Can the Wii win the battle and still loose the war?

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#1 jbeen
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I have seen numerous threads of sheep planting there flags on the mountain and calming victory of the system wars. That is right the Wii has taken over Greenland and has declared victory over the world.... Wait. Maybe not. Even if the Wii sells the most consoles does that mean it is the best? Is it possible that it can sell the most systems this genand still loose? Look at is this way. Some of the best games of this gen (AAA titles) have not been released nor will they ever be released for the Wii, Why? well could you imagine playing Bioshock, Resistance or Oblivion on the Wii? the control might be cool but the game would be so downgraded graphically (and audio) that it would be unplayable. The Wii will loose out or more AAA 3rd party games then any of the other 3 (360, ps3 or PC), and this is winning? And while I know that none of the other three i mentioned above will be able to play Mario or Zelda or anyofNintendo's first party gamesI think the Wii's looses more thanthey gain. And I do admire Nintendo's marketing plan to bringvideo games to the masses I think overall the Wii not being able to play the best of the 3rd party games this gen will, in the long run, will hurt it. So what i am saying is if you are a true gamer it is imposable to own a Wii and not have one of the other 3 systems if you want to get the best games. While you could own just a PC, 360or ps3 and not miss out on nearly as many great titles.
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#2 hojobojo
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Even if the Wii sells the most consoles does that mean it is the best? jbeen

I thought winning in system wars is getting the most sales.. that's how PS2 won anyhow.

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#3 jbeen
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PS2 had the best games and the most systems sold. As of now that can't be said of the Wii.
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#4 Ontain
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what ppl think of games is just opinion. what ppl actually put down money for is fact. you might not like it but the winner in the console war is always the one that has the most marketshare.

remember that what we on this forum thing is a great game may not be what the average console/game buyers thinks. Eventually the whole definition of what is a "good" game may chance just like fashion.

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#5 Ontain
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PS2 had the best games and the most systems sold. As of now that can't be said of the Wii.jbeen

it's less than a year old. when the ps2 came out the DC had a much better library but the ps2 quickly eclipsed it in sales. it wasn't till much latter that the library caught up too.

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#6 jbeen
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So here is system wars the PC has won? Long live the PC.

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#7 Ontain
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So here is system wars the PC has won? Long live the PC.

jbeen

PC always wins if it's included. that's why ppl usually talk consoles. the only cons for the pc are price and complexity. and the price difference is now less with the price on this gens systems. upgrading a new pc to a gaming pc is the same cost. (if you buy a new pc every 5 years)

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I know, and I am not a PC gamer but acording to the mods here the PC counts so the Wii people need to calm down.
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I have seen numerous threads of sheep planting there flags on the mountain and calming victory of the system wars. That is right the Wii has taken over Greenland and has declared victory over the world.... Wait. Maybe not. Even if the Wii sells the most consoles does that mean it is the best? Is it possible that it can sell the most systems this genand still loose? Look at is this way. Some of the best games of this gen (AAA titles) have not been released nor will they ever be released for the Wii, Why? well could you imagine playing Bioshock, Resistance or Oblivion on the Wii? the control might be cool but the game would be so downgraded graphically (and audio) that it would be unplayable. The Wii will loose out or more AAA 3rd party games then any of the other 3 (360, ps3 or PC), and this is winning? And while I know that none of the other three i mentioned above will be able to play Mario or Zelda or anyofNintendo's first party gamesI think the Wii's looses more thanthey gain. And I do admire Nintendo's marketing plan to bringvideo games to the masses I think overall the Wii not being able to play the best of the 3rd party games this gen will, in the long run, will hurt it. So what i am saying is if you are a true gamer it is imposable to own a Wii and not have one of the other 3 systems if you want to get the best games. While you could own just a PC, 360or ps3 and not miss out on nearly as many great titles.jbeen

i mean thats what its doing now isnt it?

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#10 Blind0825
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This isn't a knock on you (I didn't even read the post) but for the love of god people...its lose...not loose, loose is the opposite of tight. For some odd reason that bugs the crap out of me.

