Can't you guys see that Sony would rather build up a huge 1st party selection?

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#1 angry_fork
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The reason Sony isn't securing 3rd party exclusives is because:

THEY DON'T NEED THEM!

Atleast that or they don't want them.

The best 3rd party games are on BOTH PS3 and 360. Instead of spending money to get games that were previously exclusive on another console, Sony is spending that money on in-house studios and 1st/2nd party games. This will help tremendously in the future.

Now you might say but what about now!?!? You're right. But Sony has always thought about the present AND the future. With all of Sony's in-house studios building up, in the future I see Sony becoming as 1st party dependent as Nintendo. While Microsoft will be scrambling to make games themselves, because all of their 3rd party games will also be on Sony's console.

Devil May Cry 4 - whoa omg whoa it's on 360 Sony is dead!, wait ...but it's also on PS3
Assassins Creed - omfg unique game on 360 too lulz Sony STOOPID ...um? it's also on PS3
Final Fantasy 13 - not only is this also on PS3, it's atleast halfway done on PS3 and 360 is getting a port.
Tekken 6 - also on PS3, which I have a feeling will sell more anyway due to the directional button fiasco, unless Microsoft decides to release a new controller.

People need to think before acting like Sony is out of the race. They may not come in 1st this gen, and we'll have to see what happens with 2nd place, but all I know is that the PS3 of 2009 and beyond, and PS4 will be a beast.

Can somebody explain how Microsoft getting more multi-platform games REALLY putting a nail in the coffin, when Sony is making more exclusives then Microsoft? It makes no sense to cast Sony away so quickly.

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I dunno why people are hyping up tekken 6 when there are clearly a lot better PS3 exclusives out there. Tekken is going to be 8.0 at best (seriously its my opinion though). There are better fighting games like SF and Soul Cal. Whatever, people have to understand that MS lost a lot of exclusives too, just not Sony. Truth is, both systems will be having good games coming out. Its just a matter of people stop being fanboys
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#3 clembo1990
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You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

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#4 angry_fork
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You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

clembo1990
lmao @ your sig.
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1. No matter how you want to explain it, losing long time PS brand exclusives (Tekken, the FF main series) is a big blow. Also losing the exclusivity of the biggest comercial impact this gen (GTA IV) is baaad.

2. Considering that the 360 has still an advantage of about 5 Millions and that the PS3 is outsold by the Wii, they need everytthing they can for enforcing their exclsuive lineup.

3. We haven't seen any of those "wonderful" first and second party games. "Just wait" is starting to feel old.

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You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

clembo1990

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

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seriously i just lol'd when i saw the news that tekken 6 is coming to 360. not a huge fan of tekken as i only played the 1st one briefly. I just hope at least half of those 14 unannouced titles for ps3 will be good news :)
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I dunno why people are hyping up tekken 6 when there are clearly a lot better PS3 exclusives out there. Tekken is going to be 8.0 at best (seriously its my opinion though). There are better fighting games like SF and Soul Cal. Whatever, people have to understand that MS lost a lot of exclusives too, just not Sony. Truth is, both systems will be having good games coming out. Its just a matter of people stop being fanboysu8muhrice
Ummm... the last few Tekken games have nearly all been AAA or high AA.....
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1. No matter how you want to explain it, losing long time PS brand exclusives (Tekken, the FF main series) is a big blow. Also losing the exclusivity of the biggest comercial impact this gen (GTA IV) is baaad.

2. Considering that the 360 has still an advantage of about 5 Millions and that the PS3 is outsold by the Wii, they need everytthing they can for enforcing their exclsuive lineup.

3. We haven't seen any of those "wonderful" first and second party games. "Just wait" is starting to feel old.

IronBass

Losing GTAIV was predicted by everyone. Its called good marketing by Rockstar---make it available for everyone. FF was a surprise, but if you just look what happen to GTA, you mgiht have seen that coming (even though I did not).

360 is losing exclusives too, just not PS3

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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"]I dunno why people are hyping up tekken 6 when there are clearly a lot better PS3 exclusives out there. Tekken is going to be 8.0 at best (seriously its my opinion though). There are better fighting games like SF and Soul Cal. Whatever, people have to understand that MS lost a lot of exclusives too, just not Sony. Truth is, both systems will be having good games coming out. Its just a matter of people stop being fanboysangelkimne
Ummm... the last few Tekken games have nearly all been AAA or high AA.....

and an 8.0 is a high AA is it not?

