Can you think of creative ways to use the Touchpad on the DUALSHOCK4?

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#1 megaspiderweb09
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If indeed the touchpad on the Dualshock 4 is to become an extension of buttons as a form of input, are there really wayz developers can utilize them in ways that make gaming sense. Would get to swipe the touch pad to throw a grenade in an FPS, or double tap to change motto gears in a Racer or pull a zigzag to cast a spell in an RPG?

I really cannot see an addition use for the touchpad as a form of gaming input except for perhaps, maybe a game that demands complex inputs like ARMA3 where you have multiple levels of zero on target. What are your opinions on this new feature?

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Also here is an interview with head of Sony World Wide Shuhei Yoshida by kotaku where he mentions some touchpad features

http://kotaku.com/5985921/a-man-who-has-used-the-ps4s-new-controller-tells-us-why-its-better

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#2 Basinboy
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Outside of games that require touch input (Angry Birds + others), I can't imagine it being used for anything more than managing menus more fluidly.  Any gameplay integration would be very gimmicky at best.

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Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.
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Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite...or games that require you to pet some sort of sidekick
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Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.SuddenlySudden

Are you infering rape?

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#6 psymon100
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Wouldn't mind trying it out for aiming in fps. 

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#8 hoola
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No, and its a complete waste.  Developers won't be able to utilize it for anything more than a button or a flick for mini games.  pointless. 

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Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.SuddenlySudden

You've just woken the dragon.

Inb4 Drasonak.

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[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.Clock-w0rk

You've just woken the dragon.

Inb4 Drasonak.

wow you guys have dragons in this forum? This place is intense I'm not sure I can handle
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#12 Lionheart08
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For a game like Okami or LittleBigPlanet, it'd be useful.

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#13 SuddenlySudden
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[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.megaspiderweb09

Are you infering rape?

No haha whoa what??? Now we have rapist in this forums too?
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to steal PC games like Total War and Guild Wars 2 :P

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#15 WilliamRLBaker
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no its a gimmick and not even a good one since its a touch pad on the back of the controller. this is just like the chat pads microsoft release an intuitive one sony copies and screws it up by putting the thing ontop of you controller.
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#16 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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It's kinda like Sony looking at Nintendo and saying "well we got our stuff too, we're innovatitve too!" maybe you can move blocks in Little Big Planet with it? Just like the Sixaxis and Back trackpad, sad IMO. 

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Tickling Sully's mustache and bum in uncharted 4, and not necessarily in that order.
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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="SuddenlySudden"]Inappropriate and women exploiting games like Dead or Alive or Katherine...Or Bioshock Infinite.SuddenlySudden

You've just woken the dragon.

Inb4 Drasonak.

wow you guys have dragons in this forum? This place is intense I'm not sure I can handle

He's coming.

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#19 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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Probably some dumb shit if you swipe it you stab the Killzone man in the neck! Blood all over the place! 

 

*Facepalm 

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#20 Gue1
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who care about the touchpad anyway? It will be just as useless as the the screen on the Wii U but at least not as big.  We should be happy that the PS4 will be mainly for traditional gaming and the gimmicks will be on a second plane with move and the camera. The DS4 will be ergonomic, they fixed the triggers, reduced latency... This is good enough for me. My only complain is that it looks ugly.

Someday we'll get true innovation, let's not just forced it now just because the Wii was a success because the fact is that the Wii-mote was crap and ultimately pointless. I think evolving the online aspect and making it more social and easier to connect with friends is the way to go, for now. But I'm completely against always on, blocking used games and forcing all these festures on people that don't want them. Everything should be kept optional.

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#22 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Well, it's clickable and has two point touch. That alone opens up the other buttons. It will be interesting to see what it's used for. At first I looked at it and I'm thinking to myself, "okay, that can do Nintendo Land.". Every system ships with one, so games could incorporate lower level wiiu functionality, and then offer "enhanced vita interfaces" in this respect.
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#23 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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For a game like Okami or LittleBigPlanet, it'd be useful.

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I think you'd need a much larger screen/pad to to pull off drawing huge lines and circles in okami.
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#25 Nintendo_Ownes7
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The touchpad is basically the same as the touchpad in laptops so whatever a touchpad can do on laptop it could do that on the PS4.

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#26 Nengo_Flow
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The touchpad is basically the same as the touchpad in laptops so whatever a touchpad can do on laptop it could do that on the PS4.

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#27 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

Wouldn't mind trying it out for aiming in fps. 

Nengo_Flow

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Yes you're right. Instead, let's never ever try it, and just assume it's not going to work. 

That was sarcasm. 

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#29 Nintendo_Ownes7
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..why couldn't it be used like the Wii-U pad to scan an environment.   Sure the screen would be uber small but  it could work on a smaller scale. 

..also why not used it as a quick-map system for RPG's or AA games.  

Other than that I could see any good used beyond some gimmick sh!t. 

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It isn't a touchscreen it is a touchpad similar to the laptops.

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#30 Zeviander
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Umm... a swiped button replacement? There really isn't much else it could be used for at such a small size.
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#31 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

..why couldn't it be used like the Wii-U pad to scan an environment.   Sure the screen would be uber small but  it could work on a smaller scale. 

..also why not used it as a quick-map system for RPG's or AA games.  

