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#1 butisitbluray
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Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

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#2 mitu123
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COD1-3 sold well so this would had too.

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#3 metroid5
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LOL WUT?
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#4 Jebus213
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Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

butisitbluray

and perks. They also need to do something about nade spam. Make a REAL Cod PC game. Actually balance the spawn system and maps for 64 players like in cod2. Put actual recoil in the guns again. No more attachments or custom classes. I want dedicated weapons back.

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#5 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

Jebus213

and perks. They also need to do something about nade spam. Make a REAL Cod PC game. Actually balance the spawn system and maps for 64 players like in cod2. Put actual recoil in the guns again. No more attachments or custom classes. I want dedicated weapons back.

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

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#6 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

markinthedark

and perks. They also need to do something about nade spam. Make a REAL Cod PC game. Actually balance the spawn system and maps for 64 players like in cod2. Put actual recoil in the guns again. No more attachments or custom classes. I want dedicated weapons back.

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

No...

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#7 Crimsader
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Like anybody cares about killstreaks...
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#8 Jurassic85
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LOL people are CONSTANTLY complaining the COD had become less innovative and that every game is exactly like the last one. Now you guys are saying that they should take out some of the things that they recently added into the game? Give me a break. Personally I think that custom classes are essential. People like to play in different ways. Sure they could have pre-set sniping, run and gun, or stealth classes, but isn't it more fun to put the classes together yourself? I think perks are great, and LOL at the comment that there needs to be more recoil in the guns.
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#9 Randoggy
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^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.
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#10 ahnzz
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the best cod was cod4modernwarfare

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#11 NeonNinja
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It'll sell regardless of what they take out or add. Activision are in a position (that rhymes :P) where they can do anything to the series, including improving it, and it will still sell. But they seem content to leave it as is and sell it.

If people are buying might as well put the minimum effort into it right?

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#12 markinthedark
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^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.Randoggy

i imagine it would add more randomness to the aim?

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#13 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

markinthedark

and perks. They also need to do something about nade spam. Make a REAL Cod PC game. Actually balance the spawn system and maps for 64 players like in cod2. Put actual recoil in the guns again. No more attachments or custom c1asses. I want dedicated weapons back.

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

Have you played COD1-2?

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#14 eboyishere
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there was a cod b4 perks/killstreaks....so its possible...but seeing how activision loves to abuse a formula every year(guitar hero as well) i dont see it happening

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#15 Randoggy
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.markinthedark

i imagine it would add more randomness to the aim?

That's recoil for you, still fail to see how adding more would be bad.
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#16 DreamCryotank
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I love how COD is selling by the boatload, and people here somehow think they know what's best. :lol:

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#17 Jebus213
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LOL people are CONSTANTLY complaining the COD had become less innovative and that every game is exactly like the last one. Now you guys are saying that they should take out some of the things that they recently added into the game? Give me a break. Personally I think that custom classes are essential. People like to play in different ways. Sure they could have pre-set sniping, run and gun, or stealth classes, but isn't it more fun to put the classes together yourself? I think perks are great, and LOL at the comment that there needs to be more recoil in the guns. Jurassic85

This is way better. Killstreaks, custom classes, etc. aren't inovative.

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#18 Jebus213
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I love how COD is selling by the boatload, and people here somehow think they know what's best. :lol:

DreamCryotank

It's quality not quantity. All because they make epic looking trailers doesn't mean I need to buy it and say its best thing ever made.

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#19 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

and perks. They also need to do something about nade spam. Make a REAL Cod PC game. Actually balance the spawn system and maps for 64 players like in cod2. Put actual recoil in the guns again. No more attachments or custom c1asses. I want dedicated weapons back.

mitu123

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

Have you played COD1-2?

long time ago. I dont really play the new COD games much either though.... I was more addressing things like how he wants no attachments or custom c1asses.... which is what i thought barebones was.

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#20 Jurassic85
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^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.Randoggy
You're right, they should add more recoil to the guns so that there will be more whining about how "you got lucky when you killed me!!" Skilled players will complain that it adds too much balance to the game and noobs will say that it makes the game to hard to learn. Yeah, they should make the guns more random by adding higher recoil.
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#21 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

markinthedark

Have you played COD1-2?

long time ago. I dont really play the new COD games much either though.... I was more addressing things like how he wants no attachments or custom c1asses.... which is what i thought barebones was.

What I highlighted in red is what recent COD games lack, though the 1st in red was nade spam which is a problem. I don't mind custom classes, but fix what's in red as well.

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#22 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.Jurassic85
You're right, they should add more recoil to the guns so that there will be more whining about how "you got lucky when you killed me!!" Skilled players will complain that it adds too much balance to the game and noobs will say that it makes the game to hard to learn. Yeah, they should make the guns more random by adding higher recoil.

What?

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#23 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Randoggy"]^^ What's wrong with having more recoil in the guns. COD's guns feel like toys.Randoggy

i imagine it would add more randomness to the aim?

That's recoil for you, still fail to see how adding more would be bad.

well i know in reach, the recoil/bloom effect allows noobs to spam DMRs and get lucky kills sometimes over better players that try to pace their shots... so alot of folks dont like it. Seems like fps players like to keep luck out of the equation as much as possible, people dont like dying to randomness/luck.

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#24 Randoggy
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Thank you Jebus213 for typing what I was thinking.
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#25 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

i imagine it would add more randomness to the aim?

markinthedark

That's recoil for you, still fail to see how adding more would be bad.

well i know in reach, the recoil/bloom effect allows noobs to spam DMRs and get lucky kills sometimes over better players that try to pace their shots... so alot of folks dont like it. Seems like fps players like to keep luck out of the equation as much as possible, people dont like dying to luck.

I don't remember any halo game having recoil.....Not everybody nows what DMR's are.

Also recoil is not bloom? wut?

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#26 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Randoggy"] That's recoil for you, still fail to see how adding more would be bad.Jebus213

well i know in reach, the recoil/bloom effect allows noobs to spam DMRs and get lucky kills sometimes over better players that try to pace their shots... so alot of folks dont like it. Seems like fps players like to keep luck out of the equation as much as possible, people dont like dying to luck.

I don't remember any halo game have recoil.....Not everybody nows what DMR's are.

Also recoil does not bloom? wut?

thats because the recoil is a new addition to reach, and everyone hates it because it allows for alot of lucky kills.... DMRs are the main weapon in reach for competitive play, semi auto rifles essentially.

and bloom is the term for the graphical representation of the recoil in the reticle.

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#27 Randoggy
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Hey Jebus213, do you have any idea what either of these two guys are going on about?
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#28 Jurassic85
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

i imagine it would add more randomness to the aim?

markinthedark

That's recoil for you, still fail to see how adding more would be bad.

well i know in reach, the recoil/bloom effect allows noobs to spam DMRs and get lucky kills sometimes over better players that try to pace their shots... so alot of folks dont like it. Seems like fps players like to keep luck out of the equation as much as possible, people dont like dying to randomness/luck.

+1
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#29 Jebus213
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Hey Jebus213, do you have any idea what either of these two guys are going on about?Randoggy

Nope, but I'm pretty sure there casual players that just like easy and lazy.

I don't get it...Recoil doesn't coe with bloom and does not make "lucky kills". Besides....I'm talking about the PC side of things.

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#30 Jebus213
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This is what I want: http://www.xfire.com/video/425fdc/

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#31 Randoggy
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This is what I want: http://www.xfire.com/video/425fdc/

Jebus213
How it should be.
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#32 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Hey Jebus213, do you have any idea what either of these two guys are going on about?Jebus213

Nope, but I'm pretty sure there casual players that just like easy and lazy.

I don't get it...Recoil doesn't coe with bloom and does not make "lucky kills". Besides....I'm talking about the PC side of things.

Quake and Unreal Tournament never had recoil, and i dont think i would call those players casual.

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#33 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="Randoggy"]Hey Jebus213, do you have any idea what either of these two guys are going on about?markinthedark

Nope, but I'm pretty sure there casual players that just like easy and lazy.

I don't get it...Recoil doesn't coe with bloom and does not make "lucky kills". Besides....I'm talking about the PC side of things.

Quake and Unreal Tournament never had recoil, and i dont think i would call those players casual.

A twitch shooter having recoil? You can't even reload guns in those games.

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#34 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

This is what I want: http://www.xfire.com/video/425fdc/

Randoggy

How it should be.

I havent played a whole helluva alot of the call of duty series so i dont really know how the different installments compare to one another....

But thats call of duty 2... i would imagine newer guns would naturally have alot less recoil than WW2 guns no?

EDIT: and i was just watching some black ops vids on youtube, and the recoil makes the gun bounce all over the place which i thought you wanted more of. Seems like it would be much easier to correct for and less random if the gun just climbed up in a straight line like that cod2 vid.... so in that case i dont think it would add a ton of randomness to the gameplay. Cant say i really care either way though.

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#35 EndlessPunisher
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

isnt that essentially what the barebones mode is....

markinthedark

Have you played COD1-2?

long time ago. I dont really play the new COD games much either though.... I was more addressing things like how he wants no attachments or custom c1asses.... which is what i thought barebones was.

Barebone modes on BO is pretty much MW, as well as the games below it. You are right about the no attachments. no perks, kill streaks or custom classes.
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#36 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Randoggy"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]

This is what I want: http://www.xfire.com/video/425fdc/

markinthedark

How it should be.

I havent played a whole helluva alot of the call of duty series so i dont really know how the different installments compare to one another....

But thats call of duty 2... i would imagine newer guns would naturally have alot less recoil than WW2 guns no?

EDIT: and i was just watching some black ops vids on youtube, and the recoil makes the gun bounce all over the place which i thought you wanted more of. Seems like it would be much easier to correct for and less random if the gun just climbed up in a straight line like that cod2 vid.... so in that case i dont think it would add a ton of randomness to the gameplay. Cant say i really care either way though.

Well, thats how the MP44 acts in the game. Theres virtually no recoil in Blops...

If you call this recoil then there def something wrong...

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#37 flexin007
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Taking out the perks would be a HUGE improvement...

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#38 JigglyWiggly_
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If there are perks make the best ones available at the begininng like COD4. Killstreaks would be nice to get rid of, or make them very minor. Like COD4 perks but no HELICOPTERS.

For the SP, I want it to have 4x more stupidness and 2x the epicness. I actually digged the MW2 SP because it's so over the top and rediculous.

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#39 fusionhunter
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Make it more realistic.

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#40 cainetao11
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MW3 will sell a ton. I dont care what they do to the MP as I dont play it. I play the campaign and I play Spec Ops. I enjoy the summer blockbuster appeal of the campaign, but will only pay $20-25 for it. That's my take on the series.
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#41 dakan45
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Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

butisitbluray
No killstreaks= no buy I played enough of those generic fps. No thanks.
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#42 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

dakan45

No killstreaks= no buy I played enough of those generic fps. No thanks.

I'm tired of casual games made for the simple minded. Killstreaks don't make the game fun...it's boring and gives the player no challenge.

I got Hardcore MVP the first time I even tried the mode...I even found it way easier then softcore.

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#43 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

Would the new MW3 game sell if they took out the killstreaks!!!

Jebus213

No killstreaks= no buy I played enough of those generic fps. No thanks.

And i am tired of elitists trying to label us as close minded on what is "fun" and refusing the facts. I dont know what i am suposed to be see in this picutre but i bet its like that other crap argument i heard last time, that more players in a server= more fun:roll: More like unbalanced if you ask me. So no, generic fps belong to the past and talking about casual gamers while showing the rercoiless waw is trully laughable. Now THAT game was crap not mw2. Mp was so inbalanced mp40 ownage everywhere.

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#44 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] No killstreaks= no buy I played enough of those generic fps. No thanks.dakan45

And i am tired of elitists trying to label us as close minded on what is "fun" and refusing the facts. I dont know what i am suposed to be see in this picutre but i bet its like that other crap argument i heard last time, that more players in a server= more fun:roll: More like unbalanced if you ask me. So no, generic fps belong to the past and talking about casual gamers while showing the rercoiless waw is trully laughable. Now THAT game was crap not mw2. Mp was so inbalanced mp40 ownage everywhere.

Welcome to PC? Nobody uses the MP40 on the PC version. It's either Type88, PPSH, or tompson+round drum for SMG's. I'm not refusing facts. I'm telling you facts. Killstreaks and perks make the game easy and simple minded. The point of the pic is to show how easy and boring games have become with killstreaks and perks.

and fine you wan't less people? Also theres no balance in Mw2's broken P2P multiplayer.

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#45 mitu123
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126 kills? Wow, impressive.:P

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#46 dakan45
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Pardon me for still not getting the point of the pic and nice job posting the worst cod game to date.
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#47 vashkey
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Yeah, although you'd have plenty of angry fans. Still, angry fans sure didn't seem to effect the success of those fifteen dollar map packs.
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getting high scores on the PC is pretty easy when your playing random noobs(pretty much 90% of the people who play it suck badly). Play any half decent guys and they will give you a challenge, which makes the game even more fun imo. Play COD4 for starters no one really likes W@W, I found W@W to be alright but lost interest after a few hours of play. Though the maps in that game are some of the best IMO.

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#49 Jebus213
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Pardon me for still not getting the point of the pic and nice job posting the worst cod game to date.dakan45

I explained the point of the pic.....Mw2 and blops are the worst cod games to date.

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#50 Console_Gamer93
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Uhhh aren't there gametypes where there aren't any killstreaks/perks already (Barebones)?