Capcom: DMC4's "awesome graphics and control" not possible on Wii

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#1 fuzzysquash
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Yikes. Don't shoot the messenger.

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#2 mingo123
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awwww capcom broke wii owners heart
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#3 alia999
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whoever even hinted the graphics on the wii could be DMC4 standard? as for the control...
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What's to argue... It's not.
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#5 Anti-Gamer
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Hiroyuki Kobayashi probably realize that wii is a gimmick.
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#7 Kritical_Strike
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Is this news to anyone?

Although I'm sure DMC4's controls could somehow be done with the wiimote, then again maybe not.

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#8 Kingpin0114
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whoever even hinted the graphics on the wii could be DMC4 standard? as for the control...alia999

Exactly. Everyone already knew this. The controls would have been terrible even if a gamecube controller could be used imo.

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#9 Eponique
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Looks like he's still soar after DMC4 failed to take #1 spot in Japan, thanks to Brawl. Don't worry, maybe next time.

[spoiler] Don't kill me [/spoiler]

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#10 Always-Honest
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as far as graphics go: DUH...

as far as controls go: DMC4 has the most ancient controls and camera possible. very last gen. a true turn of

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Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

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Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

The_Crucible

You're either drunk or ignorant. It would be a pain in the ass to control DMC4 with the wiimote, the movements are too quick and precise. I smell n00b

And honestly it's characters/enemies are awesome, probably the best enemy design I've ever seen in this genre.(better than GoW, NG and HS).

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#13 Jynxzor
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The Wiimote seems like a poor controler for anything but wagling, lots of devs are even trying to steer away from using the remote in there games *SSBB*.

I don't mind the Wiimote myself but it just feels limited.

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#14 prodiqy32
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it really must be a sad time to be a sheep. all they have to fall back on this year is brawl. every thread that talks about PS3 and 360 has brawl in there from sheep. worst lineup of games since the pippen ....
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

Kritical_Strike

You're either drunk or ignorant. It would be a pain in the ass to control DMC4 with the wiimote, the movements are too quick and precise. I smell n00b

And honestly it's characters/enemies are awesome, probably the best enemy design I've ever seen in this genre.(better than GoW, NG and HS).

its doubtful whether waggle would have to be used at all. There are plenty of buttons on the wii remote.

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#16 Forza_2
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as far as graphics go: DUH...

as far as controls go: DMC4 has the most ancient controls and camera possible. very last gen. a true turn of

Always-Honest
DMC4 uses a lot of buttons. It really can't be played with the default Wii controller, nor the GC one. The classic would be better, but still awkward.
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Lol, as if DMC4 had awesome controls, great combat though.
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#18 blackice1983
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the wii-mote sucks so bad. i hate when i have to repeat a motion just because it didnt read it correctly the first time
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it really must be a sad time to be a sheep. all they have to fall back on this year is brawl. every thread that talks about PS3 and 360 has brawl in there from sheep. worst lineup of games since the pippen ....prodiqy32

nah, they have much more, they are just games you don't have the open mind to play for. go play your shiny shooter/ fighter.

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#20 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

as far as graphics go: DUH...

as far as controls go: DMC4 has the most ancient controls and camera possible. very last gen. a true turn of

Forza_2

DMC4 uses a lot of buttons. It really can't be played with the default Wii controller, nor the GC one. The classic would be better, but still awkward.

that's right. the controls are ancient and awkward. back in the days when more buttons equaled kick *ss....

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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]it really must be a sad time to be a sheep. all they have to fall back on this year is brawl. every thread that talks about PS3 and 360 has brawl in there from sheep. worst lineup of games since the pippen ....Always-Honest

nah, they have much more, they are just games you don't have the open mind to play for. go play your shiny shooter/ fighter.

I think if sheep had more open minds they would see that there's a lot more variety on the other platforms than Shooter/fighters...

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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

Kritical_Strike

You're either drunk or ignorant. It would be a pain in the ass to control DMC4 with the wiimote, the movements are too quick and precise. I smell n00b

And honestly it's characters/enemies are awesome, probably the best enemy design I've ever seen in this genre.(better than GoW, NG and HS).


a game like NMH shows that those sorts of action games arent totally impossible or would play like crap on the Wii. Its up to the developer, if they over use waggle, yes, its going to be crap.
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#23 The_Crucible
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

Kritical_Strike

You're either drunk or ignorant. It would be a pain in the ass to control DMC4 with the wiimote, the movements are too quick and precise. I smell n00b

And honestly it's characters/enemies are awesome, probably the best enemy design I've ever seen in this genre.(better than GoW, NG and HS).

