those pictures that good looking to be honest, average at best.
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#20 EmilioDigsIt
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It looks like a larger Mario Galaxy. the 360/PS3 version should look alot better.
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#21 laughingman42
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from a technical level it looks about on par with SMG.
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#22 laughingman42
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from a technical level it looks about on par with SMG, but with few jaggies. Maybe they just added some AA to them, but knowing sega its probably the PS3/360 version.
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#23 SpruceCaboose
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I have this strange feeling that those shots have had some post-shot processing done to them, as they appear to clean for even PS3/360 shots in terms of jaggies/etc.
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#24 nintendofreak_2
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I wouldn't doubt it. It's probably close to maxing it out though. It blows SMG out of the water though (at least I think so).
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#25 mjarantilla
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I have this strange feeling that those shots have had some post-shot processing done to them, as they appear to clean for even PS3/360 shots in terms of jaggies/etc.SpruceCaboose

Oh, absolutely these are bullshots. But if you ignore the extra polish and just look at the geometry and lighting, it's all pretty doable even on the Wii.

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#26 Brown52
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I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

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#27 mjarantilla
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I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

Brown52

Go buy King Kong and see all that the 360 can do!

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#28 nintendofreak_2
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I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

Brown52
Because Mario Kart Wii is obviously pushing the envelope of the Wii's hardware. :roll:
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#29 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]

I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

nintendofreak_2
Because Mario Kart Wii is obviously pushing the envelope of the Wii's hardware. :roll:

I know. Nintendo needs to really stop rehasing the n64 visuals
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Brown52"]

I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

Brown52
Because Mario Kart Wii is obviously pushing the envelope of the Wii's hardware. :roll:

I know. Nintendo needs to really stop rehasing the n64 visuals


:lol: I didnt know mario kart Wii looked like Mario Kart 64
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#31 ff7isnumbaone
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lol no maybe the orginal xbox but wii, no
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#32 beinss
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No that looks more for 360 graphics. Sonic is too well rounded to be on the Wii. And the bluring affects arnt anything the wii could handle.
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#33 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"][QUOTE="Brown52"]

I see a lot of wishful sheep in this thread :lol:

Go buy MarioKart Wii so you can all come back to reality :lol:

Haziqonfire
Because Mario Kart Wii is obviously pushing the envelope of the Wii's hardware. :roll:

I know. Nintendo needs to really stop rehasing the n64 visuals


:lol: I didnt know mario kart Wii looked like Mario Kart 64

I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:
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#34 haziqonfire
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I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:Brown52

oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.
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#35 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:Haziqonfire

oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.

Why are you trying to argue straight with him?

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Brown52"]I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:mjarantilla


oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.

Why are you trying to argue straight with him?

Exactly, don't feed the troll.
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Brown52"]I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:mjarantilla


oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.

Why are you trying to argue straight with him?


Its fun & i have nothing else to do.. :)
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#38 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Brown52"]I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:mjarantilla


oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.

Why are you trying to argue straight with him?

Why are you arguing about video games at all
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#39 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Brown52"]I guess you haven't seen the screenshot then :roll:Brown52


oh, i have They look far better than anything the N64 could produce. Plus, Mario Kart Wii isnt a graphical showcase for the Wii like Super Mario Galaxy is.

Nice try though.

Why are you trying to argue straight with him?

Why are you arguing about video games at all

Because if I don't keep my fingers busy on the keyboard, they do naughty things.

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#40 nintendofreak_2
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Because if I don't keep my fingers busy on the keyboard, they do naughty things.

mjarantilla
He isn't kidding. :(
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#41 Marth6781
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No that looks more for 360 graphics. Sonic is too well rounded to be on the Wii. And the bluring affects arnt anything the wii could handle.beinss

Wii can do everything ps3/360 can do, just to a lesser extent.

The wii can pull of those bluring effects.

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#42 FireEmblem_Man
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I'll wait and see at E3.

Sega hasn't confirmed which system these shots are from. Or did they?

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#43 Heydanbud92
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Besides the natural looking lighting, and the really smooth edges... this game looks like an Xbox game.
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#44 Teuf_
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Wii can do everything ps3/360 can do, just to a lesser extent.

Marth6781


So can the PS2, and the N64....

There comes a point where you need to draw the line for what's feasible.
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#45 Marth6781
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[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Wii can do everything ps3/360 can do, just to a lesser extent.

Teufelhuhn



So can the PS2, and the N64....

There comes a point where you need to draw the line for what's feasible.

You know what I mean, Rouge sqaudron still loks great even today.

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#46 Vis-a-Vis
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If Wii can pull that off my jaw would be on the floor, literally I would be stunned.

That looks great for 360/PS3, let alone the Wii? I'd be immensly impressed.

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#47 NFS102
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Those look like 360 screens to me. But if they are Wii then awesome. I still don't think the rest of the game will be that good though.
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#48 m_machine024
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I think that the draw distance in the second pic is too good for Wii.
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#49 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Wii can do everything ps3/360 can do, just to a lesser extent.

Marth6781



So can the PS2, and the N64....

There comes a point where you need to draw the line for what's feasible.

You know what I mean, Rouge sqaudron still loks great even today.



No, I don't know what you mean. I could come up with a laundry list of things not feasible on the Wii that are on the 360 or PS3.
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#50 Shinobishyguy
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sure the wii can do that. It looks about on par with galaxy.jack_russel
This.

Although not at the resolution that those screens are displayed on.