COD and Halo are so hated here. That can only mean one thing.

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#1 jimmypsn
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Best games ever. Do you concur?

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#2 BigBoss255
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Anything overrated deserves hate, I don't hate Halo 3 (online, sp suked) or COD 4 because they were good games. Black Ops and Reach are garbage though.
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#3 Master_ShakeXXX
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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

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#5 full_disclosure
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Best fps's around yes....The way it's looking KZ3 will be right with them now. If they tweaked the controls right. That's all KZ2 was missing to be right with them.

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#6 Kiyobear
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The orignial CoD was brilliant but it's been down hill since then. I've enjoyed Halo CE but I don't hate the sequels. They aren't my kind of game. CoD is grabage now, and the worst kind of game.

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#7 Teuf_
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Well if it's popular it's automatically bad. Everyone knows that. :P

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#8 lafiro93
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Everything good in life is hated....

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#9 Jebus213
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Most of the popular games are rehashed garbage and never offer anything new to the table.

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#10 Kiyobear
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Everything good in life is hated....

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Yeah, that just isn't true. In fact, this makes no sense at all so I assume I missed the joke.

Just because something is popular doesn't make it good, either.

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#11 NaveedLife
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Halo deserves a lot of recognition, although not AS MUCH as it got. CoD deserved SOME recognition, but after 4 it seemed to get worse and the series is hardly changing. CoD can rot for all I care, but Halo is indeed a solid and fun FPS to play that if it was on PS3 or PC I would buy. Not my FAVORITE FPS, but no doubt a keeper.

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#12 dvalo9
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halo is rarely hated on here, there is too much backlash when it happens.
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#13 dragonfly110
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Idk I love all the Halo's except for 3(so disapppointing, barely looked better then 1 and 2 and lame campaign was lame). But I hate every Cod except for W@W.

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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

Master_ShakeXXX
Are you kidding? MGS4 isn't even the best MGS game ever made :P It is damn good though.
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#15 XenoLair
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I can guess that Halo is hated cause its a 360 exclusive so some people without a 360 feel the need to spit all over it. Its sad really, every platform has some good exclusives and even when those are getting rare on 360, people still won't let the console have a few exclusives for itself. Its an enjoyable game, a game I wish was at least on PC aswell so more people could enjoy it.

Call of duty? That just reminded me of this little video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbTtsezso4Q

I don't know why its hated. I enjoy the games to some extent, I dont see why other FPS's would be any better... as long as you have fun it doesnt mater which game it is. Pupular things tend to have more haters so maybe thats something?

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#16 theuncharted34
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the halo games are great. call of duty on the other hand, is a terrible, milked, overdone, substanceless franchise.

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#17 theuncharted34
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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

Master_ShakeXXX

It isn't that good, but it's the second best ps3 game if you ask me.

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#18 SpArKs424
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Halo is Great been Gaming it for 10 years .

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#19 bleehum
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No, and I hate the train of thought that people hate on certain games because it's "cool."
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#20 jg4xchamp
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No. System Wars whines, ******, moans about countless crap. They do however deserve all the love in the world for pissing off System Wars. Bless em :]
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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

Master_ShakeXXX

Well said.

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#22 I-Doomzday-I
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Why does everyone hate the Halo 3 campaign? I actually really enjoyed it, more than the MP.

Why does Black Ops get hated on as well? It's actually balanced unlike WaW/MW2 and the maps are much better than WaW/MW2. I also only played the PS3 version which is supposed to be the worst version. Seems like people are just hating on it because it has Call of Duty on the front cover.

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Why does everyone hate the Halo 3 campaign? I actually really enjoyed it, more than the MP.

Why does Black Ops get hated on as well? It's actually balanced unlike WaW/MW2 and the maps are much better than WaW/MW2. I also only played the PS3 version which is supposed to be the worst version. Seems like people are just hating on it because it has Call of Duty on the front cover.

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SPOILERS FOR THE 7 PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FINISH HALO THREE BY NOW!!!!!



Anticlimactic ending

The Guilty Spark Boss fight at the end is stupid

The ending warthog sequence just lacked the umph and appeal the first game had

Cortana= That level sucks

All the flood levels in general. The flood has been in 3 Halo games, and in all 3 of them they were never fun to fight. Dedicating the final stretch to them was the single stupidest decision Bungie could have made. The Flood were at their best when they were a third party in your fight against covenant like in Halo 1.

Schizophernic level design: It's just all over the place. For every good mission in Halo 3(Tsavo Highway, The Storm, Sierra 117, Ark, Covenant) there is one that is either equally mediocre(Flood, Crow's Nest, Halo) or a benchmark for all things awful(Cortana)

It's too similar to Halo 2, and at that point the formula was getting hella stale.

All the work they did on Arbiter in Halo 2 was essentially for nothing. He might as well have not even been in the series with how he was such a non factor at the end.

Throw in halo's other cobwebs of weak gunplay, over blaoted weapons list, moronic friendly AI, and some of the most mediocre story telling the medium has to offer and you have a storm of reasons people tend to dislike the game. Personally it was a solid experience for all the good missions, but it's such a missed opportunity.

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#24 streetridaz
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Can't understand for the life of me what people like about Halo. COD is a good game but is a little over rated.

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#25 Silverbond
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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

Master_ShakeXXX

Wrong on two things: MGS4 isn't that hated and it isn't the best game ever made.

But you like Vanquish so I can forgive this. :)

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#26 mike_on_mic
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No. That was my shortest post, ahhh, I blew it :(
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#27 mitu123
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I rarely see Halo get hated on.

Master_ShakeXXX

You have obviously missed those Halo hate threads. It's bashed on graphics, gameplay, being generic and a rehash, weak campaigns, no perks/killstreaks in multiplayer, complaints about the community, sales, story, etc.

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#28 Kiyobear
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I rarely see Halo get hated on.

mitu123

You have obviously missed those Halo hate threads. It's bashed on graphics, gameplay, being generic and a rehash, weak campaigns, no perks/killstreaks in multiplayer, complaints about the community, sales, story, etc.

Perks and Kill Streaks are for the unwashed masses.

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#29 The_AI
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Half-Life 2 and Mass Effect 2 exist, so your theory is flawed.

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#30 I-Doomzday-I
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Why does everyone hate the Halo 3 campaign? I actually really enjoyed it, more than the MP.

Why does Black Ops get hated on as well? It's actually balanced unlike WaW/MW2 and the maps are much better than WaW/MW2. I also only played the PS3 version which is supposed to be the worst version. Seems like people are just hating on it because it has Call of Duty on the front cover.

jg4xchamp

SPOILERS FOR THE 7 PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FINISH HALO THREE BY NOW!!!!!



Anticlimactic ending

The Guilty Spark Boss fight at the end is stupid

The ending warthog sequence just lacked the umph and appeal the first game had

Cortana= That level sucks

All the flood levels in general. The flood has been in 3 Halo games, and in all 3 of them they were never fun to fight. Dedicating the final stretch to them was the single stupidest decision Bungie could have made. The Flood were at their best when they were a third party in your fight against covenant like in Halo 1.

Schizophernic level design: It's just all over the place. For every good mission in Halo 3(Tsavo Highway, The Storm, Sierra 117, Ark, Covenant) there is one that is either equally mediocre(Flood, Crow's Nest, Halo) or a benchmark for all things awful(Cortana)

It's too similar to Halo 2, and at that point the formula was getting hella stale.

All the work they did on Arbiter in Halo 2 was essentially for nothing. He might as well have not even been in the series with how he was such a non factor at the end.

Throw in halo's other cobwebs of weak gunplay, over blaoted weapons list, moronic friendly AI, and some of the most mediocre story telling the medium has to offer and you have a storm of reasons people tend to dislike the game. Personally it was a solid experience for all the good missions, but it's such a missed opportunity.

Yeah you have a point. I thought Halo 2 was the weakest of the trilogy though.

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#31 Razor-Lazor
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Anything overrated deserves hate,BigBoss255
The Dark Knight doesn't deserve hate.
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#32 StealthMonkey4
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Halo isn't really hated on.

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#33 fabz_95
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Both franchises get a little hate but I definitely wouldn't say they're hated by SW, especially the Halo franchise. The COD series has been great fun, it's just getting a little stale now. I for one have always loved the Halo games, just wish I had a system where I could play the newer ones :P.
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#34 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="I-Doomzday-I"]

Why does everyone hate the Halo 3 campaign? I actually really enjoyed it, more than the MP.

Why does Black Ops get hated on as well? It's actually balanced unlike WaW/MW2 and the maps are much better than WaW/MW2. I also only played the PS3 version which is supposed to be the worst version. Seems like people are just hating on it because it has Call of Duty on the front cover.

I-Doomzday-I

SPOILERS FOR THE 7 PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FINISH HALO THREE BY NOW!!!!!



Anticlimactic ending

The Guilty Spark Boss fight at the end is stupid

The ending warthog sequence just lacked the umph and appeal the first game had

Cortana= That level sucks

All the flood levels in general. The flood has been in 3 Halo games, and in all 3 of them they were never fun to fight. Dedicating the final stretch to them was the single stupidest decision Bungie could have made. The Flood were at their best when they were a third party in your fight against covenant like in Halo 1.

Schizophernic level design: It's just all over the place. For every good mission in Halo 3(Tsavo Highway, The Storm, Sierra 117, Ark, Covenant) there is one that is either equally mediocre(Flood, Crow's Nest, Halo) or a benchmark for all things awful(Cortana)

It's too similar to Halo 2, and at that point the formula was getting hella stale.

All the work they did on Arbiter in Halo 2 was essentially for nothing. He might as well have not even been in the series with how he was such a non factor at the end.

Throw in halo's other cobwebs of weak gunplay, over blaoted weapons list, moronic friendly AI, and some of the most mediocre story telling the medium has to offer and you have a storm of reasons people tend to dislike the game. Personally it was a solid experience for all the good missions, but it's such a missed opportunity.

Yeah you have a point. I thought Halo 2 was the weakest of the trilogy though.

It is. However, Halo 3 got hyped as the second coming of christ. So when it failed to live up to the hype for some people it got a major backlash for it. Obviously some of it comes down to fanboyism, hatred for popularity, and people mistaking the concept of "I don't like it" to "it sucks". Just that there is also a crowd that is more annoyed by some of the set backs, especially because of how it was hyped.

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#35 rybe1025
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Many on system wars think they are trendy and cool to hate on popular games.
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#36 lamprey263
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if only 10 people know about X game and 2 people love it, 3 people enjoy it, 2 people don't care, 2 people didn't like it, 1 person didn't like it and spends his days going into forums badmouthing it, you're probably never ever going to run across the comments of that one individual that hates game X, but if game Y sells 10 million copies, and if you have the same ratios 2 million people love it, 3 million enjoyed it, 2 million don't care, 2 million didn't like it, and 1 million go on forums badmouthing it, you're most definitely going to run into comments of people badmouthing game Y
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#37 VALikimlav
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I love Halo and I loved Call of Duty before it got so popular with Call of Duty 4. Halo is still among my favorites, while I don't really like Call of Duty as much now.
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#38 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Yeah, OP, excellent logic here. Then Haze might be the best game ever.

CoD1 and UO are nuce tho.

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#39 EliteM0nk3y
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If you hate Halo then you have never MP with your friends, it is epic like that. Although I do know that not everyone likes Halo for what ever reason. CoD is a victim of it's own success. CoD 4 was so good that there was no way it could make that standard in it's next games.
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#40 SHR3DD3D
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I rarely see Halo get hated on. COD is hated on in just about every thread, and for good reason. The only game that logic truly applies to correctly is MGS4, which gets hated on a lot in System Wars but is in fact the greatest game ever made.

Master_ShakeXXX

You must seriously be blind. :lol:

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#41 tomarlyn
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As a Halo fan I couldn't be bothered to finish Reach's campaign. I liked what they tried to do, but other than the bouncing mad rabbit on drugs enemy AI it was just boring. If the gameplay in the next Halo is the same it had better look like Crysis. COD and Killzone have been much more appealing this gen. Sales are pointless here.
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#42 Lto_thaG
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It's funny how some users take it so close to heart when I tell them I'm buying the new COD.

C'mon.The games are AA/AAA rated across the board and they sell millions.

Yeah,weird that I like those games.

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#43 ArchoNils2
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I love that logic, so everything that gets hate is fantastic, Haze is the best FPS ever made confirmed?

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#44 Gue1
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Oh yeah and Lindsay Lohan is the best actress and singer ever!

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#45 cainetao11
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Best? I don't have the authority to name a best anything. But Halo is one of my favorite series, with Halo 3, ODST, Reach being among my favorite games this gen. Thing is I know that is my preference and don't state it as if it applies to anyone but myself.
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#47 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="I-Doomzday-I"]

Why does everyone hate the Halo 3 campaign? I actually really enjoyed it, more than the MP.

Why does Black Ops get hated on as well? It's actually balanced unlike WaW/MW2 and the maps are much better than WaW/MW2. I also only played the PS3 version which is supposed to be the worst version. Seems like people are just hating on it because it has Call of Duty on the front cover.

jg4xchamp

SPOILERS FOR THE 7 PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FINISH HALO THREE BY NOW!!!!!



Anticlimactic ending

The Guilty Spark Boss fight at the end is stupid

The ending warthog sequence just lacked the umph and appeal the first game had

Cortana= That level sucks

All the flood levels in general. The flood has been in 3 Halo games, and in all 3 of them they were never fun to fight. Dedicating the final stretch to them was the single stupidest decision Bungie could have made. The Flood were at their best when they were a third party in your fight against covenant like in Halo 1.

Schizophernic level design: It's just all over the place. For every good mission in Halo 3(Tsavo Highway, The Storm, Sierra 117, Ark, Covenant) there is one that is either equally mediocre(Flood, Crow's Nest, Halo) or a benchmark for all things awful(Cortana)

It's too similar to Halo 2, and at that point the formula was getting hella stale.

All the work they did on Arbiter in Halo 2 was essentially for nothing. He might as well have not even been in the series with how he was such a non factor at the end.

Throw in halo's other cobwebs of weak gunplay, over blaoted weapons list, moronic friendly AI, and some of the most mediocre story telling the medium has to offer and you have a storm of reasons people tend to dislike the game. Personally it was a solid experience for all the good missions, but it's such a missed opportunity.

while i agree that the guilt spark fight was dumb(it could have been done in the cutscene) the warthog run at the end is just fantastic, just as much as the first. You literally feel compelled to keep going, while in the first, apart from the timer, you didn't feel it. And in halo 3 you have a competent gunner as well. Oh and yes, Cortana is bad.

The flood were good when you were fighting the covenant as well, but floodgate wasn't an awful level. You have to take into consideration that halo 3 was the first halo for many people, so in there eyes that flood was new and awesome, and floodgate was an excellent introduction(not as good as CEs though).

As for the level design, its good in all levels except Cortana really. crow's nest was a good introduction, and halo really gave the feeling of "finish the fight". The problem i had was the difficulty being all over the place. Sierra 117 is one of the hardest levels i've ever played, but the next level, crows nest was a stroll in the park.

And how is it similar to halo 2? :? Halo 2 had the arbiter levels that relied on a certain amount of stealth(at first), and the ****c MC levels. It was certainly more of a losing battle, as its the only halo game were the "bad guys" win. as Earth is losing the flood is all-powerful, and Cortana is lost. halo 3 , near the end. has a much lighter appeal. And, you're right, to a certain extent, about the Arbiter being useless in halo 3. yes, you never play as him, but he provides as a good co-op player alone or with a friend. He kind of represents he Elites as a whole, and how they have yet to truly trust humanity, but fight against Truth nonetheless. Also, in the later editions, he's an excellent Ai buddy(probably the only friendly AI who's actually useful in the whole halo series). Have you seen in the last level? he gets out his sword and rips the flood to pieces.

As for the weak gunplay, i have no idea what you're talking about other than bad sound effects. And how is a big weapons list a bad thing?

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#48 razgriz_101
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Best games ever. Do you concur?

jimmypsn

Cod sucked badly after WaW imo.It became bland,flogged like a dead horse and hardly pushes forward.

Halo on the other hand is a GOOD game.Reach is the first FPS i can play online without thinking since CoD4 cause its fun,simple yet deep and has more customisation than you can wave your stick at.Also for once its an FPS where camping seems to mean you get destroyed.

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#49 tommyas
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Best games ever. Do you concur?

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CoD is played by lots of people for a reason. Many people dont like it for a reason.
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SW is full of non-conformists.