Can we just nominate a select few sites from which reviews are allowed?????

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#1 dubvisions
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I mean, this is getting rediculous, on ALL sides. We're getting all these bargain basement images of possible mag scans that don't mean crap. Reviews from fanboy or biased sites. And everything in between.

I have heard many say that they feel IGN and GS are the ones they are most comfortable with in being unbiased and fair.

Can we nominate (what do you guys say, 4?) 4 "Official Review" sites for us to comment and quote. This way, all of the other trash is left aside and not filling these boards. And this way, no reviews are actually discussed before any reviews are actually released. Wouldn't that be nice?

What do you gusy think? Is this fair? How many sites should be alloted? How often should it be reviewed (new sites chosen, swapped whatever to keep it fresh)?

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#2 Sir-Marwin105
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I say we just use Metacritic.
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#3 JPOBS
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Gamespot only.

My thread was based upon the fatc that warhawk and lair obviously suck coming from a playstation mag :lol:

BTW, this has been done SO MANY TIMES. Its always resolved into only gs. and even if we kept 4 official sites, anyone could use any other site the same way they use them now. You provide no solutions. Having 4 or 1 official site will not stop people from making those kinds of posts.

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#4 JiveT
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We should use nextgenireland as the sole source for everything.
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#5 BuryMe
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Scores ONLY come from gamespot. News comes from any reliable source.

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#6 wolverine4262
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No, GS and GS alone....we're going to get "all of the other trash" no matter what, though.....
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#7 JPOBS
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We should use nextgenireland as the sole source for everything. JiveT
i lol'd
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#8 dubvisions
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Scores ONLY come from gamespot. News comes from any reliable source.

BuryMe

But how do you prove reliability with all of the sources out there? I must say, i have a hard time believing a mag scan, especially if its very low quality.

Have any of you ever worked with PhotoShop?

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#9 DanBal76
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You know what issad? A few months ago only GS score would matter. GS had the best gaming forums and the best review system. Now it's left only with the forums. Anyway, i think the best way to see a game value is its ratio on GameRankings. Single reviews GS was the best. Well, that is past.I don't care about GS reviews anymore, but i still love these forums.

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#10 l-_-l
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I mean, this is getting rediculous, on ALL sides. We're getting all these bargain basement images of possible mag scans that don't mean crap. Reviews from fanboy or biased sites. And everything in between.

I have heard many say that they feel IGN and GS are the ones they are most comfortable with in being unbiased and fair.

Can we nominate (what do you guys say, 4?) 4 "Official Review" sites for us to comment and quote. This way, all of the other trash is left aside and not filling these boards. And this way, no reviews are actually discussed before any reviews are actually released. Wouldn't that be nice?

What do you gusy think? Is this fair? How many sites should be alloted? How often should it be reviewed (new sites chosen, swapped whatever to keep it fresh)?

dubvisions
Hehe, I already use other sites besides this one for my reviews. I stopped caring about GS reviews so much when they changed. I think it is pretty stupid to go off just one sites reviews. It's like taking a poll and only asking one person.
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would prolly agree, there are a couple other places I pay attention to for scores, but gamespot and ign are the most important imo, they base it on final builds and are the closest to objectivity.
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#12 dubvisions
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Hehe, I already use other sites besides this one for my reviews. I stopped caring about GS reviews so much when they changed. I think it is pretty stupid to go off just one sites reviews. It's like taking a poll and only asking one person.l-_-l

You quote me, yet, it doesn't seem you read what i said.

We should pick four, or whatever number everyone is comfortable with, different sites and only use them for discussion and quoting here in GS. That way we get different perspectives but all perspectives that are seen as unbiased.

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#13 Riverwolf007
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If you are going to allow any other site it has to be metacritic, but it's pointless to keep bringing this up because it's Gamespots site and why would you use other sites reviews on GS.
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We should use nextgenireland as the sole source for everything. JiveT

And Sony Defence Force!

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#15 Not-A-Stalker
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Gamespot only... but otherwise,

IGN
1UP
CVG
Metacritic

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I don't read the threads that I don't want to read. Like those lame character vs. character threads. That's my solution.
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#17 Omnisystem
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I dont know about GS anymore, after what they did with such a great game...Bioshock. A game like this after ages and GS gives it a 9.0 for crappy reasons.

