Cliffy B's response to Guitar Hero's fall (which makes a good point for all IP).

From his Twitter (although shown on other sites such as CVG)

"You can have an IP that you lovingly care for and release every so often that can last forever, or one you ride hard into the ground."

You know, Cliff does have a point and I don't think this quote not only applies to just Activision here. This quote can also applies to EVERY other company that keeps an IP with a lot of games.

Thoughts?

Thats just Activisions business model. Squeeze everything as fast as you can.

Thyre a short-sighted company. I dont think Kotick and the gang expect to stay for long

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Very True! I believe Nintendo is a great example of that. They dont ruin their franchises by releasing games once a year for them. We get the occasional Zelda or Mario game. That remain high quality and are a treat to people when they are released.

Sports games dont count lol

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

Why do you want WoW to crash and burn?

Games shouldn't release yearly aside from maybe sports games but even still there is a better way of handling them. Even Assassin Creed 2 and Brotherhood was a little too much for me. I still really enjoyed both of them, but the idea of playing a 3rd one this Fall isnn't too appealing. Publishers just seem to want their money ASAP and are putting quantity over quality

Very True! I believe Nintendo is a great example of that. They dont ruin their franchises by releasing games once a year for them. We get the occasional Zelda or Mario game. That remain high quality and are a treat to people when they are released.

Sports games dont count lol

RyanShazam

Will we get a Zelda like once every 4 years and mario is like one per generation except this gen they actually gave us two marios

(I'm talking real mario games *galaxy,Sunshine 64 etc...)

Games shouldn't release yearly aside from maybe sports games but even still there is a better way of handling them. Even Assassin Creed 2 and Brotherhood was a little too much for me. I still really enjoyed both of them, but the idea of playing a 3rd one this Fall isnn't too appealing. Publishers just seem to want their money ASAP and are putting quantity over quality

BPoole96

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

Disagree, with the exception to the NES there has only been one true Mario game for each console, which works in Cliff's first point. Pokemon on the other hand is just a phenomenon, I'm not sure how its worked out as well as it has. Even thought I love the games. :P

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

There isn't a new Pokemon every year and Mario does have a game released every year, but they all feel different. Every Guitar Hero is EXACTLY the same as the previous. There's absolutely no reason to spend another $60 on a game which has worse songs than the previous version.

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

mario and pokemon game releases each year? :O

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

After the collapse of the CoD franchise Acti will have nothing left for cash cows. The only three game to ever make Acti tons of money were Tony Hawk, Guitar Hero and CoD. None of their other franchise really preformed well yeah some were successful but not in terms of what these three made. Blizzard needs to sever ties and go on their own again. Acti and its mismanagement are a sicking ship that only now is starting to show signs of stress and wear after years of bad decisions. Bobby's arrogance will be the death of Acti. If I was a shareholder I would be extremely weary of how the business is being run right now. Yeah their still making money right now. But doesn't everyone feel that they have no real plans for longevity as a company???

I doubt Kotick has love for something... well, besides money that is.

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Games shouldn't release yearly aside from maybe sports games but even still there is a better way of handling them. Even Assassin Creed 2 and Brotherhood was a little too much for me. I still really enjoyed both of them, but the idea of playing a 3rd one this Fall isnn't too appealing. Publishers just seem to want their money ASAP and are putting quantity over quality

MFDOOM1983

The next AC will probably have Ezio join the Spanish Conquestators and ravage a Mayan village and change their calenders to have the world in in 2015 so Ubisoft can still crank out a few more games :P

If that were true Mario and Pokemon would have ended long ago.vashkey

You let me know when Mario and Pokemon had two or so releases in a given year like Guitar Hero did. :roll:

Super Mario 64- 1996

Super Mario Sunshine- 2002

Super Mario Galaxy- 2007

Super Mario Galaxy 2- 2010

:roll:

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

CRUSHER88

Thats what i was thinking. Blizz has done nothing wrong here with WoW. Plus they give us free updates which contain new containt and other things.

Thats just Activisions business model. Squeeze everything as fast as you can.

Thyre a short-sighted company. I dont think Kotick and the gang expect to stay for long

shutdown_202

Thats just Activisions business model. Squeeze everything as fast as you can.

Thyre a short-sighted company. I dont think Kotick and the gang expect to stay for long

While I do agree, I think that the music game market became pretty saturated, too. This didn't help the GH franchise.

Guitar Hero was better than Rock Band, milked or not.

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Da_lil_PimP

I just despise Activision is all. Anything associated with them can go to hell for all I care, good or bad. That and WoW is just as much an unhealthy addiction than CoD is.

I thought we already knew this.

There's a reason I love Epic's games.

Something I can actually agree with that douchebag about.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

DudeNtheRoom

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

DudeNtheRoom

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

While I do agree, I think that the music game market became pretty saturated, too. This didn't help the GH franchise.

clone01

Guitar Hero was better than Rock Band, milked or not.

StealthMonkey4

Luckily, that incorrect opinion is in the minority. You do realize that the series from Guitar Hero 3 onward was the leftover scraps from the franchise Harmonix created, right?

Give it a few years and the'll reboot the series so they can start to milk the franchise all over again. I'm worried what fate will be fall NeverSoft??? They were forced to spend all their time on GH when Acti removed them from the series they created Tony Hawk. Are they going to be forced in to developing CoD game's now??? Maybe after Acti kills of CoD they'll can bring back all their dead milked franchise into one super mutated game and create a completely new genre, Call of Tony the Guitar Hero's pro skating duty and then milk that to death for five more years!!!

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Guitar Hero was better than Rock Band, milked or not.

Dire_Weasel

Luckily, that incorrect opinion is in the minority. You do realize that the series from Guitar Hero 3 onward was the leftover scraps from the franchise Harmonix created, right?

I'd say majority of people enjoy Guitar Hero, maybe not here though, Rock Band just feels awful to play, the guitar is terrible, and the song selection is bad.

He's pretty much spot on. They've milked those games to hell and back and now nobody cares for them. I just wish that would happen to the CoD and WoW franchise. I wish Activision would crash and burn.

Crossel777

How has WoW been milked?

Its on its 3rd expansion since 2005, thats 1 expansion for every 2 years.

Thank you, Captain Obvious?