China Doesn't Care About The PS4 Or Xbox One

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/07/12/china-doesnt-care-about-the-ps4-or-xbox-one/

This could be bad for consoles. China has the biggest population in the entire world. You need these people on your side to win in system wars.

As an old school PC gamer myself from the original Starcraft I knew china hated consoles since around 1997.

I used to play all day with people from Hong Kong. This isn't new PC has been the master race this whole entire time.

Even back then I knew the PlayStation era was over.

Now PC is just blowing up you got league of legends millions playing it per day, what console game even comes close to those numbers?

Amazon is building a PC game and RockStar said they want to build a PC online only GTA devs are moving to PC imo.

Sony and Microsoft could have made PC killing consoles like last gen. Imagine if Sony brought back a more powerful cell processor created for high tech military computers. Or Microsoft threw in some nvidia Titans in there consoles at a 399 price tag.

The war could have been over for PC and PCMR would be scrambling to somehow match these prices. No PC would have matched that technology for that price and war would have been over.

Instead they built some weak crap that isn't competitive with PC.

Even mobile is freaking out they know PC is godly and they can't seem penetrate PC gamers into the casual mobile market and are constantly mocked and its having an effect on the casuals are agreeing that mobile is crap now too.and now going to PC with the core.

Yup. China don't care.

Do Chinese devs create AAA games? If not then who cares if there's a market over there.

What planet are you living on? That would bankrupt Sony and Microsoft.......

yeah but they would win the war for marketshare everyone would just buy those instead of a pc

If I had to guess, I'd say any publisher who wants to break into the chinese market without having to worry about local competition.

This is the first time China has allowed consoles to be sold in their country for quite some time. The console industry did just fine without them.

lol, that's like some LoosingEnds shit from before the consoles released

So you would be fine with Sony or Microsoft going bankrupt and shutting down just as long as they win the console war?

Makes sense.....

China never gave a damn about consoles anyways. Let's not forget that Foxcon is in China so I'm sure they got those PS4/Xbox One for free anyways since they build those over there.

Maybe China have the numbers of console made each month and the number of how much console a province get each month. Which is about 6 that's it?

That's classic :D

This isn't surprising, the Chinese usually avoid Japanese and American products whenever possible.

NO SHIT

China has always been a pc gaming country. MOBAs and MMORPGs are freaking huge there. Plus, there's a big internet cafe culture, also connecte dto pcs.

1. China has never cared.

2. Console gaming has survived and thrived regardless.

3. Do you honestly think Sony and Microsoft could afford to put all that technology, mass produce it and sell it at such a cheap price? I don't know if you understand how business works, but there's a real system of money going in vs. money coming out.

The Wii and PS2 sold more then 100mill without China , so unless those are bad numbers for the companies , yeah consoles are dead.

Grad a shovel and bury your consoles friends , it's over , no point in going on...................wait , put Titans in an Xbox?

.............................................Stop drinking liquid stupid , its not good for you.

"You need these people on your side to win in system wars." lol like that is important ^^

Considering consoles have been just fine without China since the beginning of the industry I'm sure they will be fine.

I don't think the chinese or the koreans cared about the consoles, or non online games in general. Seem's like thats all they play over there.

because PC is where they can pirate the games

No shockers there.

more than half of the games are banned. I heard you can't even play any games online either. PC on the other hand because of piracy is more viable in a place like that. They can use proxy and stuff to overcome regional restrictions.

no they wouldnt. pcs arent just for gaming you know...

It's an experimental market right now. They will likely meet a lot of resistance promoting it this gen, but then when Generation 9 comes out, they will have established themselves. PC gaming is more or less the "household name" in China. Any console maker has an uphill climb breaking into that market but it is very much worth it since they have a rising middle class.

Another thread where OP proves he's a complete idiot.

China likes to illegally clone stuff. It's just a matter of time before PS4 and XB1 clones come out.

That and modded versions of legit consoles. Lots of console pirate scum there.

Games sell consoles. In China's case, they have not had exposure to the big franchises that sell consoles here in the outside world. They don't know Halo from Final Fantasy. Mention Gears of War or God of War and they will more than likely look at you blankly. Gran Turismo of Forza? They give zero fucks about that.

The challenge is to develop the market. We take it for granted, because consoles have been in the public conscious since the late 70's, that somehow the rules will work the same when a game machine launches in a new country. In China's case, their isolation from the phenomenon of mass market console gaming is in itself a hurdle. It will take time and effort, which is an alien concept to a multibillion dollar industry that has been able to sell itself everywhere else around the world.

That's what I was going to say. Bravo. :P

China, India, Indonesia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh are all HUGE countries, and very few of them are playing PS4/XboxOne.

It doesn't really damage a console market which already exists, and is profitable selling to people in North America, Europe, Japan and Oceania. But you can guarantee that any company would rather be making money from the chinese market than not.

no its not fine console gamers are aging and stuff. Pretty they'll be grandpas and grandma and dropping like flies

this is not fine its the opposite of fine this is bad.

Man you're absolutely right. All of us gamers are going to die with nobody to replace us, we need a contingency plan. I get that.

But what happens when these China people from Vietpan or whatever start aging too?

I guess this is why we have Alienware? So aliens can keep gaming alive?

Plz, plz answer me bro, I'm trying to keep up but this stuff is just mind blowing.

You can pirate console and handheld games as well.

Besides, the most popular games (by a huuuuge margin) in China are online-only titles like MMOs and MOBAs.

easier to pirate games on PC, plus no need to pay for PS+ and XBLG

Yep. And I know the topic is China, but in a lot of territories where console gaming is unpopular, the piracy is so rampant that you can pick up boot leg games at the store.

I saw it all the time on my travels. Back in the day I was on a trip to Egypt and saw a copy of "Twisted Metals Block" in a cd case being sold for the PS2 at the mall. The entire store was dedicated to selling bootleg games, but that damn title was so funny I just had to buy it. Wish I still had it.

Why would china care about consoles when they can't play any of the games? I wouldn't care about consoles and be a PC gamer too if I could only play 3% of the console library.

China's PS4 and Xbox one game library consists of Knack and Screamride.

Why would they buy a console there? Almost the entire library of the twins are banned. I wouldn't want to touch either of those things if I lived in China. Wii U on the other hand... I would be there day 1. Only a couple of their games would be banned, but almost everything else would be available. Heck I think even Splatoon would make it through the censors.

The Chinese haven't had an influence or entrance in the console market in some 15 odd years, them no caring either way changes absolutely nothing.

They don't care about other game either.

It's because China knows most of the games are multiplat and they can play most of them without getting an X1 or PS4 ;-)

I was trying to decide if I should come in this thread or just punch myself in the balls.

...........Regrets

Bingo

/thread

in other words, they have common sense. no wonder they are smart

You know it :-P

Allow me to make it worth your while.

Why would either NEED China to win SW? This country hasn't been involved in a long time and consoles sold and reached this point.

The bottom line is there is a market for consoles and PC to live in. There are millions of PC gamers and there are millions of people who don't want to spend time or money to build or upgrade PCs for gaming. These people buy cheap desktops and laptops for basic PC uses.

China got love for Nintendo. PC/Nintendo make the perfect combo. We coming for you China, we comin.

But never make a profit. What good is the market share if you are swimming in debt as a company? Sony is loving how well the PS4 is doing but take a look at their financials as a company. They aren't loving those and still have a shit credit rating due to billions of debt. I don't think you understand a bit of corporate business. Sony made a great console and were so smart to not be selling at major losses so as to limit new debt.

Oh I get it, you're drunk right? ...

Who are crapping bricks with their market crashing