It should have at least been a 9.5.

I am now starting to lean more towards reviews from IGN.

However, WE SHOULD VALUE OUR OWN OPINIONS ON A GAME MORE THAN ANYONE ELSES.

Everyone has a different taste in gaming. For example, there are people who absolutely love, say...Halo, and there are some who hate it. Also, those who are in between.

Why let one good or bad review change how you feel about the game? If it comes this far, GO RENT THE GAME and try it first.

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#18 dubvisions
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If you are going to allow any other site it has to be metacritic, but it's pointless to keep bringing this up because it's Gamespots site and why would you use other sites reviews on GS.Riverwolf007

Because using only one point of view would be pointless. It would be meaningless. You need to get more af a survey from various sources. But, once again, those sources need to be some that the majority feel are fair.

I don't think GS would have an issue with this.I think GS is fair.

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Crazy thought here, but how about we use GS reviews?

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#20 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]If you are going to allow any other site it has to be metacritic, but it's pointless to keep bringing this up because it's Gamespots site and why would you use other sites reviews on GS.dubvisions

Because using only one point of view would be pointless. It would be meaningless. You need to get more af a survey from various sources. But, once again, those sources need to be some that the majority feel are fair.

I don't think GS would have an issue with this.I think GS is fair.

Reviews themselves are pointless, if you are doing anything other than using them as a general guideline to supplement your own judgement you are a loser anyway.

Anyway GL on this my bioshock break is over.

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#21 samusarmada
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I dont know about GS anymore, after what they did with such a great game...Bioshock. A game like this after ages and GS gives it a 9.0 for crappy reasons.

It should have at least been a 9.5.

I am now starting to lean more towards reviews from IGN.

However, WE SHOULD VALUE OUR OWN OPINIONS ON A GAME MORE THAN ANYONE ELSES.

Everyone has a different taste in gaming. For example, there are people who absolutely love, say...Halo, and there are some who hate it. Also, those who are in between.

Why let one good or bad review change how you feel about the game? If it comes this far, GO RENT THE GAME and try it first.

Omnisystem

Man, think what happens when corruption, halo 3, smash bros, galaxy and gta get reviewed.

It appears that only great games can get a 9.5.

when according to GS a great game is 8.0 :?

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#22 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Hehe, I already use other sites besides this one for my reviews. I stopped caring about GS reviews so much when they changed. I think it is pretty stupid to go off just one sites reviews. It's like taking a poll and only asking one person.dubvisions

You quote me, yet, it doesn't seem you read what i said.

We should pick four, or whatever number everyone is comfortable with, different sites and only use them for discussion and quoting here in GS. That way we get different perspectives but all perspectives that are seen as unbiased.

Yes, I read what you said, thats why I said I already do that.........DUH!!!!!!!! :roll:
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#23 munu9
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GS only, just because lemmings are going crazy trying to use other sites as ownage doesn't mean we have to allow other sites to be officially used in SW for them...
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#24 dubvisions
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[QUOTE="dubvisions"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Hehe, I already use other sites besides this one for my reviews. I stopped caring about GS reviews so much when they changed. I think it is pretty stupid to go off just one sites reviews. It's like taking a poll and only asking one person.l-_-l

You quote me, yet, it doesn't seem you read what i said.

We should pick four, or whatever number everyone is comfortable with, different sites and only use them for discussion and quoting here in GS. That way we get different perspectives but all perspectives that are seen as unbiased.

Yes, I read what you said, thats why I said I already do that.........DUH!!!!!!!! :roll:

Than nominate some sites. its the whole point of the thread!!!

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#25 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="l-_-l"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]Hehe, I already use other sites besides this one for my reviews. I stopped caring about GS reviews so much when they changed. I think it is pretty stupid to go off just one sites reviews. It's like taking a poll and only asking one person.dubvisions

You quote me, yet, it doesn't seem you read what i said.

We should pick four, or whatever number everyone is comfortable with, different sites and only use them for discussion and quoting here in GS. That way we get different perspectives but all perspectives that are seen as unbiased.

Yes, I read what you said, thats why I said I already do that.........DUH!!!!!!!! :roll:

Than nominate some sites. its the whole point of the thread!!!

