Cliffy B: The Children In Heavy Rain Are The Most Hedious. Ever.

Cliff Bleszinski has said time and time again that he really loves Heavy Rain. The developer has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre. But there are certain elements in the game he thinks could have been down better.

Especially the way the children in the game act, according to Bleszinski, David Cage and his Quantic Dream team didn't do enough to avoid the "uncanny valley".

"Yes, it really grows on me," he said when asked by Gamereactor if he was enjoying Heavy Rain. "But, even if I feel it's a really good game, I don't think they have done enough to avoid the "uncanny valley" problems. The children in the game are some of the most hideous I have seen. Ever."

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Just as bad as any other 3D game with children.

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

so people here will ignore his compliments and overexaggerate one little nitpicking.

proceed.

so people here will ignore his compliments and overexaggerate one little nitpicking.

proceed.

HavocV3

My friend; it wouldn't be system wars if they didn't. (:

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

FragTycoon

[Cliff Bleszinski] has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre.

icygangsta

How exactly is Heavy Rain a new genre ?

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[Cliff Bleszinski] has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre.

R4gn4r0k

How exactly is Heavy Rain a new genre ?

Besides Fahrenheit which is developed by QD also you'll be hard pressed to find a game developed before Fahrenheit similar to Heavy Rain.

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[QUOTE="icygangsta"]

[Cliff Bleszinski] has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre.

icygangsta

How exactly is Heavy Rain a new genre ?

Besides Fahrenheit which is developed by QD also you'll be hard pressed to find a game developed before Fahrenheit similar to Heavy Rain.

He is right, though. The characters in his games are deliberately exaggerated in order to avoid the uncanny valley effect. Heavy Rain, whilst it wouldnt suit distorted faces, had some problems with overcoming the effect.

Some of the models were repulsive, and some of the things on screen were just uncomfortable to watch.

Wow, that guy is so stupid. Having sn opinion on the game, who the hell does he think he is?

He wishes he could make a game with graphics as great as this and blah blah etc etc.

I agree, but not only the children. that game is a miserable imitation of a movie, while I think that games should just stay games. shaking the fruit juice with your joypad.. :S unexpressive people, the characters looked all retarded. but of course you CAN'T transform reality into a videogame, it's just NOT possible, it's data, not some sort of life that lives in a bluray disc.

I don't know you guys, but I have like zero interest in wannabe movies, I'd rather enjoy myself a real movie then. I don't understand this hysterical pursue to turn games into something that wants to replicate the reality, life, which is characterized by infinitesimal events and casualties that will never ever be imitated in a videogame, as it's simply impossible. No wonder that we see lots of flaws in games like Heavy Rain then, because we automatically compare reality with that part of the game that is trying to show us something "realistic", hence we see all the defects.

When people tell me that games should become like movies, I say NO, I can be an old-fashioned gamer, but I don't want games to lose their main role of videogames.

If anyone else had said this, no one would have cared, but since Young Clifford is on "the other side" and therefore must be launching an attack on HR, plus the fact that everyone hates him, this is now an issue.

Uh, he said it was a joke..

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

FragTycoon

best post in the thread

and plus OT i wanted to punch everybody in the game

I agree, but not only the children. that game is a miserable imitation of a movie, while I think that games should just stay games. shaking the fruit juice with your joypad.. :S unexpressive people, the characters looked all retarded. but of course you CAN'T transform reality into a videogame, it's just NOT possible, it's data, not some sort of life that lives in a bluray disc.

I don't know you guys, but I have like zero interest in wannabe movies, I'd rather enjoy myself a real movie then. I don't understand this hysterical pursue to turn games into something that wants to replicate the reality, life, which is characterized by infinitesimal events and casualties that will never ever be imitated in a videogame, as it's simply impossible. No wonder that we see lots of flaws in games like Heavy Rain then, because we automatically compare reality with that part of the game that is trying to show us something "realistic", hence we see all the defects.

