Chalk one up for Sony

I was reading the new Gameinformer magazine and came across an article on mlb 2k8. Interesting aticle, the game looks good, even thought i dont think it will rival mlb 08 the show. But anyway the article went on to say that at shipping the 360 version will not have the features due to the fact it wont fit on the cd. On the otherhand PS3 will ship with everything because blu ray can hold it.

Believe it or not, this is a victory for Sony. Who knows how many games are going to be cut short for 360.

the 360 version will not have what features?

Who knows how many games are going to be cut short for ps2,

BlackPlague1

did it bother you last gen ?

The article says: "...there is so much content included in this game that parts of it won't fit on Xbox 360 disc."

It later goes on to say: "If you are a 360 owner wondering what is missing from this version of the game, never fear, 2k is planning to have all missing content avaible day one via download"

So pretty much since the 360 cant handle it all at once they need to send out update to round out the game. I would just be concerned being a 360 owner knwoing that your systems discs cant hold a basic baseball game.

But anyway the article went on to say that at shipping the 360 version will not have the features due to the fact it wont fit on the cd. BlackPlague1

cd? No game this gen will fit on a cd.

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But anyway the article went on to say that at shipping the 360 version will not have the features due to the fact it wont fit on the cd. lazerluke

cd? No game this gen will fit on a cd.

I realize that was the wrong thing to say. I am aware that games dont fit on Cd's anymore. But that isnt exactly what the thread is about.

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But anyway the article went on to say that at shipping the 360 version will not have the features due to the fact it wont fit on the cd. lazerluke

cd? No game this gen will fit on a cd.

You know what he meant.

the 360 version will not have what features?

MikeE21286

Congressional hearings for all your teams major superstars concerning steroid abuse and commentator ability to talk about everything else but the game at hand. If you play as the Cardinals, you get to hear the idiot Al Roboski slamming on the Cubs even though the Cards aren't currently playing them...

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the 360 version will not have what features?

DXGreat1_HGL

Congressional hearings for all your teams major superstars concerning steroid abuse and commentator ability to talk about everything else but the game at hand. If you play as the Cardinals, you get to hear the idiot Al Roboski slamming on the Cubs even though the Cards aren't currently playing them...

Had no realevance, but im glad you posted that haha

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

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So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Udsen

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

But now some features of a game have to be taken out of a 360 version because DVD9 can't handle it. Pretty big news. I can see why Wii60 fanboys get so defensive, smart, and edgy about this. It's hard not to be bitter when you get proven wrong.

[QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

The article says: "...there is so much content included in this game that parts of it won't fit on Xbox 360 disc."

It later goes on to say: "If you are a 360 owner wondering what is missing from this version of the game, never fear, 2k is planning to have all missing content avaible day one via download"

So pretty much since the 360 cant handle it all at once they need to send out update to round out the game. I would just be concerned being a 360 owner knwoing that your systems discs cant hold a basic baseball game.

BlackPlague1

If im getting the content, who cares.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Udsen

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

But now some features of a game have to be taken out of a 360 version because DVD9 can't handle it. Pretty big news. I can see why Wii60 fanboys get so defensive, smart, and edgy about this. It's hard not to be bitter when you get proven wrong.

your just rambling on about how im wrong without answering the questions or providing any multiplat game that looks superior to its 360 counterpart.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Multiplats look the same because they are developed the same.

Look at MLB 08: The Show, versus 2k8. That's taking advantage of the space on a blu ray

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So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

But now some features of a game have to be taken out of a 360 version because DVD9 can't handle it. Pretty big news. I can see why Wii60 fanboys get so defensive, smart, and edgy about this. It's hard not to be bitter when you get proven wrong.

your just rambling on about how im wrong without answering the questions or providing any multiplat game that looks superior to its 360 counterpart.

Because, you know, I developed the game.

Oblivion and Dirt. LOL There you go, bud. And don't give me that "oh, it launched a year later" crap, they're the same games, and they play better and look better on PS3.

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So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

But now some features of a game have to be taken out of a 360 version because DVD9 can't handle it. Pretty big news. I can see why Wii60 fanboys get so defensive, smart, and edgy about this. It's hard not to be bitter when you get proven wrong.

your just rambling on about how im wrong without answering the questions or providing any multiplat game that looks superior to its 360 counterpart.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

prodiqy32

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

But now some features of a game have to be taken out of a 360 version because DVD9 can't handle it. Pretty big news. I can see why Wii60 fanboys get so defensive, smart, and edgy about this. It's hard not to be bitter when you get proven wrong.

your just rambling on about how im wrong without answering the questions or providing any multiplat game that looks superior to its 360 counterpart.

Which will probably be free because its not a microsoft published game. But then again you never know.

What a joke, your telling me Oblivion fit on one disc and MLB 2K8 cant!? If 2K games spent the time they could easily fit it all on one disc for the 360.xXHackettXx

Im not on the developing team with 2k. Its just what i read. Plus Oblvion looks better on Ps3, cause of the power of blu

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]What a joke, your telling me Oblivion fit on one disc and MLB 2K8 cant!? If 2K games spent the time they could easily fit it all on one disc for the 360.BlackPlague1

Im not on the developing team with 2k. Its just what i read. Plus Oblvion looks better on Ps3, cause of the power of blu

Wrong disc space has nothing to do with visuals. This has been discussed many times before. Oblivion benefitted from extra development time.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="Udsen"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

So a baseball game is going to help sony ?