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#11 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

u8muhrice

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

1. No matter how you want to explain it, losing long time PS brand exclusives (Tekken, the FF main series) is a big blow. Also losing the exclusivity of the biggest comercial impact this gen (GTA IV) is baaad.

2. Considering that the 360 has still an advantage of about 5 Millions and that the PS3 is outsold by the Wii, they need everytthing they can for enforcing their exclsuive lineup.

3. We haven't seen any of those "wonderful" first and second party games. "Just wait" is starting to feel old.

u8muhrice

Losing GTAIV was predicted by everyone. Its called good marketing by Rockstar---make it available for everyone. FF was a surprise, but if you just look what happen to GTA, you mgiht have seen that coming (even though I did not).

360 is losing exclusives too, just not PS3

True, but not as much as the PS3, nor as important.

Besides, most exclusives the 360 lost go to PC, not to the PS3.

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#13 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"]I dunno why people are hyping up tekken 6 when there are clearly a lot better PS3 exclusives out there. Tekken is going to be 8.0 at best (seriously its my opinion though). There are better fighting games like SF and Soul Cal. Whatever, people have to understand that MS lost a lot of exclusives too, just not Sony. Truth is, both systems will be having good games coming out. Its just a matter of people stop being fanboysu8muhrice

Ummm... the last few Tekken games have nearly all been AAA or high AA.....

and an 8.0 is a high AA is it not?

No, low AA. Tekken 5 was 9.2, same as Dark Ressurection.
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#14 u8muhrice
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

clembo1990

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

That doesnt mean its the best system. Best is a subjective word. In my opinion, best means what games appeal more to me. PS3 has that for me. It is true that 360 has the best lineup of games (but it does not mean it has the best games lineup).

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#15 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

clembo1990

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

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#16 u8muhrice
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"]I dunno why people are hyping up tekken 6 when there are clearly a lot better PS3 exclusives out there. Tekken is going to be 8.0 at best (seriously its my opinion though). There are better fighting games like SF and Soul Cal. Whatever, people have to understand that MS lost a lot of exclusives too, just not Sony. Truth is, both systems will be having good games coming out. Its just a matter of people stop being fanboysangelkimne

Ummm... the last few Tekken games have nearly all been AAA or high AA.....

and an 8.0 is a high AA is it not?

No, low AA. Tekken 5 was 9.2, same as Dark Ressurection.

Low AA? That makes no sense. So a game that is ranked "Good" is a low AA?

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#17 clembo1990
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[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

u8muhrice

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

That doesnt mean its the best system. Best is a subjective word. In my opinion, best means what games appeal more to me. PS3 has that for me. It is true that 360 has the best lineup of games (but it does not mean it has the best games lineup).

don't fall back on opinion, we had something going there. Every entity in the universe is subjective so let's just rely on shared knowledge, ie: more is better for human beings.
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#18 angelkimne
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Low AA? That makes no sense. So a game that is ranked "Good" is a low AA?

u8muhrice
High AA is 8.5 to 8.9, low AA is 8.0 to 8.4.
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#19 fjburgos
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Is not like the 360 isn't losing nothing the 360 is losing his 3 party exclusives too. Only first party remains. They only mention sony ones because they are more famous, and the 360 one are new ip's or not so famous ones. But 360 lose Oblivion, Bioshock, Overlord,Eternal Sonata, Lost Planet a few not so good ones and others.
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#20 MerisYaki
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360 has both.

And thislooks like a copy and paste from the final fantasy 13 fiasco.
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#21 u8muhrice
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"]

Low AA? That makes no sense. So a game that is ranked "Good" is a low AA?

angelkimne

High AA is 8.5 to 8.9, low AA is 8.0 to 8.4.

What rule is that? It makes no sense for GS to say a game is "Good" and rank it a low AA.. I just think you have high standards. Just think about it, how many 8.0 Games have you played that is really fun?

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[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

angry_fork

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

I guess 360/PC only games don't exist then. :|

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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"]

Low AA? That makes no sense. So a game that is ranked "Good" is a low AA?

u8muhrice

High AA is 8.5 to 8.9, low AA is 8.0 to 8.4.

What rule is that? It makes no sense for GS to say a game is "Good" and rank it a low AA.. I just think you have high standards. Just think about it, how many 8.0 Games have you played that is really fun?

What?

Low AA doesn't mean it's a bad game, it just means it was rated in the low eights.....

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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="clembo1990"]

You should own these platforms in order to be called a gamer imo:

Gaming PC, 360, PS3, Wii.