When people tell me that games should become like movies, I say NO, I can be an old-fashioned gamer, but I don't want games to lose their main role of videogames.

aia89

Heavy Rain devs. Cliffy B is watching your children.

And make them all 6'4", 300 lbs with a gun that duals as a chainsaw. Now Cliffy B would love THEM.

I agree, but not only the children. that game is a miserable imitation of a movie, while I think that games should just stay games. shaking the fruit juice with your joypad.. :S unexpressive people, the characters looked all retarded. but of course you CAN'T transform reality into a videogame, it's just NOT possible, it's data, not some sort of life that lives in a bluray disc.

I don't know you guys, but I have like zero interest in wannabe movies, I'd rather enjoy myself a real movie then. I don't understand this hysterical pursue to turn games into something that wants to replicate the reality, life, which is characterized by infinitesimal events and casualties that will never ever be imitated in a videogame, as it's simply impossible. No wonder that we see lots of flaws in games like Heavy Rain then, because we automatically compare reality with that part of the game that is trying to show us something "realistic", hence we see all the defects.

When people tell me that games should become like movies, I say NO, I can be an old-fashioned gamer, but I don't want games to lose their main role of videogames.

aia89

apropos of photorealism.. there's an interesting article that every gamer should read

I think the following is a good point:

"Imagine you were to look at a painting of a person. You know it's not real, hence there are various errors that might subconsciously bother you, even though you wouldn't have noticed them if those same apparent errors were edited into a photo. You might not be able to pinpoint what's wrong with it, but instinctively your mind noticed something wasn't right. Video game worlds are by their very nature artificial. There's all sorts of factors that we would normally not be bothered by that will simply feel wrong when seen in a video game. A very clean hallway will look unfinished and a perfectly straight edge will look like it lacks detail."

itt: epic reading comprehention fails

anyway cliffyb thread, cue borderline-illiterate haters

so people here will ignore his compliments and overexaggerate one little nitpicking.

proceed.

HavocV3

The man makes one comment and everyone attacks him. Geez. :lol:

Heavy Rain devs. Cliffy B is watching your children.

And make them all 6'4", 300 lbs with a gun that duals as a chainsaw. Now Cliffy B would love THEM.

MellowMighty

Cliff says, "They're BEAUTIFUL!:shock::cry:

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[Cliff Bleszinski] has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre.

icygangsta

How exactly is Heavy Rain a new genre ?

Besides Fahrenheit which is developed by QD also you'll be hard pressed to find a game developed before Fahrenheit similar to Heavy Rain.

What does Gears's and Heavy Rain's characters have anything to do with eachother? Do you guys even know what the uncanny valley means? Heavy Rain is supposed to be as realistic as possible, whilst Gears is definitely not.

Really Cliffy? Why don't you do better then making huge ****ing feet and oversized unrealistic body models on your characters before you talk about someone elses design.

Because Gears has good looking and realistic character models, amirite?

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

FragTycoon

Because Gears has good looking and realistic character models, amirite?

Loco_Live

Really Cliffy? Why don't you do better then making huge ****ing feet and oversized unrealistic body models on your characters before you talk about someone elses design.

ItsBriskBaby

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

FragTycoon

If cliffy B made children models

What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

FragTycoon

.. Well they are hedious.:P

Uh, he said it was a joke..

sammyjenkis898

Looks like people didn't read this lol. I quote it so everyone at the end of the thread can see it.

Jason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Press X to Jason!

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[QUOTE="icygangsta"]

[Cliff Bleszinski] has gone as far as to say Heavy Rain has created a new genre.

icygangsta

How exactly is Heavy Rain a new genre ?

Besides Fahrenheit which is developed by QD also you'll be hard pressed to find a game developed before Fahrenheit simeilar to Heavy Rain.

There's been games like Heavy Rain on the PC for years...its call the Adventure Genre.

Children are hideous in real life.

Children are hideous in real life.

Zerocrossings

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What would cliffy b know about making realistic character models?

Mystic-G