:lol: call me when blu-ray disk space actually dose somthing important for a game.

prodiqy32

No, it's just showing that Blu-ray, while biased fanboys like you claim "isn't needed", may play a key role in not only getting exclusives, but enhancing a multiplat due to a large developing canvas. Couple this with the PhyreEngine and boom.

Blu-ray hasent played any role in getting exclusive all the games sony is "claming" to use the power of blu-ray have eiter been new IP's or are exclusive to the ps3. I havent seen one multiplat that looks vastly superior to there 360 counterpart with the hlep of blu-ray.

I like how now that the first piece of evidence that Blu-Ray obviously is going to out do DVD is out all the 360 fanboys are in such denial lol. All like, WHAT FEATURES ARE MISSING?? ID LIKE TO KNOW!! WHAT IS IT!! Countless times it's been said on these forums that it's inevitable that BluRay version of multiplats will feature more stuff, where as 360 goers will have to DL this, and the fact of the matter is that alot of people still dont even have their 360s hooked up to an internet connection. +1 for Sony.

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]What a joke, your telling me Oblivion fit on one disc and MLB 2K8 cant!? If 2K games spent the time they could easily fit it all on one disc for the 360.BlackPlague1

Im not on the developing team with 2k. Its just what i read. Plus Oblvion looks better on Ps3, cause of the power of blu

BS oblivion looks way better on 360 because the lighting is better

Because, you know, I developed the game.

Oblivion and Dirt. LOL There you go, bud. And don't give me that "oh, it launched a year later" crap, they're the same games, and they play better and look better on PS3.

Thats it, thats all PS3 has over the 360? A game that they got full year later and barely edges out the 360 version, and another game that came out six months after the 360 version. Your all powerful machine has got to do better than that, really your hyping a baseball game! c'mon man read your BS before you post it and see how lame it sounds, quit embarrising yourself.

What can a baseball game possibly have that couldnt fit on DVD9? Stadiums? nah, lots of reused textures nothing special there. Hmm maybe voice commentating cut down on the 360 version (Sound does use up a lot of space). If thats it you can have your blu ray.

All this Blu-ray argument will be so old in a few years when Microsoft makes a game system with a blu-ray drive or better. It will probably knock the socks off the PS3 with faster read times and whatnot. Sony got a late start which allowed them more time to sit back and 1up the 360 at every turn. This cycle has been going on in games since the 80s and will continue until there is only 1 system for everyone. If that ever happens...

I think thats the developers fault unless the game is packed full of features that require different models, textures and sound for each feature. Adding in different game types wont effect the size of the game on the disc.

Anyway it is good for PS3 owners but still doesnt add up to me at all, atleast not for a baseball game.

The article says: "...there is so much content included in this game that parts of it won't fit on Xbox 360 disc."

It later goes on to say: "If you are a 360 owner wondering what is missing from this version of the game, never fear, 2k is planning to have all missing content avaible day one via download"

So pretty much since the 360 cant handle it all at once they need to send out update to round out the game. I would just be concerned being a 360 owner knwoing that your systems discs cant hold a basic baseball game.

BlackPlague1

What difference does it make if it's all on the disc when they are making the missing content available via download from day one? 360 gamers still get everybit of the content. So exactl why should 360 owners be worried when they'll still get the complete game?

Speaking of missing features has anyone seen voice chat for UT 3 laying around anywhere?

Somehow, I have a VERY hard time believe that a baseball game, of all things, is the first game that truly warrants Blu-Ray...Verge_6

i agree

They are offering all the content on day one as a direct download.

What this comment above says is Blu Ray itself NOT needed, but a HDD is;) At least 360 users who got the core can slowly feed more money to MSFT by upgrading to a HDD. I know some of you want all of the data on one disc, but being some Blu Ray games require installs and I personally am a PC user, it basically shows that a hard drive with an internet connection is GREATLY more important then Blu Ray is for gaming.

MSFT just needs to can the no HDD idea...

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Yeah, I remember those Blu-ray not needed threads. It was like they ignore the transition from cartridge - cd- dvd...Cute_Red_Panda

Wouldn't matter anyways. PS3 has a standard HDD that can install games like PC. Thus Blu-Ray is not needed.

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[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"]What a joke, your telling me Oblivion fit on one disc and MLB 2K8 cant!? If 2K games spent the time they could easily fit it all on one disc for the 360.sirk1264

Im not on the developing team with 2k. Its just what i read. Plus Oblvion looks better on Ps3, cause of the power of blu

Wrong disc space has nothing to do with visuals. This has been discussed many times before. Oblivion benefitted from extra development time.

That is a very untrue statement.That is like saying games don't need to be more then the 700mbs CD because a good dev can make visuals,sound,and so on fit on a CD.Oblivion while a good game,the big world has nothing to do with whats on the DVD.In fact because Oblivion is a big world on a DVD its has very limited textures,sound,and the same voice acting for most NPCs which take up for most the room on the DVD to begin with.Oblivion is the same look almost everywhere you go in the game nothing really changes.

If Oblivion could be a bigger size it could have higher res textures and more textures at that,better sounds,better animation and the list goes on to what can take up space that would make the game better.You maybe say if Oblivion can do it,a baseball game can.Its false because Oblivion is a year old and gaming advances and new technology are put into games to make them sound,look,and feel more real at a very fast pace.

But teh bluE-ray iznt nessecary!!f50p90

We're still waiting for a link to prove that is true. Once it's been proven, then you can mock all you want. :)