Close to 300 people working on Metal Gear Solid 4 (56k=pretty screenies)

who cares how it looks, MGS gameplay is stale and the storyline isn't even fit for manga --- or maybe just fit enough for manga, heh.

who cares how it looks, MGS gameplay is stale and the storyline isn't even fit for manga --- or maybe just fit enough for manga, heh.

 

3picuri3

PS3 owners, MGS fans (myself included), people that are interested in the PS3 or MGS, and Kojima.

And have you really played any of the MGS games? If you did, you'd know that the storytelling is one of MGS's strongest points.

I'm sure the team will be paid well :lol:

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

MGS3 -- 3.96 million sold (115 million PS2s)

Attach rate -- 1 game sold for every 27 PS2s :lol:

Development team for MGS4 --- 300 people

PS3s sold --- 3.28 million

If less than 4 million MGS3 discs sold for 115 million PS2s, then how do you think MGS4 will sell with only 3.28 million PS3s :lol:

Ok, to be fair...by the time MGS4 releases, there may be a whopping 7 million PS3s at this rate :lol:

MGS2 is the best selling of the MGS franchise. Over 6 million were sold. That is 1 for every 20 PS2s

Let's say there are 7 million PS3s...7 million / 20 = 350,000 MGS4 discs sold :lol:

But the PS3 has a longer life than that! Ok...let's say PS3 reaches 20 million. 1 million MGS4 discs sold.

MGS is not nearly as popular as cows believe it is...

And with a development team of 300, and a possibility that MGS4 may barely only break the 1 million sold barrier, that is not all that great...

AvIdGaMeR444

 120million PS2s were not sold by the time MGS2 was released. It was actually around 20-25million when it sold nearly 4 million in the first 6 months in NA, JP, and EU.

Your attach rate is ridiculous. Just because a console sells over 100mil does not mean 50% of those ppl should buy the game in order for it to be "popular". not everyone are into Stealth action games, and MGS is NOT the only good franchise on the PS.

Resistance broke 1mil already despite the low PS3 sales and the genre unpopularity on the console. Its a brand-new IP that did nothing special, yet it sold that much in the first 5months? Interesting?  

 Last, who gives a crap how much the game sells. Okami didnt break 500k. Neither did SotC. Yet both games are considered to be some of the best in history. Not Sony fans words, these are critics and developers words. 

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

I'm sure the team will be paid well :lol:

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

MGS3 -- 3.96 million sold (115 million PS2s)

Attach rate -- 1 game sold for every 27 PS2s :lol:

Development team for MGS4 --- 300 people

PS3s sold --- 3.28 million

If less than 4 million MGS3 discs sold for 115 million PS2s, then how do you think MGS4 will sell with only 3.28 million PS3s :lol:

Ok, to be fair...by the time MGS4 releases, there may be a whopping 7 million PS3s at this rate :lol:

MGS2 is the best selling of the MGS franchise. Over 6 million were sold. That is 1 for every 20 PS2s

Let's say there are 7 million PS3s...7 million / 20 = 350,000 MGS4 discs sold :lol:

But the PS3 has a longer life than that! Ok...let's say PS3 reaches 20 million. 1 million MGS4 discs sold.

MGS is not nearly as popular as cows believe it is...

And with a development team of 300, and a possibility that MGS4 may barely only break the 1 million sold barrier, that is not all that great...

bkslayer

120million PS2s were not sold by the time MGS2 was released. It was actually around 20-25million when it sold nearly 4 million in the first 6 months in NA, JP, and EU.

Your attach rate is ridiculous. Just because a console sells over 100mil does not mean 50% of those ppl should buy the game in order for it to be "popular". not everyone are into Stealth action games, and MGS is NOT the only good franchise on the PS.

Resistance broke 1mil already despite the low PS3 sales and the genre unpopularity on the console. Its a brand-new IP that did nothing special, yet it sold that much in the first 5months? Interesting?