No, you're smelling your upper lip. I played the game, dude. No noob here.

Precise controls, :lol:

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#24 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]it really must be a sad time to be a sheep. all they have to fall back on this year is brawl. every thread that talks about PS3 and 360 has brawl in there from sheep. worst lineup of games since the pippen ....OhSnapitz

nah, they have much more, they are just games you don't have the open mind to play for. go play your shiny shooter/ fighter.

I think if sheep had more open minds they would see that there's a lot more variety on the other platforms than Shooter/fighters...

well, i know,and i have all three and i'll play any game that has interesting gameplay. but the peoiple that critisize the wii aqre usually xenophobic teenagers that just play shooters and fighters.

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#25 Gamingcucumber
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This makes anyone with a non ignorant brain think twice. I mean...why does everyone take everyones word for everything!?

If they can make a friggin Mario game! Which is known for their insanely tight controls work amazing then why couldn't a DMC game work just as well if not better considering the fact that they are ancient. Simpel hack and slash controls is not that hard to make.

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#26 Darth_DuMas
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I don't know where this waggle nonsense comes from. Waggle is just one of many possible movements.

Its capable of smooth motion. But somehow the teh shake for nimpo power, teh six degrees of freedom is ok, move your PS3 controller like a two handed paper aeroplane. :roll:

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#27 m_machine024
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Like people didn't know already... that thread wasn't needed.
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#28 JAB991
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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

Don't worry sheep, you're not missing much. Walk into a room, door on the other side gets blocked all of a sudden, bad guys appear (some of the worst characters I've seen in a game), beat up the bad guys, door gets unblocked, walk into another room, rinse and repeat.

This linear turd makes a very linear game like Uncharted look sandbox.

And believe me, the controls are nothing special. Could be done on the Wii, no doubt.

I will give the game some credit for graphics. it does look nice.

Haziqonfire

You're either drunk or ignorant. It would be a pain in the ass to control DMC4 with the wiimote, the movements are too quick and precise. I smell n00b

And honestly it's characters/enemies are awesome, probably the best enemy design I've ever seen in this genre.(better than GoW, NG and HS).


a game like NMH shows that those sorts of action games arent totally impossible or would play like crap on the Wii. Its up to the developer, if they over use waggle, yes, its going to be crap.

No More Heroe's controls were great and the A-button was attack. Whoever says the wii remote be applied to a good action game is simply ignorant.

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#29 locopatho
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360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.
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#30 JAB991
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360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.locopatho

But the second control stick could be remapped to the Wii's IR.

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#31 Zenfoldor
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awwww capcom broke wii owners heartmingo123

Wow, at least your easy to spot, with that sig, Wii-hater.

Truth is, as Wii owner, just like 360 and PS3 owners, I've had my heart broken many times.

Unfortunately, this is not one of them. Get back to me when the game your laughing about doesn't suck.

It's no secret the Wii has no HD for a 40 minute install, nor does it have the ability to render the textures and keep the framerate up. If capcom wanted to port it, they could, but it would be tanamount to creating a new game. Wii owners aren't stupid, Tupac. We understand what quotes mean, and no, we're not gonna cry because you get DMC 4 and we don't. We already got way better games from capcom and Nintendo on our system in 08. Enjoy burnout and dmc 4 though. Good luck in sales. Buy SSB:B I think it needs your support.

/bye

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#32 blackice1983
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]awwww capcom broke wii owners heartZenfoldor

Wow, at least your easy to spot, with that sig, Wii-hater.

Truth is, as Wii owner, just like 360 and PS3 owners, I've had my heart broken many times.

Unfortunately, this is not one of them. Get back to me when the game your laughing about doesn't suck.

It's no secret the Wii has no HD for a 40 minute install, nor does it have the ability to render the textures and keep the framerate up. If capcom wanted to port it, they could, but it would be tanamount to creating a new game. Wii owners aren't stupid, Tupac. We understand what quotes mean, and no, we're not gonna cry because you get DMC 4 and we don't. We already got way better games from capcom and Nintendo on our system in 08. Enjoy burnout and dmc 4 though. Good luck in sales. Buy SSB:B I think it needs your support.