They're all good, but COME ON its obvious which are best.

Baird-06

seriously, its not obvious which is best. Seriously, I have a gaming PC, PS3, and Wii and I do not plan on buying a 360 any time soon. Is that a bad decision? No, I just do not prefer MS games. (i am not saying MS games are bad). I think Halo is complete garbage (My opinion), however, games like Gears and Mass Effect (which I own for the PC) are amazing. With that said, its not obvious which system is the best, its a matter of preference

PC is best purely because its open, more choice is better if you know what you are doing.

So what Halo doesn't appeal to evryone but the people who already own it :P But its kind of clear 360 secure the most multiplats on consoles and hence( again) more choice = better. And so on...

Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

I guess 360/PC only games don't exist then. :|

I'm not one of those lame people who consider PC-360 multi-plat, they're Microsoft exclusive to me.

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angry_fork

:| So MS have control over every PC game to come to a casual market like 360?

Why no Company of Heroes 360 then? Why no Crysis 360?

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#26 u8muhrice
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[QUOTE="u8muhrice"][QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="u8muhrice"]

Low AA? That makes no sense. So a game that is ranked "Good" is a low AA?

angelkimne

High AA is 8.5 to 8.9, low AA is 8.0 to 8.4.

What rule is that? It makes no sense for GS to say a game is "Good" and rank it a low AA.. I just think you have high standards. Just think about it, how many 8.0 Games have you played that is really fun?

What?

Low AA doesn't mean it's a bad game, it just means it was rated in the low eights.....

My mistake. For some reason, I thought that 7.0+ was an AA

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I think Sony getting rid of the deals they had with 3rd party developers is specifically because of the what MS is doing. MS is currently spending money to acquire those third party games from those third party developers in order to dig into the market that the Ps2 had and the Wii now has. Sonys reaction to this is to let those third party develpeprs go, let MS spend the money, they will continue to work on their first party and make their console more appealing that way. They still have the games MS is taking but they also have their increible first party. Taking a hint from Nintendo's book.

I'm surprised that, since the exclusive deals for Sony are done for the most part cows aren't coming in here and saying things like "Yeah we're done with those games. We're moving in. How do you like our scraps?" But I guess I have to wait for someone like Fart_Storm to come in. *sigh*

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Sony's first party does look pretty solid but I can't really get into their games.
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#29 BumFluff122
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What rule is that? It makes no sense for GS to say a game is "Good" and rank it a low AA.. I just think you have high standards. Just think about it, how many 8.0 Games have you played that is really fun?

u8muhrice
I've played many 8.0 games that are fun. Heck I've even played quite a few 6.0 games that are fun. It's all based on opinion. Only looking at those games that score 9.0 or above will severly limit your enjoyment.
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]clembo1990

:| So MS have control over every PC game to come to a casual market like 360?

Why no Company of Heroes 360 then? Why no Crysis 360?

Are you completely lost? Company of Heroes is strategy, which is the bread and butter of PC games, RTS don't sell well on consoles and Crysis can't be done on 360.

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So far the best PS3 game is third party, Konami, MGS4. :|

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#32 angry_fork
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So far the best PS3 game is third party, Konami, MGS4. :|

ReverseCycology

1. It's also not the only good game on PS3, the rest of the games being 1st/2nd party, MGS4 is the only 3rd party exclusive left that every Lemming seems to bash ...but want at the same time.

2. Did you read where I said future, specifically PS3 in 2009.

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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

So far the best PS3 game is third party, Konami, MGS4. :|

angry_fork

1. It's also not the only good game on PS3, the rest of the games being 1st/2nd party, MGS4 is the only 3rd party exclusive left that every Lemming seems to bash ...but want at the same time.

2. Did you read where I said future, specifically PS3 in 2009.

1. I didn't say its the only GOOD game the PS3 has, I said its the BEST game on the PS3.

2. So you and other cows just love waiting for these first party games right. If Sony just focus on their first party games, then you better expect these first party games to never come out on time because they'll be undermanned to tackle all these games. I mean, just look at Killzone 2 and how long its taken to come out and it's a first party game.

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#34 krp008
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Sony is losing exclusives left and right to Microsoft
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don't defend them. This gen they made bluray their priority not games. They, as you can see, don't care if their games go multi or exclusive to m$; that along should give you the sign that they don't really care for their consumers. But you know I still like theit brand regardless because of nostalgia I guess just like I like like nintendo for their history. So yeah
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#36 nervmeister
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The reason Sony isn't securing 3rd party exclusives is because:

THEY DON'T NEED THEM!