Last, who gives a crap how much the game sells. Okami didnt break 500k. Neither did SotC. Yet both games are considered to be some of the best in history. Not Sony fans words, these are critics and developers words.

ownage approved., but you really didn't have to bring back this thread. And why are there halo 3 screenshots everywhere?

300+...honefull the MP will be better this time around. 

Just so you all know, in the history of all MGS games, Kojima splits the consoles power in this way: (ill provide a link if any of you dont believe its true)

33% for gameplay (AI, etc)

33% sound and music

33% for graphics

Now go back and look at MGS2 and 3, and tell me if the 33% of the weak PS2 hardware can produce something that good. imagine the PS3.

Stop judging these screenshots, they are there just so you get the general idea of the game and what Kojima is trying to  do with the camo.

Resistance sold because none could ... resist, ok ? It was the ONLY game !!! On 360 multiple games sell HUGE, this is what makes its attach rate huge, not 1-2 game selling well

Plus there is no way around the fact that PS3 by middle 2008 will have 8.000.000 console sold MAX, when 360 will have 20.000.000+ and a HUGE attach rate 2-3x that of PS3

Now if you think any devleoper would ignore that, you are dillusional, Square brok already, with Lost Remnant and the sure now FF13 and Star Ocean that will follow after PS3 version probably

xbox couldnt handle theese graphics

and its a FACT that snakes camo could only be done with the Cell 

LawLo_O

is that you, yo_foo?

Resistance sold because none could ... resist, ok ? It was the ONLY game !!! On 360 multiple games sell HUGE, this is what makes its attach rate huge, not 1-2 game selling well

Plus there is no way around the fact that PS3 by middle 2008 will have 8.000.000 console sold MAX, when 360 will have 20.000.000+ and a HUGE attach rate 2-3x that of PS3

Now if you think any devleoper would ignore that, you are dillusional, Square brok already, with Lost Remnant and the sure now FF13 and Star Ocean that will follow after PS3 version probably

greg_splicer

you make it seem as if FFXI wasn't on 360? You make it seem as if MGS2: Substance wasn't on xbox? There is no denying that 360 and ps3 sales have been dropping monthly, but PS3 is still selling faster than 360! :|

I don't know what your point is, but as of now till Kojima says so MGS4 will remain exclusive.  

Resistance sold because none could ... resist, ok ? It was the ONLY game !!! On 360 multiple games sell HUGE, this is what makes its attach rate huge, not 1-2 game selling well

Plus there is no way around the fact that PS3 by middle 2008 will have 8.000.000 console sold MAX, when 360 will have 20.000.000+ and a HUGE attach rate 2-3x that of PS3

Now if you think any devleoper would ignore that, you are dillusional, Square brok already, with Lost Remnant and the sure now FF13 and Star Ocean that will follow after PS3 version probably

greg_splicer

Of course resistance sold because of that. but again, you think it actually sold PS3s? MGS will thats for sure.

you can quote yourself on the "8mil max by mid-2008". with sequels to some of the most popular franchises for the ps2 coming at the end of the year, you can be sure it will break 10mil by christmas. you can quote me on that.

Again, its not up to the developer to choose which platforms to work on CUZ OF SALES, thats the pulisher. and please, a publisher knows alot more than any of us do. Square did not break, they even said last year they were developing for all next gen consoles, so theres "no one winner".  

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Resistance sold because none could ... resist, ok ? It was the ONLY game !!! On 360 multiple games sell HUGE, this is what makes its attach rate huge, not 1-2 game selling well

Plus there is no way around the fact that PS3 by middle 2008 will have 8.000.000 console sold MAX, when 360 will have 20.000.000+ and a HUGE attach rate 2-3x that of PS3

Now if you think any devleoper would ignore that, you are dillusional, Square brok already, with Lost Remnant and the sure now FF13 and Star Ocean that will follow after PS3 version probably

Adrian_Cloud

you make it seem as if FFXI wasn't on 360? You make it seem as if MGS2: Substance wasn't on xbox? There is no denying that 360 and ps3 sales have been dropping monthly, but PS3 is still selling faster than 360! :|

I don't know what your point is, but as of now till Kojima says so MGS4 will remain exclusive.  