Commence calling me a spelling nazi now. :P

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#11 Playstation97
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It's to early to claim a winner here. We will find out who won when the next generation beginns. But I don't see the Wii on the #1 spot for long. By this time next year....it will loose #1. Just wait and see!!
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Oblivion was playable using oldblivion. :/
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#13 Ontain
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It's to early to claim a winner here. We will find out who won when the next generation beginns. But I don't see the Wii on the #1 spot for long. By this time next year....it will loose #1. Just wait and see!!Playstation97

to whom will it lose #1 to? 360 has a chance but it's near impossible for the ps3 to overtake the wii by this time next year. the wii would have to sell 0 while the ps3 would have the sell more than double what it's already sold for that to happen.

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[QUOTE="Playstation97"]It's to early to claim a winner here. We will find out who won when the next generation beginns. But I don't see the Wii on the #1 spot for long. By this time next year....it will loose #1. Just wait and see!!Ontain

to whom will it lose #1 to? 360 has a chance but it's near impossible for the ps3 to overtake the wii by this time next year. the wii would have to sell 0 while the ps3 would have the sell more than double what it's already sold for that to happen.

Yes the 360 has a chance but I expect big things from the PS3 next year with the arrival of MGS4.....and no one looks at the PS3 eyetoy now, but it has far greater potential than the Wiimote.

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It's to early to claim a winner here. We will find out who won when the next generation beginns. But I don't see the Wii on the #1 spot for long. By this time next year....it will loose #1. Just wait and see!!Playstation97

Can I borrow that crystal ball sometime buddy?:roll:

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#16 flyingzeke
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The Wii really looks like a different kind of battle to me. It's one of those things where it will probably have 75% marketshare, but that Sony and MS will each have 50% as well (or whatever. Declaring a winner among those two is not the point of my post). As inexpensive as the Wii is, there are quite a few people who have it along with other, more traditional, consoles.
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#17 coreygames
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I was underthe impression that sale determined the winner. Especially after having to put up with cows those last few weeks before the Wii and PS3 came out, but now that the tables have turned, suddenly sales don't count for much. You see a bunch of them complaining about how sheep only use sales, then they should look no further than a year ago when ever post made by one of them was to promote victory by sales. We can't change the rules from gen. to gen. Either the Wii is winning now, or the PS2 didn't win last gen.
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#18 coreygames
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Playstation97"]It's to early to claim a winner here. We will find out who won when the next generation beginns. But I don't see the Wii on the #1 spot for long. By this time next year....it will loose #1. Just wait and see!!Playstation97

to whom will it lose #1 to? 360 has a chance but it's near impossible for the ps3 to overtake the wii by this time next year. the wii would have to sell 0 while the ps3 would have the sell more than double what it's already sold for that to happen.

Yes the 360 has a chance but I expect big things from the PS3 next year with the arrival of MGS4.....and no one looks at the PS3 eyetoy now, but it has far greater potential than the Wiimote.

The PS3 eyetoy is the equivelant of the fitness pad.
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if u ignore any platform...ure going to miss out. this cannot be denied imho. every platform has its first and 3rd party exclusives and many will be great. wii is absolutely no exception to this. every gamer shoudl at least try MP3 on the wii....no exceptions. a new control scheme for consoles for the FPS genre....hasnt been seen in 10 years (hell hasnt changed much in 15+ years on PC). seriously if u say u love playing games then u have to try it. u may not like it...u may think "meh" or u may go wow but u should really really try it if at all possible.

ive been gaming 19 years on loads of platforms, from the BBC and atari 2600 to the 360 and my newish PC (see sig). as a gamer of 19 years....wii fascinates me. and theres no way in hell im missing out on games like MP3, galaxy, zack and wiki, no more heros and loads more. games have been poor so far (bar some exceptions like TP), some have been dire but this is a long road. ignore the wii and u will miss out on alot of class (and that applies to all platforms) and alot of new and interesting ideas.

ignore wii and u will miss out....that simple.