Companies who rely on Third Party support to move units will fail.

You're talking about MS?

companies like those who offer free online and better first party games will succeed.Second_Hokage

They seem to be doing alright since they aren't in last place.

If the majority of the PS3's first-party exclusives are so amazing, why aren't more people buying PS3's to play them? Oh, wait.... it's because they are outclassed by multi-platform games.

[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]companies like those who offer free online and better first party games will succeed.RR360DD

TC makes a point to a dergree but fanboys will never understand. Think about it for a sec. How much does ms make Off the sales of cod, battlefield, or even gears? Keep in mind I talking about sales for set game and not what moved consoles. Ms doesn't own these games and even if they have exculsive right like gears ms still isn't footing the bill to develop the whole game. So how much in return do they get then? Hmmmmm! Sony and Nintendo on the other hand own many developers and sign there paycheck also, so there return is much greater then a company relying on third party. Is it a gamble to do something like this? Yes but at the end of the day there defining themselves as a gaming console and not a multimedia Kinect shovelware console. What defines ms? Halo, forza, fable, gears (third party), and Kinect. What defines Sony? Uncharted, god of war, GT,and LBP but theres still your other games in which many could over look but still make money such as wipeout, hot shot golf, resistance, ratchet and clank, motorstorm, plus the future games like last of us, battle royal, beyond ( keep in mind this was my first THIRD party game I mention :p). And we all know what difines Nintendo so I won't bother. All in all ms need to make games that make us say wow that a MS game and right now all they have is halo. FFKi11er

They make money through royalties. And alot of money. Cause they get the money upfront. Say a company orders a million copies of an xbox 3rd party game. Right then and there they pay royalties for a millions copies regardless of if they only sell 500k copies. It's why publishers complain about used games so much.

And if a game costs say $60, $12 of that goes to MS/Sony/Nin. Trust me 3rd party is the way to go if you're one of the big 3. You get a reward for doing nothing.

I would be willing to bet Sony makes more money off of COD than they do Killzone and resistence combined.

[QUOTE="FFKi11er"]TC makes a point to a dergree but fanboys will never understand. Think about it for a sec. How much does ms make Off the sales of cod, battlefield, or even gears? Keep in mind I talking about sales for set game and not what moved consoles. Ms doesn't own these games and even if they have exculsive right like gears ms still isn't footing the bill to develop the whole game. So how much in return do they get then? Hmmmmm! Sony and Nintendo on the other hand own many developers and sign there paycheck also, so there return is much greater then a company relying on third party. Is it a gamble to do something like this? Yes but at the end of the day there defining themselves as a gaming console and not a multimedia Kinect shovelware console. What defines ms? Halo, forza, fable, gears (third party), and Kinect. What defines Sony? Uncharted, god of war, GT,and LBP but theres still your other games in which many could over look but still make money such as wipeout, hot shot golf, resistance, ratchet and clank, motorstorm, plus the future games like last of us, battle royal, beyond ( keep in mind this was my first THIRD party game I mention :p). And we all know what difines Nintendo so I won't bother. All in all ms need to make games that make us say wow that a MS game and right now all they have is halo. FPSfan1985

They make money through royalties. And alot of money. Cause they get the money upfront. Say a company orders a million copies of an xbox 3rd party game. Right then and there they pay royalties for a millions copies regardless of if they only sell 500k copies. It's why publishers complain about used games so much.

And if a game costs say $60, $12 of that goes to MS/Sony/Nin. Trust me 3rd party is the way to go if you're one of the big 3. You get a reward for doing nothing.

I would be willing to bet Sony makes more money off of COD than they do Killzone and resistence combined.

[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]

[QUOTE="FFKi11er"]TC makes a point to a dergree but fanboys will never understand. Think about it for a sec. How much does ms make Off the sales of cod, battlefield, or even gears? Keep in mind I talking about sales for set game and not what moved consoles. Ms doesn't own these games and even if they have exculsive right like gears ms still isn't footing the bill to develop the whole game. So how much in return do they get then? Hmmmmm! Sony and Nintendo on the other hand own many developers and sign there paycheck also, so there return is much greater then a company relying on third party. Is it a gamble to do something like this? Yes but at the end of the day there defining themselves as a gaming console and not a multimedia Kinect shovelware console. What defines ms? Halo, forza, fable, gears (third party), and Kinect. What defines Sony? Uncharted, god of war, GT,and LBP but theres still your other games in which many could over look but still make money such as wipeout, hot shot golf, resistance, ratchet and clank, motorstorm, plus the future games like last of us, battle royal, beyond ( keep in mind this was my first THIRD party game I mention :p). And we all know what difines Nintendo so I won't bother. All in all ms need to make games that make us say wow that a MS game and right now all they have is halo. FFKi11er

They make money through royalties. And alot of money. Cause they get the money upfront. Say a company orders a million copies of an xbox 3rd party game. Right then and there they pay royalties for a millions copies regardless of if they only sell 500k copies. It's why publishers complain about used games so much.

And if a game costs say $60, $12 of that goes to MS/Sony/Nin. Trust me 3rd party is the way to go if you're one of the big 3. You get a reward for doing nothing.

I would be willing to bet Sony makes more money off of COD than they do Killzone and resistence combined.

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this was about Microsoft.

Microsoft is making more money than Sony and is moving more hardware and software.

But yeah, they're gonna fail. That makes perfect sense.

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this was about Microsoft.

Microsoft is making more money than Sony and is moving more hardware and software.

But yeah, they're gonna fail. That makes perfect sense.

The_Game21x

PS2 - most successful console ever.

360 - sitting in a very successful 2nd place.

No.

Those companies have no future, all they do is rely on that one game every year to keep their fans on their console and continue paying for playing it online. Those companies will struggle because they also have like 1 or 2 good first party games, that are not even that great. Those companies also take advantage of their fans by placing Ads all over their home screen. Those companies that refuse to upgrade their disc space will also fail because games are becoming bigger and better and they force you to interchange discs, interruptiong your enjoyment. This is why companies like those who offer free online and better first party games will succeed.Second_Hokage

Yet, with arguably the weakest 1st party support, MS is doing rather well this gen.

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this was about Microsoft.

Microsoft is making more money than Sony and is moving more hardware and software.

But yeah, they're gonna fail. That makes perfect sense.

The_Game21x

You're wrong. If the Xbox were moving more hardware than Sony then the 8 million gap wouldn't be on 2 right now. And the Xbox only sells more software on the US while the PS3 sells the most everyhwere else.

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Software/Global/

You lemmings doesn't get tired of getting owned and living a lie?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this was about Microsoft.

Microsoft is making more money than Sony and is moving more hardware and software.

But yeah, they're gonna fail. That makes perfect sense.

Gue1

You're wrong. If the Xbox were moving more hardware than Sony then the 8 million gap wouldn't be on 2 right now. And the Xbox only sells more software on the US while the PS3 sells the most everyhwere else.

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Software/Global/

You lemmings doesn't get tired of getting owned and living a lie?

[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]companies like those who offer free online and better first party games will succeed.RR360DD

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this was about Microsoft.

Microsoft is making more money than Sony and is moving more hardware and software.

But yeah, they're gonna fail. That makes perfect sense.

Gue1

You're wrong. If the Xbox were moving more hardware than Sony then the 8 million gap wouldn't be on 2 right now. And the Xbox only sells more software on the US while the PS3 sells the most everyhwere else.

http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/Software/Global/

You lemmings doesn't get tired of getting owned and living a lie?

"Is moving"

Implying the present, in which Microsoft is still moving more software and hardware than the PS3.

Also. your link isn't working.