EDGE magazine.

They write the best reviews. Period.

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#26 daveg1
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if a game that anyone wants to score well and it does at some random site someone will post it...no question..

the only one that should matter here is the one gs gives a game..

or you should just play the game yourself and see what YOU think of it..

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#27 Tactis
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i have a personal tier system

first tier(good reviews i listen to them the most)ign, gamespot, gametrailers, and 1up

2nd tier(still good reviews less professional andmore biased that first tier)teamxbox official xbox magazine, PSW, PSM, nintendo magazine, eurogamer, EGM

3rd tier(don't pay too much attention too) play and anything thats very obscure

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#29 WeAreToast
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We should use nextgenireland as the sole source for everything. JiveT

At that rate, I'll be hyping the next 24 game to be AAA.

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#30 dubvisions
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if a game that anyone wants to score well and it does at some random site someone will post it...no question..

daveg1

I want to get the nominated sites voted on and set in cement. Then have it as a rule in System wars. If you post a picture or a link to a review that is not from the selected few, you are punished.

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#31 dubvisions
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i have a personal tier system

first tier(good reviews i listen to them the most)ign, gamespot, gametrailers, and 1up

2nd tier(still good reviews less professional andmore biased that first tier)teamxbox official xbox magazine, PSW, PSM, nintendo magazine, eurogamer, EGM

3rd tier(don't pay too much attention too) play and anything thats very obscure

Tactis
Gamespot's System Wars Forum needs to have the same tiers. Except, leave out tiers two and three!!!
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#32 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

if a game that anyone wants to score well and it does at some random site someone will post it...no question..

dubvisions

I want to get the nominated sites voted on and set in cement. Then have it as a rule in System wars. If you post a picture or a link to a review that is not from the selected few, you are punished.

you mean well but i expect the mods have a hard enough time keeping system wars in check as it is instead of chasing downeveryone who posts something about a game getting good scores at a martian web site...
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SDF all the way!
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#34 OhhSnap50893
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Only Gamespot counts, that's always been the rule.
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#35 ProductNumber49
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Funny thing is that fanboys say that only Gs reviews are valid here at SW. If a game flops somewhere else,they say..Wait for teh GS review. And when GS review comes up, they say..Screw GS,it doesn't deserve the score.:|

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i think it's a good idea seeing as how bioshock, possibly the greatest game of all time, scored lower than it should have, because of a glitch you'll experience four times throughout the entire game, equally OMG 20 seconds of game time lost!!!.
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#37 dubvisions
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you mean well but i expect the mods have a hard enough time keeping system wars in check as it is instead of chasing downeveryone who posts something about a game getting good scores at a martian web site...daveg1

They change the rules almost on a daily basis. You have to look at the stickies everyday to see what you can and can't discuss.

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#38 dubvisions
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Only Gamespot counts, that's always been the rule.OhhSnap50893

If that was the case, we wouldn't be seeing links to mag scans.

Funny thing is that fanboys say that only Gs reviews are valid here at SW. If a game flops somewhere else,they say..Wait for teh GS review. And when GS review comes up, they say..Screw GS,it doesn't deserve the score.:|

ProductNumber49

That is why we select a chosen few. Then no one can say one doesn't count or counts over another. The chosen few would be equal.

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#39 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

you mean well but i expect the mods have a hard enough time keeping system wars in check as it is instead of chasing downeveryone who posts something about a game getting good scores at a martian web site...dubvisions

They change the rules almost on a daily basis. You have to look at the stickies everyday to see what you can and can't discuss.

everything that is in the stickies is still inline with the T.O.S.. you should try the feedback forumfor this,,.you might get more luck there..

this is all from me since this is off topic really..:)

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#40 GundamGuy0
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When sheep said this after TP flopped... they were laughed out...

This is happening after Bioshock met it's hype... XD... :lol:

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#41 Riverwolf007
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Wait I changed my mind! We should only use Play magazine from now on. #1 Because it is printed on great paper & #2 because I want to only have to choose between AAA and AAAA for every game ever made. Since we want to change it anyway might as well make things as simple as possible.
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#42 dubvisions
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Can we see some more nominations? We have a decent list going.

I'm down with GS, Metacritic,and IGN, thus far.

And how many should we have???