Atleast that or they don't want them.

The best 3rd party games are on BOTH PS3 and 360. Instead of spending money to get games that were previously exclusive on another console, Sony is spending that money on in-house studios and 1st/2nd party games. This will help tremendously in the future.

Now you might say but what about now!?!? You're right. But Sony has always thought about the present AND the future. With all of Sony's in-house studios building up, in the future I see Sony becoming as 1st party dependent as Nintendo. While Microsoft will be scrambling to make games themselves, because all of their 3rd party games will also be on Sony's console.

Devil May Cry 4 - whoa omg whoa it's on 360 Sony is dead!, wait ...but it's also on PS3
Assassins Creed - omfg unique game on 360 too lulz Sony STOOPID ...um? it's also on PS3
Final Fantasy 13 - not only is this also on PS3, it's atleast halfway done on PS3 and 360 is getting a port.
Tekken 6 - also on PS3, which I have a feeling will sell more anyway due to the directional button fiasco, unless Microsoft decides to release a new controller.

People need to think before acting like Sony is out of the race. They may not come in 1st this gen, and we'll have to see what happens with 2nd place, but all I know is that the PS3 of 2009 and beyond, and PS4 will be a beast.

Can somebody explain how Microsoft getting more multi-platform games REALLY putting a nail in the coffin, when Sony is making more exclusives then Microsoft? It makes no sense to cast Sony away so quickly.

angry_fork

Even though this thread screams out damage control, you do make somewhat of a point. The PS3's first-party lineup does seem to be picking up the slack for all the third-party multiplats.

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#37 GreyFoXX4
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Isn't that like 2 shows now (E3 and now tgs) that the only thing MS had to really announce was getting a ps3 game lol. And lemmings running around worrying about Sony lol? I think lemmings need to take a hard look at your investment in the 360 and start getting a little worried about the direction MS is going in actually and be worried.

I think the IGN top 10 most anticipated games for TGS 7 of which were ps3/psp and 3 were multiplates that will be on ps3/360. And this is only going on the ps3's 2nd year. Heck already there is some exclusives named yesterday that has me wanting to see more of and the show hasn't even really started for Sony yet lol.

PS3 owners can relax and we know we can cause Sony is letting go of the past and moving to the present and future and that is with new ip exclusives to build for future years of gaming for Sony fans.

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#38 Blackbond
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The reason Sony isn't securing 3rd party exclusives is because:

THEY DON'T NEED THEM!

Atleast that or they don't want them.

The best 3rd party games are on BOTH PS3 and 360. Instead of spending money to get games that were previously exclusive on another console, Sony is spending that money on in-house studios and 1st/2nd party games. This will help tremendously in the future.

angry_fork

Um yes they do need them. If every game is on every system then the 360 is easily going to be the better choice as it has better online and it is a cheaper buy to game.

You forget that when it comes to multiplatform games that the PS3 doesn't get the 360/PC multiplat games. All those games that are PC/360. The PS3 doesn't get. Making the 360 a better multiplatform machine.

I have no problem with Sony concentrating their efforts on 1st/2nd party games. But while 3rd Parties have been delivering all gen and Sony hasn't been better then 3rd parties as a whole. You need 3rd Party exclusives. Sony is not good enough to carry weight like Nintendo did with the N64. Granted they aren't losing the games completely which is good. Games that were synamous with the PS brand are now on Xbox which is a little wierd.

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#39 Blackbond
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Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

angry_fork

So PS3 gets all those 360 exclusives lost to PC? No it doesn't. PC/360 games are not on PS3.

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#40 navyguy21
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*sigh*

what alot of Sony fanboys fail to realize is that after you buy the system, you no longer matter as much to them, so yes you do get to play the exclusives that sony "lost". The real test is the new, undecided consumer who is looking at what system to buy. And with the $199 price tag, and the ability to play former PS only games, then thats a sale that sony loses and MS gains, and thats where it hurts sony, noth the sale of the game, or what platform its on. And alot of you guys are touting the first party games, and i agree with you, but what you have to take into consideration is the dev time for those games. without 3rd parties, what is going to fill the gap between first party games? better yet, name a system that won a gen without 3rd party support and exclusives?? take your time, ill wait.................

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#41 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

The reason Sony isn't securing 3rd party exclusives is because:

THEY DON'T NEED THEM!

Atleast that or they don't want them.