Other than that I could see any good used beyond some gimmick sh!t. 

Nintendo_Ownes7

It isn't a touchscreen it is a touchpad similar to the laptops.

..yea realized that after I typed it. :P Having said that I can't think of one damn thing you could do with that.. :?
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#32 -Patrick_92-
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I can see it being used for menus, would be quicker to scroll though large lists.  I could see it being used on map screens as well, pinching to zoom in, and just quicker way to get from one side of a map to another by swiping.  Web browsing would be a lot easier on PS4 than it was on PS3, could use the touchpad like a laptop's track pad.

For gameplay uses I don't see much, maybe puzzle solving in games like LBP (the touch and backtouch in LBP Vita was really good).  You could maybe use it to bring up the scoreboard, cause there is no more select buttion.

Keep in mind that the touchpad is clickable, so even if devs don't use it as a touchpad they can just use it as a regular button.

Overall I think it will mostly help out in menus, maybe devs will be able to surprise us with some other uses they can find for it.

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#33 Fossil-
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Menus, drag and drop, zoom in/out, web browsing, select groups of units (though RTS would still be terrible on consoles), an extra button that could be used for just about anything. It's hardly revolutionary, but I don't get why people are acting like it's useless either. It's a fairly innocuous feature that could be used for a lot of things if devs feel like utilizing it. If they don't, no skin off my back. It's not like the system is being designed around the touchpad.
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#34 k2theswiss
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i think they should turn it into a touch screen. You will still get the benefit of a touch pad but, if the dev chooses they can do more with the screen

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#35 rjdofu
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Something like dis

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Come on Sony, gives us dat exclusive in 1080p/60fps.

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#37 PSP107
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No, and its a complete waste.  Developers won't be able to utilize it for anything more than a button or a flick for mini games.  pointless. 

hoola
Pretty much this. Especially if MSoft doesnt have a touchpad which means 3rd party will ignore it just like the sixaxis.
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#38 mems_1224
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No. Hopefully its like sixaxis and forced by devs early on but abandoned once they realize that it sucks
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#39 megaspiderweb09
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[QUOTE="hoola"]

No, and its a complete waste.  Developers won't be able to utilize it for anything more than a button or a flick for mini games.  pointless. 

PSP107

Pretty much this. Especially if MSoft doesnt have a touchpad which means 3rd party will ignore it just like the sixaxis.

Very valid point considering third party support has been on the increase this gen for both platforms, but where there is a difference is the Sixaxis wasnt a button, it was motion control whereas the touch pad can be clicked as a button. If you look at the map of the touchpad on the controller, it extends to the top of the controller almost seating close to the trigger buttons so there is quite a bit of room for extra button mapping if the developers do decide to utilize it, think of it as an answer to Keyboard. However how it is going to be used is what remains to be seen

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#40 k2theswiss
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No. Hopefully its like sixaxis and forced by devs early on but abandoned once they realize that it sucksmems_1224
i think i read back in late feb Sony isn't forcing devs to use it.
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#41 jun_aka_pekto
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I happen to like 3rd-party controllers for my PS3. Hopefully, that touchpad thing can be turned off and have button equivalents. The worst thing ever is having a game tied to the original controller in order to be playable.

A good example is KZ2. I hated the Six-axis sequences because I used alternative controls. Whenever a Six-axis sequence came up, I had to quickly switch to a DS3 and then back again. It's kind of tough to do when I'm under fire. At least GG had the courtesy to include an option to turn off Six-axis in KZ3.

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Tickling Sully's mustache and bum in uncharted 4, and not necessarily in that order. Jack-Burton

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#43 kweeni
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Could be useful for browsing menus, maybe puzzles, minigames(like say you're playing some stealth game and you have to crack open a safe or something which requires some minigame thing), games like LBP. Maybe stuff like opening doors in shooters or something(?).
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#44 megaspiderweb09
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Could be useful for browsing menus, maybe puzzles, minigames(like say you're playing some stealth game and you have to crack open a safe or something which requires some minigame thing), games like LBP. Maybe stuff like opening doors in shooters or something(?).kweeni

That kinda makes sense, i can imagine doing mundane task as cracking safe not being a direct button press but instead it becomes a mini game where u can fail. Perhaps lock picking doors as well and using that guys mobile fone in Watch Dogs

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]No. Hopefully its like sixaxis and forced by devs early on but abandoned once they realize that it sucksk2theswiss
i think i read back in late feb Sony isn't forcing devs to use it.

devs will still force it just because its there. just like sixaxis
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#46 -Patrick_92-
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I just had an idea, it's kinda gimmicky but whatever.

Someone said maybe it could be used to open doors, well what if you needed to scan your thumb to unlock a door.  You'd place your thumb on the touchpad to gain entry (kinda stole the idea from LBP Vita, but I think it would fit well in a stealth shooter or something along those lines).

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#47 cain006
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I can only see it really being useful for a web browser and similar stuff. Seems pointless for games.

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#48 Phazevariance
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It's there to inflate the price. But honestly, its just there to act as a mouse onscreen i bet.

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Seems pretty stupid to me.
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#50 gago-gago
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Nipple play, kinda like how the DS3 controlled the jiggle in Ninja Gaiden.