Carmack says PS3s more powerful

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#1 GoodContributor
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this is the guy who made doom 3.  but he also says only few developers will be up to "sweating the blood" for using ps3 to "Da maX!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8
interesting interview.  the guy is a nerd ;)


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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game.
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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. apolloluke


Carmack is a legend among programmers.  He doesn't design games, he makes their 3D engines.  And last I checked, Doom 3 won the GS award for best technical graphics.   :|
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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. apolloluke
Doom 3 was awesome, but ultimately over-hyped.
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#6 abusedbunny
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doom 3 did suck
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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. apolloluke
He created the engine, and invented 3D space by himself.
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doom 3 did suckabusedbunny
no it didn't, i bet you didn't even play it, your just jumping on the doom 3 sucked bandwagon.
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[QUOTE="apolloluke"]Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. baddog121390
He created the engine, and invented 3D space by himself.

Yeah, Carmack is a genious.
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[QUOTE="abusedbunny"]doom 3 did suckHammerofjustice
no it didn't, i bet you didn't even play it, your just jumping on the doom 3 sucked bandwagon.

Everbody, attack the cows weak spot for massive damage! Btw, Doom 3 was pretty ordinary ok. And yes I have played it, I actually own it. Happy?
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[QUOTE="abusedbunny"]doom 3 did suckHammerofjustice
no it didn't, i bet you didn't even play it, your just jumping on the doom 3 sucked bandwagon.

why assume that i didnt play it? i have, pc and xbox, and i hated the weapons.

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#12 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. apolloluke
haha LAWL
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and I believe him too, not just because he is like a god among gaming but because the PS3 like, just does, very vauge but yea
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this is the guy who made doom 3.  but he also says only few developers will be up to "sweating the blood" for using ps3 to "Da maX!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8
interesting interview.  the guy is a nerd ;)


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Everyone in the know, knows that the PS3 is the most powerful console on the market.
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#15 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="abusedbunny"]doom 3 did suckabusedbunny

no it didn't, i bet you didn't even play it, your just jumping on the doom 3 sucked bandwagon.

why assume that i didnt play it? i have, pc and xbox, and i hated the weapons.

I bought it, it was okay, it was all the same though, run and gun. it looked amazing for its time. but it got old really fast.
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#16 audioaxes
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wow omg...
he does not say the PS3 is more powerful he says the ps3 on paper has more "theoretical" power but then questions how it wont be transfered into better games
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#17 Fumpa
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doom 3 did suckabusedbunny
no it didn't. doom 3 is a great game.
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#18 Galantina
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ok we've gone from ps3 being more powerful to everyone arguing about doom 3? cant you people just accept that some people like certain games that others dont?
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#19 Caviglia
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Does it matter? The PS3 and 360 look near identical, such petty bickering does not change that fact.
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#20 cakeorrdeath
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If you are going to listen to anybody about programming you should listen to Carmack.
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#21 joeychew
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This guy seem to know wat he is talking...
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#22 cakeorrdeath
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I think this means that we will eventually see Exclusive PS3 games that look better than anything the 360 can do but multiplatform games will continue to look better on 360.

We might even see more occurances of multiplatform games comming out later on PS3 because it takes longer to program for.
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#23 blackace
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this is the guy who made doom 3.  but he also says only few developers will be up to "sweating the blood" for using ps3 to "Da maX!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8
interesting interview.  the guy is a nerd ;)


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Naughty Dog said the same thing. I believe them both. That's the main problem with the PS3. Even though it's a very powerful system. Most developers will never be able to tap the full potential by the end of it's lifecycle. Many won't even try because it too complicated and takes too much time and effort.

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#24 blackace
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I think this means that we will eventually see Exclusive PS3 games that look better than anything the 360 can do but multiplatform games will continue to look better on 360.

We might even see more occurances of multiplatform games comming out later on PS3 because it takes longer to program for.
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What it means is it will take developers longer to make an Exclusive that equals or looks better then some Xbox 360 titles. People keep forgetting that full power of the XBox 360 hasn't been tapped yet either. Gears of Wars looked great, but there will be better looking games then that.

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#25 elpoep
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That's awesome, the PS3 is like Doom3.  All power and no brains. 

 You loook at it and your like,"WOW!"-- teh roxxorz!!11!!!

Then you play it and you're like," ehh...this sucks.  I blew my money.".
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#26 2FacedJanus
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Yes theoretical power. It's the same as oil reserves. There is plenty of oil to be found in the world really. But alot of it just requires too much effort to get it out and make it worthwhile. I see the PS3's power as one of these oil reserves, technologically feasible, but economically not worthwhile. The PS3 is once again a system of great "hidden power" it seems. Much like the PS2.
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#27 rpg9000owner
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Carmack made 3D, if you are going to listen to anybody its him.
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I think this means that we will eventually see Exclusive PS3 games that look better than anything the 360 can do but multiplatform games will continue to look better on 360.

We might even see more occurances of multiplatform games comming out later on PS3 because it takes longer to program for.
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thats a very ignorant statement and he didnt say anything you just said. multiplatform games look slightly better because they run strictly off the PPE, and dont use any SPEs, because its very complicated to do so and devs dont have great tools from sony, but this was basically the whole point of GDC, sony showed some new tools that they are handing out to take advantage of the ps3.
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#29 akif22
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doom 3 looked good, but that's about it
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[QUOTE="GoodContributor"]this is the guy who made doom 3.  but he also says only few developers will be up to "sweating the blood" for using ps3 to "Da maX!"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_PFUw29U4J8
interesting interview.  the guy is a nerd ;)


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Naughty Dog said the same thing. I believe them both. That's the main problem with the PS3. Even though it's a very powerful system. Most developers will never be able to tap the full potential by the end of it's lifecycle. Many won't even try because it too complicated and takes too much time and effort.

Than what good is the Cell? :?

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#31 subject117
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Tell Carmack that Doom 3 sucked and to keep his mouth shut until he makes a good game. apolloluke
Doom 3 was great. I liked having to switch from the flashlight...it made it more intense and scared you more. Of course, you really have to have a good sound system and no distractions to enjoy that game.