The best 3rd party games are on BOTH PS3 and 360. Instead of spending money to get games that were previously exclusive on another console, Sony is spending that money on in-house studios and 1st/2nd party games. This will help tremendously in the future.

Blackbond

Um yes they do need them. If every game is on every system then the 360 is easily going to be the better choice as it has better online and it is a cheaper buy to game.

You forget that when it comes to multiplatform games that the PS3 doesn't get the 360/PC multiplat games. All those games that are PC/360. The PS3 doesn't get. Making the 360 a better multiplatform machine. I think you need to chk most releases lately the libraries are almost identical for the past year or so including most pc ports to both consoles, and you forget that the 360 nor pc gets to play most of ps3's exclusives and those exclusives are growing by the day :).

I have no problem with Sony concentrating their efforts on 1st/2nd party games. But while 3rd Parties have been delivering all gen and Sony hasn't been better then 3rd parties as a whole. You need 3rd Party exclusives. Sony is not good enough to carry weight like Nintendo did with the N64. Granted they aren't losing the games completely which is good. Games that were synamous with the PS brand are now on Xbox which is a little wierd.

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#42 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

Blackbond

So PS3 gets all those 360 exclusives lost to PC? No it doesn't. PC/360 games are not on PS3.

Ah, so you're looking into GhostMLD's "Not-PS3 games" philosophy. Interesting.
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Exactly my thoughts. Well said.
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Isn't that like 2 shows now (E3 and now tgs) that the only thing MS had to really announce was getting a ps3 game lol. And lemmings running around worrying about Sony lol? I think lemmings need to take a hard look at your investment in the 360 and start getting a little worried about the direction MS is going in actually and be worried.

Having great exclusives (Gears 2, Fable II, Tales of Vesperia, Ninja Gaiden 2, etc)? Having great multiplats that other consoles don't get (Mass Effect, Gears 1, The Orange Box)? Having an excellent Xbox Live Arcade (Braid, Geometry Wars 2, Castlke Crashers)? Getting exclsuive DLC for games such as GTAIV and FAllout 3? Getting great multiplats, known for being PS brand exclusives (DMC, FF, Tekken)?

Yeah, we should be REALLY worried... :roll:

I think the IGN top 10 most anticipated games for TGS 7 of which were ps3/psp and 3 were multiplates that will be on ps3/360. And this is only going on the ps3's 2nd year. Heck already there is some exclusives named yesterday that has me wanting to see more of and the show hasn't even really started for Sony yet lol.

If IGN say it, then is a fact that the pS3 wins... :roll:

PS3 owners can relax and we know we can cause Sony is letting go of the past and moving to the present and future and that is with new ip exclusives to build for future years of gaming for Sony fans.

"Just wait"? ....

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*sigh*

what alot of Sony fanboys fail to realize is that after you buy the system, you no longer matter as much to them, so yes you do get to play the exclusives that sony "lost". The real test is the new, undecided consumer who is looking at what system to buy. And with the $199 price tag, and the ability to play former PS only games, then thats a sale that sony loses and MS gains, and thats where it hurts sony, noth the sale of the game, or what platform its on. And alot of you guys are touting the first party games, and i agree with you, but what you have to take into consideration is the dev time for those games. without 3rd parties, what is going to fill the gap between first party games? better yet, name a system that won a gen without 3rd party support and exclusives?? take your time, ill wait.................

navyguy21

Maybe multiplates will fill the time between exclusives, the real question is what is going to fill the gaps between multiplates for the 360?

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#46 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

*sigh*

what alot of Sony fanboys fail to realize is that after you buy the system, you no longer matter as much to them, so yes you do get to play the exclusives that sony "lost". The real test is the new, undecided consumer who is looking at what system to buy. And with the $199 price tag, and the ability to play former PS only games, then thats a sale that sony loses and MS gains, and thats where it hurts sony, noth the sale of the game, or what platform its on. And alot of you guys are touting the first party games, and i agree with you, but what you have to take into consideration is the dev time for those games. without 3rd parties, what is going to fill the gap between first party games? better yet, name a system that won a gen without 3rd party support and exclusives?? take your time, ill wait.................

GreyFoXX4

Maybe multiplates will fill the time between exclusives, the real question is what is going to fill the gaps between multiplates for the 360?

My point was, if they are MULTIPLAT, then why buy a $400 machine when you get the same games on a $200 machine that has a bigger library in quality and quantity? and i dont wanna hear the "360 games going to PC" argument because lets be honest here, casual gamers (the majority) dont game on PC's, thus the decision is going to be 360 or PS3

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#47 GreyFoXX4
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GreyFoXX4 wrote:

Isn't that like 2 shows now (E3 and now tgs) that the only thing MS had to really announce was getting a ps3 game lol. And lemmings running around worrying about Sony lol? I think lemmings need to take a hard look at your investment in the 360 and start getting a little worried about the direction MS is going in actually and be worried.

Having great exclusives (Gears 2, Fable II, Tales of Vesperia, Ninja Gaiden 2, etc)? Having great multiplats that other consoles don't get (Mass Effect, Gears 1, The Orange Box)? Having an excellent Xbox Live Arcade (Braid, Geometry Wars 2, Castlke Crashers)? Getting exclsuive DLC for games such as GTAIV and FAllout 3? Getting great multiplats, known for being PS brand exclusives (DMC, FF, Tekken)? Ninja Gaiden came to ps3 so prolly 2 will aswell, The orange Box, really lol? DLC is really nothing special at all, think most agree on this already, its just milking of a game that you already beat and prolly have moved on to newer games anyway. Mass Effect2 really has a good chance of going multiplate aswell. And noticed you didn't mention Bioshock.

Yeah, we should be REALLY worried...

I think the IGN top 10 most anticipated games for TGS 7 of which were ps3/psp and 3 were multiplates that will be on ps3/360. And this is only going on the ps3's 2nd year. Heck already there is some exclusives named yesterday that has me wanting to see more of and the show hasn't even really started for Sony yet lol.

If IGN say it, then is a fact that the pS3 wins...

PS3 owners can relax and we know we can cause Sony is letting go of the past and moving to the present and future and that is with new ip exclusives to build for future years of gaming for Sony fans.

"Just wait"? ....

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#48 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="angry_fork"]

Um? If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well. That's why they're named multi-plats...

nervmeister

So PS3 gets all those 360 exclusives lost to PC? No it doesn't. PC/360 games are not on PS3.

Ah, so you're looking into GhostMLD's "Not-PS3 games" philosophy. Interesting.

Its not Ghost Philosphey at all its common sense and the fact that he is 100% wrong. When he states, "If 360 has the most multi-plats then Sony does as well." He is wrong. PS3 doesn't have Gears of War, Mass Effect, amongst others.

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#49 GreyFoXX4
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[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]

*sigh*

what alot of Sony fanboys fail to realize is that after you buy the system, you no longer matter as much to them, so yes you do get to play the exclusives that sony "lost". The real test is the new, undecided consumer who is looking at what system to buy. And with the $199 price tag, and the ability to play former PS only games, then thats a sale that sony loses and MS gains, and thats where it hurts sony, noth the sale of the game, or what platform its on. And alot of you guys are touting the first party games, and i agree with you, but what you have to take into consideration is the dev time for those games. without 3rd parties, what is going to fill the gap between first party games? better yet, name a system that won a gen without 3rd party support and exclusives?? take your time, ill wait.................

navyguy21

Maybe multiplates will fill the time between exclusives, the real question is what is going to fill the gaps between multiplates for the 360?

My point was, if they are MULTIPLAT, then why buy a $400 machine when you get the same games on a $200 machine that has a bigger library in quality and quantity? and i dont wanna hear the "360 games going to PC" argument because lets be honest here, casual gamers (the majority) dont game on PC's, thus the decision is going to be 360 or PS3

Your MISSING the point though, and that is Sony has the ability to actually produce exclusives in a much larger scale that MS can't. So yes lemmings are all caught up on multiplates, while us ps3 owners know and acknowledge that hey we get multiplates aswell but also a huge library of present and future NEW IP EXCLUSIVES.

Think lemmings tend to forget that theres a reason why a multiplate is called a mulitplate.

So for a $400 system you get actually new games to play and not living in the past and glory of the ps2 era on a $300 console (I'll always exclude the core 360 sorry but I will).

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Ninja Gaiden came to ps3 so prolly 2 will aswell (link?) , The orange Box, really lol? (YEs, really. According to Gamerankings is one of the 10 best games ever. So yes, really.) DLC is really nothing special at all, think most agree on this already, its just milking of a game that you already beat and prolly have moved on to newer games anyway.Yeah, opinions are fun, aren't it? Mass Effect2 really has a good chance of going multiplate aswell (Nope. There a bigger chance that MS had a contract for publishing it, too. Maximal it would go to PC). And noticed you didn't mention Bioshock. (A game that 360 owners have been playing for more than a year, and whose ported PS3 version has downgraded graphics?)

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