/bye

sheep love live in the past. oh and thats the ps3 version of dmc4. keep buying the shovelware to support the big budget games for 360 and ps3 little sheep

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#33 Erkidu
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awwww capcom broke wii owners heartmingo123
Except, no Wii-owners actually thought that DMC4 would make it to the Wii. :| You fail harder than the lyrics in your signature.
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#34 blahzor
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As far as i'm concerned, No More Heroes proves to me that the wii controller is superior to traditional for these type of button mashing kind of games.

I've only played the demo of DMC4 so far, but based on it i was not impressed. Especially after NMHs. Though, i'll have further comments in the near future, as i play to pick up DMC4 none the less.

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#35 m_machine024
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Z&W "awesome puzzles and controls" not possible on PS3/360

See what I did there? Exactly.

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#36 JAB991
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Z&W "awesome puzzles and controls" not possible on PS3/360

See what I did there? Exactly.

m_machine024

I see what you did thar :)

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#37 Blackbond
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I remember when Capcom said DMC4 is only possible on PS3 :lol:

But yeah its definately not possible on Wii.

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#38 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.JAB991

But the second control stick could be remapped to the Wii's IR.

For a shooter that works. Doesn't really work if it's used to dodge or move camera.

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#39 blahzor
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[QUOTE="JAB991"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.locopatho

But the second control stick could be remapped to the Wii's IR.

For a shooter that works. Doesn't really work if it's used to dodge or move camera.

Dpad works fine for camera movement, at least it did in no more heroes.

As good as a second analog stick? No.. but, at least in NMHs it was not bad at all.

As for dodging, same thing. No more heroes had you press the dpad in a direction, while z-targeting, to dodge. Again, it worked perfectly.

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#40 Zenfoldor
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sheep love live in the past. oh and thats the ps3 version of dmc4. keep buying the shovelware to support the big budget games for 360 and ps3 little sheep

blackice1983

Oh NO! I am angry and am going to cry!

Well, no. I own all 3 consoles sir. The Wii is just my favorite, and yes, DMC4 ruins the legacy. I never understood the tradeoff. If you don't have a Wii, it's like your playing the greatest games from all the developers in the world, except the best one. That would be provable here:

www.gamerankings.com

Why would anyone not own a Wii? Talk about living in the past.
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#41 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="JAB991"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.blahzor

But the second control stick could be remapped to the Wii's IR.

For a shooter that works. Doesn't really work if it's used to dodge or move camera.

Dpad works fine for camera movement, at least it did in no more heroes.

As good as a second analog stick? No.. but, at least in NMHs it was not bad at all.

As for dodging, same thing. No more heroes had you press the dpad in a direction, while z-targeting, to dodge. Again, it worked perfectly.

Fair enough. NMH isn't out yet here, so I'll take your word for it.

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#42 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Yeah, and we believed you when it was only possible on the PS3. Wait, no we didn't.

...

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*shoots messenger*

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#43 blahzor
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[QUOTE="blahzor"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="JAB991"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]360 has better graphics than Wii. Wii has only one control stick. So ya it's pretty obvious.locopatho

But the second control stick could be remapped to the Wii's IR.

For a shooter that works. Doesn't really work if it's used to dodge or move camera.

Dpad works fine for camera movement, at least it did in no more heroes.

As good as a second analog stick? No.. but, at least in NMHs it was not bad at all.

As for dodging, same thing. No more heroes had you press the dpad in a direction, while z-targeting, to dodge. Again, it worked perfectly.

Fair enough. NMH isn't out yet here, so I'll take your word for it.


I had no probelm controlling it, and most reviews praised the crap out of the combat(it relaly is so much fun!).
Its too bad its been delayed again, but i do highly recommend it when you can get it.

As for the topic, i'm not sure how many people realize that just because a producer doesn't see a viable way to port a game doesnt' mean it doesn't exist.. geeze.

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#44 Hockey_Slayer
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I thought it was already pretty damn obvious that the wii wasn't going to get this.
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no surprise here. nice sig TC
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#46 RazMaTaz-1
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It would amazingly difficult to make it on the wii, expecially the controls. How would you use Gilgamesh or Lucifier with the wiimote? Graphically, its obvious it would never be done on the Wii. Would be kinda cool if they remade DMC1 for Wii however as their arent much moves.
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oops, not you sig, sorry
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#48 peterom11
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I don't care, I'm not interested in mediocre action games.
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#49 mistervengeance
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its doubtful whether waggle would have to be used at all. There are plenty of buttons on the wii remote.

samusarmada

it would have to be used. there's not that many buttons on the wiimote that can be reached easily.

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#50 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Member since 2007 • 8992 Posts
And why do they need to state the obvious :?