Check out this PC for only $299.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

ewwwww. :|

WhenCicadasCry

Why ew? Playing at 720p is ew.

not when you sit at a normal distance. It looks fine, as good as I ever need really. Now on a PC 720p is eww. Oh and Stalker looks awful. 8) this 300 pc looks like junk.

Like a user previously stated, once you throw in KB/M, an OS, and shipping you're at $440, minimum.

It's still a decent deal, and it's nice that you get a quad-core CPU and DDR3 RAM. With a good GPU, you'd be at somewhere around $530.

The other day I priced out the best PC I could piece together for the lowest amount of cash and I hit $443 shipped. That's with a Radeon 4850 512MB VRAM. All things considered, you get a lot more out that PC than a $300 console could offer, and if you already own an OS(I bought XP back in 2002, still use it to this day) and can recycle some parts like KB/M and DVD drive, it really would only cost around $300.

So yeah, PC gaming is affordable.

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

ewwwww. :|

theuncharted34

Why ew? Playing at 720p is ew.

not when you sit at a normal distance. It looks fine, as good as I ever need really. Now on a PC 720p is eww. Oh and Stalker looks awful. 8) this 300 pc looks like junk.

I've sat at a "normal distance" and it still looks low res and blurry lol.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Why ew? Playing at 720p is ew.

WhenCicadasCry

not when you sit at a normal distance. It looks fine, as good as I ever need really. Now on a PC 720p is eww. Oh and Stalker looks awful. 8) this 300 pc looks like junk.

I've sat at a "normal distance" and it still looks low res and blurry lol.

5 - 7 feet away? seems like we have had different experiences.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

not when you sit at a normal distance. It looks fine, as good as I ever need really. Now on a PC 720p is eww. Oh and Stalker looks awful. 8) this 300 pc looks like junk.

theuncharted34

I've sat at a "normal distance" and it still looks low res and blurry lol.

5 - 7 feet away? seems like we have had different experiences.

No, we had the same experiences. It's just I game on a PC at 1080p 4-8XAA and you game on a console at 720p 2xAA. ;)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

I've sat at a "normal distance" and it still looks low res and blurry lol.

WhenCicadasCry

5 - 7 feet away? seems like we have had different experiences.

No, we had the same experiences. It's just I game on a PC at 1080p 4-8XAA and you game on a console at 720p 2xAA. ;)

uh huh. and does your pc cost 300 bucks as well? ;) you can give me all the winks you want but 720p is a fine resolution at 5 - 7 feet away. Especially with some fine MLAA that all ps3 exclusives are going to get from now on. MLAA = 16 x MSAA in most solutions. Seen god of war 3? Yeh we don't see this on multiplats but teh cell :P

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

Hakkai007

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

dukenukemownsu

I already know your talking bull now because I have the same GPU with a stronger CPU.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

Hakkai007

I already know your talking bull now because I have the same GPU with a stronger CPU.

i can do 1600x1200 max no aa easy. You dont own a bfgtech 8800 GT 512 mb probley lower clock speeds also.]dukenukemownsu

I have my 8800gt OCed way past normal clocks.

And no you can't do it at that resolution even without AA.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]i can do 1600x1200 max no aa easy. You dont own a bfgtech 8800 GT 512 mb probley lower clock speeds also.]Hakkai007

I have my 8800gt OCed way past normal clocks.

And no you can't do it at that resolution even without AA.

That's ur problem the card's probley throttling lowering it's performance. crysis ingame anti aliasing settings will kill ur framerate any resolution, if i force anti aliasing through my drivers performance hit isnt as bad. plus even with anti aliasing enabled u can barly tell no aa from x4 aa.dukenukemownsu

I have been using computers for over 20 years so I know what I am talking about.

You are talking bull since max settings with your config would give low fps. The snow level would especially kill your frames with something around 15 fps.

My system is better than yours so there is no BS of yours getting past me.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]That's ur problem the card's probley throttling lowering it's performance. crysis ingame anti aliasing settings will kill ur framerate any resolution, if i force anti aliasing through my drivers performance hit isnt as bad. plus even with anti aliasing enabled u can barly tell no aa from x4 aa.Hakkai007

I have been using computers for over 20 years so I know what I am talking about.

You are talking bull since max settings with your config would give low fps. The snow level would especially kill your frames with something around 15 fps.

My system is better than yours so there is no BS of yours getting past me.

how much ram and what cpu do you have? you realize your video card's clock speed's are probley raised too high and the card is lowering it's clocks past stock clock speeds to prevent it from frying aka trottling. see bfgtech they overclock the card alittle, but not much past stock clocks so it doesnt trottle.dukenukemownsu

I have software which detects my clocks on my second screen and there is no throttling.