PS3 sells ... faster ? Whre isthat, in US i have numbers showing 200.000 360 and 120.000 if not lower PS3 sold last month

I believe MGS4 will remain timed excluisve for LONG, to the point that it might never come, BUT FF13 is defonatly a sure bet now, and aain if PS3 sells like that in Japan for long, there is no way MGS4 and FF13 remain exclusive

At least MGS4 devs have said that they will make it only on PS3, Square never said that for FF13, for OBVIOUS reasons

As for ... 10.000.000 PS3 by christmas ..... with Lair, R&C and Heavely Sword the only games to get until march 2008, i can tell you the PS3 numbers sold easilly

Japan

10.000/week = 40.000/month  for 8 motnhs = 320.000 units in Japan, add 2 months for holiday (let's say it sells double there), we are at 400.000 in Japan

UK, 150.000/month, is that ok ? Let's say 1.5 million more in Europe

And 140.000/month in US, for let's say 10 months to cover holiday again = 1.500.000 IN US

Now it is at 4.000.000 + 3.500.000 = 7.500.000 PS3 MAX by 2007 holiday, and i have inflated liek hell, then sales drop hugly as always, by middle 2008 it might go to 9-10 million inflated always, in fact if any games are delayed will be far lower

xbox couldnt handle theese graphics

and its a FACT that snakes camo could only be done with the Cell 

LawLo_O

In a nutshell, yes, and I love your sig pic, it's hilarious! But seriously, unless you want to change the disc every 2 minutes, don't even plead for MGS4 on 360, silly M$ fanboys.

xbox couldnt handle theese graphics

and its a FACT that snakes camo could only be done with the Cell 

LawLo_O

those graphics look like poopoo.

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

I'm sure the team will be paid well :lol:

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php

MGS3 -- 3.96 million sold (115 million PS2s)

Attach rate -- 1 game sold for every 27 PS2s :lol:

Development team for MGS4 --- 300 people

PS3s sold --- 3.28 million

If less than 4 million MGS3 discs sold for 115 million PS2s, then how do you think MGS4 will sell with only 3.28 million PS3s :lol:

Ok, to be fair...by the time MGS4 releases, there may be a whopping 7 million PS3s at this rate :lol:

MGS2 is the best selling of the MGS franchise. Over 6 million were sold. That is 1 for every 20 PS2s

Let's say there are 7 million PS3s...7 million / 20 = 350,000 MGS4 discs sold :lol:

But the PS3 has a longer life than that! Ok...let's say PS3 reaches 20 million. 1 million MGS4 discs sold.

MGS is not nearly as popular as cows believe it is...

And with a development team of 300, and a possibility that MGS4 may barely only break the 1 million sold barrier, that is not all that great...

bkslayer

 120million PS2s were not sold by the time MGS2 was released. It was actually around 20-25million when it sold nearly 4 million in the first 6 months in NA, JP, and EU.

Your attach rate is ridiculous. Just because a console sells over 100mil does not mean 50% of those ppl should buy the game in order for it to be "popular". not everyone are into Stealth action games, and MGS is NOT the only good franchise on the PS.

Resistance broke 1mil already despite the low PS3 sales and the genre unpopularity on the console. Its a brand-new IP that did nothing special, yet it sold that much in the first 5months? Interesting?  

 Last, who gives a crap how much the game sells. Okami didnt break 500k. Neither did SotC. Yet both games are considered to be some of the best in history. Not Sony fans words, these are critics and developers words. 

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

who cares how it looks, MGS gameplay is stale and the storyline isn't even fit for manga --- or maybe just fit enough for manga, heh.

 

Technoweirdo

PS3 owners, MGS fans (myself included), people that are interested in the PS3 or MGS, and Kojima.

And have you really played any of the MGS games? If you did, you'd know that the storytelling is one of MGS's strongest points.

That is madness!!! :o

I want to see something new. :(
foxhound_fox

This is madness??? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAA!