combat and stealth: Assassin's Creed: Revelations vs. Batman: Arkham City

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#1 nervmeister
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Which game do you think will be more fun in terms of:

1. Stealth

2. Combat

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#2 el3m2tigre
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Wow these two games focus heavily on those two factors. Ubisoft improved the combat even further on Brotherhood, and Batman Arkham Asylum had some pretty coool combat. Im going with Assassins Creed.

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#3 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Batman does both better. But Assassin's Creed has some other elements (like that huge, huge world) that makes both franchises equal.
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#4 YoshiYogurt
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Batman forces the stealth on you, and often didn't do a good job. (sometimes it was good). Assassin's creed felt very stealthy, and you could often break out of stealth mode if you wanted. I think assassin's creed did it just a little better.
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#5 xxmatt125xx
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Batman on both accounts, plus Brotherhood was the game that went with a similar approach to combat as Arkham Asylum.
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#6 Mozelleple112
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Batman IMO. but AC has been good since the second game came out.

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#7 SquirrelTamer
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1. Batman hands down 2. Batman hands down And this I know without ever havin played a batman game
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#8 Coyful
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The Goddamn Batman
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#9 onewiththegame
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Im not sure what game will be "better" in stealth and combat but I'll be getting Batman day one not sure if I'll be picking up AC

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#10 lamprey263
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Arkham Asylum had an excellent stealth system and a combat system very much like Assassin's Creed in terms of the one button attacks and easy counters, and I think I'll like Arkham City more because of as I imagine the story will be better, I'm kind of sick of the Ezio AC story and am just waiting for them to write him off.
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#11 foxhound_fox
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The stealth is two different beasts (one is hide in the shadows, the other is disappear among the crowd) and the combat has an entirely different focus (one is knockout but not kill, the other is kill everything). It is hard to compare and i'm looking forward to both.
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#12 jer_1
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Arkham City for me, no competition at all.

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#13 TheEroica  Moderator
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good thread... Both games are wildly entertaining and super fun. I actually find both elements in both games superb but with a gun to my head, Id say, Creed is better at stealth or at least more thrilling, and batman is better at combat.

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#14 D-RS
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Both games are amazing , and i am getting both , but i prefer Batman.
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#15 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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batman is better in every way to me
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#16 205212669269561485377169522720
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Unfair comparison since Batman's combat and stealth, (abeit pretty limited in both) are superior by far.:P

I love Assassins Creed mroe than Batman, (which is why I'm getting AC Rev this year and Batman on PC next year), but Batman is the better playing game, plus it's not as automatic. AC has other features which make it more fun to me imo.:P

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#17 Mercenary848
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Batman for both imo, you do not need to kill to get the job done.

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#18 15strong
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Batman, considering Assassin Creed is terrible both combat and stealth. The series really needs massive improvement in these two areas.

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#19 205212669269561485377169522720
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Batman, considering Assassin Creed is terrible both combat and stealth. The series really needs massive improvement in these two areas.

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Which won't probably ever happen with the yearly releases we are getting. It's just trying to become more cinematic now, which works for some games, not every game.:?

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#20 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Assassin's Creed isn't really a stealth game.
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#21 aznfunnyjunker
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I loved Assassin's Creed's stealth, but it was way too easy in combat. Arkham Asylum's combat system was more challenging and was still fun as well.

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#22 starjet905
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[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]1. Batman hands down 2. Batman hands down And this I know without ever havin played a batman game

How can you know without playing? That's fanboyism and/or downright stupidity. Anyway, IMO, combat: AC, stealth: weak on both. I'd go with AC, though, as the whole swinging from gargoyle to gargoyle in order to hide felt so ... dumb. :P
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#23 aaronmullan
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I'm leaning towards Assassin's Creed with this one.
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#24 turtlethetaffer
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Judging by the previos games in each series, they will be very different styIes of games. Comparing them is kinda moot. However, if Arkham Asylum is anything to go by, ACR will have much more content than AA. However both are gonna be awesome, and I will get AA after a price drop.

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#25 Merex760
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Batman does both better than AC. But I like AC for other reasons that makes it the better series for me.
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#26 Funky_Connor
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The stealth and fighting is better in Batman. But in AC stealth and fighting is really good to and the free running is what makes AC the better series to me. Stoked for both games though.

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#27 xOMGITSJASONx
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I like both games so i will have a hard time choosing. For some reason the atmosphere while in stealth and performing combat in Batman seems more visceral and "thick".

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#28 turtlethetaffer
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I like both games so i will have a hard time choosing. For some reason the atmosphere while in stealth and performing combat in Batman seems more visceral and "thick".

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Maybe because in Batman when stealth is required the dudes have guns.

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#29 gam3r333
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Batman Forever

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#30 SquirrelTamer
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[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]1. Batman hands down 2. Batman hands down And this I know without ever havin played a batman gamestarjet905
How can you know without playing? That's fanboyism and/or downright stupidity. Anyway, IMO, combat: AC, stealth: weak on both. I'd go with AC, though, as the whole swinging from gargoyle to gargoyle in order to hide felt so ... dumb. :P

Cause nothing can be worse than Assassin's Creed in those 2 areas. At least judging from ACB
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#31 starjet905
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[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"]1. Batman hands down 2. Batman hands down And this I know without ever havin played a batman gameSquirrelTamer
How can you know without playing? That's fanboyism and/or downright stupidity. Anyway, IMO, combat: AC, stealth: weak on both. I'd go with AC, though, as the whole swinging from gargoyle to gargoyle in order to hide felt so ... dumb. :P

Cause nothing can be worse than Assassin's Creed in those 2 areas. At least judging from ACB

You'll never get the beauty of Assassin's Creed if you just dropped yourself in the middle to begin. That especially applies to those who got it for multiplayer, btw.
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#32 Drakan11
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I think batman does better in both areas, yet oddly enough I think AC is a better game.
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#33 SquirrelTamer
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[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"][QUOTE="starjet905"]How can you know without playing? That's fanboyism and/or downright stupidity. Anyway, IMO, combat: AC, stealth: weak on both. I'd go with AC, though, as the whole swinging from gargoyle to gargoyle in order to hide felt so ... dumb. :Pstarjet905
Cause nothing can be worse than Assassin's Creed in those 2 areas. At least judging from ACB

You'll never get the beauty of Assassin's Creed if you just dropped yourself in the middle to begin. That especially applies to those who got it for multiplayer, btw.

No I have all of them, what I meant was that both combat and stealth has become worse for every game in the series, now to the point where I can't imagine how possibly could be any worse.
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#34 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"] Cause nothing can be worse than Assassin's Creed in those 2 areas. At least judging from ACBSquirrelTamer
You'll never get the beauty of Assassin's Creed if you just dropped yourself in the middle to begin. That especially applies to those who got it for multiplayer, btw.

No I have all of them, what I meant was that both combat and stealth has become worse for every game in the series, now to the point where I can't imagine how possibly could be any worse.

Worse? Good god man.... I doubt you've played it. Anyone who's actually played AC1 can see that it improved GREATLY.

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[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"][QUOTE="starjet905"]You'll never get the beauty of Assassin's Creed if you just dropped yourself in the middle to begin. That especially applies to those who got it for multiplayer, btw.el3m2tigre

No I have all of them, what I meant was that both combat and stealth has become worse for every game in the series, now to the point where I can't imagine how possibly could be any worse.

Worse? Good god man.... I doubt you've played it. Anyone who's actually played AC1 can see that it improved GREATLY.

You mean like that there is absolutely no traces of stealth left and the combat is so unchallenging and easy? It's not even you fightin really. You just press square once and the the game kills 40 bad guys for you.
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#36 WTA2k5
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Well, just going by what AC:B and Batman AA were in terms of those mechanics, I'd say stealth is more fun in the AC games and combat is more fun in Batman.

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Batmam is better in both.
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Easily Batman for both.

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Batman. Simply cause he's the goddamn Batman.
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#41 Sushiglutton
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I think Batman is better in both areas. A challenge mode in Asassin's Creed (more expande than the training in Broterhood) wouldn't work because the gameplay is not nearly as good. AC best gameplay area is the parkour imo, which looks and feels amazingly. Two of my favourite franchises!

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#42 jubino
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I refuse to choose, because part of me believes that Bruce Wayne is part of Ezio's bloodline.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"] Worse? Good god man.... I doubt you've played it. Anyone who's actually played AC1 can see that it improved GREATLY.

You mean like that there is absolutely no traces of stealth left and the combat is so unchallenging and easy? It's not even you fightin really. You just press square once and the the game kills 40 bad guys for you.

well for the SP there is virtually no stealth left at all. MP however is at least 90% stealth. i liked AC1, loved AC2 and was super impressed with AC:B. i will get revelations, just not immediately on release, unless skyrim is a complete failure (which wont happen)

Yeah the MP is great and stealthy. I was talking about the SP. But for me it's like this AC1=AC2>>>>>>>>>ACB. Only the MP was good with ACB IMO
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#44 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"] No I have all of them, what I meant was that both combat and stealth has become worse for every game in the series, now to the point where I can't imagine how possibly could be any worse.SquirrelTamer

Worse? Good god man.... I doubt you've played it. Anyone who's actually played AC1 can see that it improved GREATLY.

You mean like that there is absolutely no traces of stealth left and the combat is so unchallenging and easy? It's not even you fightin really. You just press square once and the the game kills 40 bad guys for you.

Weren't counters in Arkham Asylum far easier (it told you when to counter and enemies could never defend against them)?
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#46 SPYDER0416
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Its a hard choice, but I can kind of pick I guess.

In Assassin's Creed II I remember playing the tombs like I was playing Batman. I'd hide, then kill a sole dude, hide his body, then do it again, unless I could get buy. At this point I might say Batman has the upper hand (since I played ACII like Batman), but ACII has the whole hiding in plain sight aspect and the large open world. There are more ways to avoid enemies and be stealthy and it offers more freedom as well. At the same time though, Batman's maps are perfect for stealth gameplay, with the gadgets and different options all placed together perfectly for some sweet moments, so crashing through a plate glass roof to take down a baddie as you detonate two others who come to investigate can be just as cool as silently destroying a group with a spear and a triple throwing knife throw.

In combat Batman is great, but Brotherhood takes the already good AC combat and adds the Batman chaining, so its hard to say Batman, especially when Batman can't disarm an enemy to use his weapon against him or take three guys out at once with a well held throw of some knives.