I have BFG 8800gt OC version.

AMD Athlon x2 5200+ 2.7ghz

3gigs of ddr2 800 mhz ram

I know you are bsing. Nothing you will say will change that.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]how much ram and what cpu do you have? you realize your video card's clock speed's are probley raised too high and the card is lowering it's clocks past stock clock speeds to prevent it from frying aka trottling. see bfgtech they overclock the card alittle, but not much past stock clocks so it doesnt trottle.Hakkai007

I have software which detects my clocks on my second screen and there is no throttling.

I have BFG 8800gt OC version.

AMD Athlon x2 5200+ 2.7ghz

3gigs of ddr2 800 mhz ram

I know you are bsing. Nothing you will say will change that.

plus ur athlon x2 2.7 ghz it's a 65w...my cpu is 45w ur's is more of a powerhog lol.dukenukemownsu

That would not effect performance as my PSU can easily handle it.

Plus my CPU is more powerful to begin with.

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]plus ur athlon x2 2.7 ghz it's a 65w...my cpu is 45w ur's is more of a powerhog lol.Hakkai007

That would not effect performance as my PSU can easily handle it.

Plus my CPU is more powerful to begin with.

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

not really lol, 600 mhz? that need's more power and it's 65nm mine 45nm. i could easily overclock mine past ur's.dukenukemownsu

The size does not mean much especially with your cpu.

Sure you may produce less heat but you have locked multipliers.

The best people get on OCing that thing is around 2.7ghz with volt modding.

Plus I am already betting you didn't do that as you made a gross exaggeration of it OCing capabilities.

.

Do I need to pwn you even more?

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

You did not play crysis at max unless you mean console res.

stiggy321

Nah he will get better framerate like 15fps.

I get in the low 20s at 1680x1050 and my CPU takes quite the beating along with my GPU which is how I know he is full of ****.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]

not really lol, 600 mhz? that need's more power and it's 65nm mine 45nm. i could easily overclock mine past ur's.Hakkai007

The size does not mean much especially in your cpu.

Sure you may produce less heat but you have locked multipliers.

The best people get on OCing that thing is around 2.7ghz with volt modding.

Plus I am already betting you didn't do that as you may a gross exaggeration of it OCing capabilities.

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Do I need to pwn you even more?

lol my cpu's better at overclocking period, even at 2.7 ghz my cpu would probley perform better because it's running not as hot.dukenukemownsu

Why is this forum full of people who have no idea what they are talking about.......I lose hope in human intelligence at posts like this.

You have obviously never OCed a CPU as you have no idea what volt modding is.

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Your CPU is weaker get over it and face up to your BS.

Since I am talking to someone who doesn't know anything about what they are arguing I will not waste my time and just stop.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Like a user previously stated, once you throw in KB/M, an OS, and shipping you're at $440, minimum.

It's still a decent deal, and it's nice that you get a quad-core CPU and DDR3 RAM. With a good GPU, you'd be at somewhere around $530.

The other day I priced out the best PC I could piece together for the lowest amount of cash and I hit $443 shipped. That's with a Radeon 4850 512MB VRAM. All things considered, you get a lot more out that PC than a $300 console could offer, and if you already own an OS(I bought XP back in 2002, still use it to this day) and can recycle some parts like KB/M and DVD drive, it really would only cost around $300.

So yeah, PC gaming is affordable.

savagetwinkie

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that's not the point of this exercise. TC was trying to prove PC gaming can be affordable, and the closest you can get while still be a step above is around the $450 mark. Sure you can spend $800, but that suggests PC gaming costs more than all the current-gen consoles combined to get a superior experience, which isn't true.

Crysis on High settings, 1920x1200 @ 30fps is more than suitable to prove that $450 can get you a solid, complete PC that will far surpass consoles through the rest of the gen. Then you get the COD games like COD4 running Highest settings, 1920x1200 4xAA @60fps instead of medium-high settings 1024x600 2xAA @ 60fps.

PC gaming is a personalized experience. You build to cater to your own expectations.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]lol my cpu's better at overclocking period, even at 2.7 ghz my cpu would probley perform better because it's running not as hot.Hakkai007

Why is this forum full of people who have no idea what they are talking about.......I lose hope in human intelligence at posts like this.

You have obviously never OCed a CPU as you have no idea what volt modding is.

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Your CPU is weaker get over it and face up to your BS.

Since I am talking to someone who doesn't know anything about what they are arguing I will not waste my time and just stop.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Like a user previously stated, once you throw in KB/M, an OS, and shipping you're at $440, minimum.

It's still a decent deal, and it's nice that you get a quad-core CPU and DDR3 RAM. With a good GPU, you'd be at somewhere around $530.

The other day I priced out the best PC I could piece together for the lowest amount of cash and I hit $443 shipped. That's with a Radeon 4850 512MB VRAM. All things considered, you get a lot more out that PC than a $300 console could offer, and if you already own an OS(I bought XP back in 2002, still use it to this day) and can recycle some parts like KB/M and DVD drive, it really would only cost around $300.

So yeah, PC gaming is affordable.

gamecubepad

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that's not the point of this exercise. TC was trying to prove PC gaming can be affordable, and the closest you can get while still be a step above is around the $450 mark. Sure you can spend $800, but that suggests PC gaming costs more than all the current-gen consoles combined to get a superior experience, which isn't true.

Crysis on High settings, 1920x1200 @ 30fps is more than suitable to prove that $450 can get you a solid, complete PC that will far surpass consoles through the rest of the gen. Then you get the COD games like COD4 Highest settings, 1920x1200 4xAA @60fps instead of medium-high settings 1024x600 2xAA @ 60fps.

PC gaming is a personalized experience. You build to cater to your own expectations.

450-500USD would be 3x the power of a console.

450-500USD would be 3x the power of a console.

Hakkai007

Yeah, the sub-$500 PC will get you right around that level of performance. A 4850 has roughly 3-times the transistor count of the Xenos, 16-times the amount of SPUs, and can, for the most part, achieve better framerates at 3-times the resolution with double the AA setting and higher texture quality.

All that and you're only paying $150-200 extra, while having the benefit of a fully functional PC.

this dude cant prove he has a 2.7 ghz athlon x2 along with a 8800 gt. you could be lying saying you own this you talk like someone who doesnt even own this pc.dukenukemownsu

Sure I can.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]this dude cant prove he has a 2.7 ghz athlon x2 along with a 8800 gt. you could be lying saying you own this you talk like someone who doesnt even own this pc.Hakkai007

Sure I can.

This should be enough.

It even shows the same computer name.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/RyviusRan1/desktop1-1.jpg

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/RyviusRan1/desktop-1.jpg

No OS so add $100. The MB also doesn't have Wifi.

But yea pc gaming isn't as expensive as it used to be, however I still think the PS3 is the best deal for gamers on a budget.

No OS so add $100. The MB also doesn't have Wifi.

But yea pc gaming isn't as expensive as it used to be, however I still think the PS3 is the best deal for gamers on a budget.

dc337

Depends on what they like.

To some a DS or PSP may be the best budget.

Also if you know any college friend or if you are in college you can purchase windows 7 for 30USD.

Or just find someone pay them 5 or 10 USD and have them buy it for you.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

No OS so add $100. The MB also doesn't have Wifi.

But yea pc gaming isn't as expensive as it used to be, however I still think the PS3 is the best deal for gamers on a budget.

Hakkai007

Depends on what they like.

To some a DS or PSP may be the best budget.

Also if you know any college friend or if you are in college you can purchase windows 7 for 30USD.

Or just find someone pay them 5 or 10 USD and have them buy it for you.

here's the difference im running windows xp lol ur running windows 7...windows 7 is definitely more sluggish.dukenukemownsu

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LOl.....no.

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Also you are only playing the directx 9 version of crysis which is not maxed.

Only Windows Vista and 7 can use directx 10.

Unless you tweak the settings which I doubt you knew.

You just added more evidence to show your ignorance of computers.

Also windows 7 runs great.

Best for budget HD gaming. You can get a used ps3 for $250. But the real problem with the pc is that it gets skipped on too many multiplats. Going pc-only is unacceptable to most gamers.

dc337

Well I don't know about most gamers since PC gaming is fairly popular especially in Europe.

And Consoles miss out on a lot of PC games but it is all about gaming taste.

Some people prefer the PC games more than the console games and visa versa.

Also 720P is barely HD. PC gamers have been experiencing higher resolutions than 720P since the late 1990s.

[QUOTE="dukenukemownsu"]here's the difference im running windows xp lol ur running windows 7...windows 7 is definitely more sluggish.Hakkai007

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LOl.....no.

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Also you are only playing the directx 9 version of crysis which is not maxed.

Only Windows Vista and 7 can use directx 10.

You just added more evidence to show your ignorance of computers.

umm crysis warhead doesnt need direct x 10 or dx11 for max. only original crysis and there are config hacks for dx9 to run it on max.dukenukemownsu

Yah there is one but the game still runs differently on the directx 10 version than the 9.

Also windows 7 is a great OS.

I tweaked it to run as well as windows xp so there is no frame rate difference.

I have both OSes.