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ms is supposedly prepping a component to hdmi adapter to be sold with future premium (20gb) packages but says they don't know whether it would be sold separately. link. if it's ever sold separately, it's good news for those 10 mil. early adopters (myself included) who want to use hdmi instead of component and don't want to pay $480 for another xbox.

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Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.

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Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

It's 100% Digtial Lossless Signal that transfers data from the game console or BLu-ray or HD-DVD player in 1010101010101010's/

Digitally.

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.Nteks

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

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ms is supposedly prepping a component to hdmi adapter to be sold with future premium (20gb) packages but says they don't know whether it would be sold separately. link. if it's ever sold separately, it's good news for those 10 mil. early adopters (myself included) who want to use hdmi instead of component and don't want to pay $480 for another xbox.rage8669

I don't see the point of this.....all you are doing is adding another analog to digital conversion step....keep conversion to a minimum and stick to plain old component.

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Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

I'll have a go at it.

There are component, HDMI and DVI cables.
In terms of picture quality I think it's HDMI = DVI > Component.
But DVI cables can't translate sound. So you can have a DVI cable, but then you would have to plug your good old RCA cable or something as well to get sound.

HDMI does have sound too. So that's why it's considered top quality and it costs top dollar.

Component is still better than regular definition. I have it for my Wii. Made a big difference.

HDMI = high definition picture and sound
DVI = high definition picture, no sound
Component = better than regular definition, same sound

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.DireToad

I'll have a go at it.

There are component, HDMI and DVI cables.
In terms of picture quality I think it's HDMI = DVI > Component.
But DVI cables can't translate sound. So you can have a DVI cable, but then you would have to plug your good old RCA cable or something as well to get sound.

HDMI does have sound too. So that's why it's considered top quality and it costs top dollar.

Component is still better than regular definition. I have it for my Wii. Made a big difference.

HDMI = high definition picture and sound
DVI = high definition picture, no sound
Component = better than regular definition, same sound

Actually HDMI cables are very very cheap if you know where to look. Oh and all HDMI cables are all the same because the signal is 100% digital.

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.DireToad

I'll have a go at it.

There are component, HDMI and DVI cables.
In terms of picture quality I think it's HDMI = DVI > Component.
But DVI cables can't translate sound. So you can have a DVI cable, but then you would have to plug your good old RCA cable or something as well to get sound.

HDMI does have sound too. So that's why it's considered top quality and it costs top dollar.

Component is still better than regular definition. I have it for my Wii. Made a big difference.

HDMI = high definition picture and sound
DVI = high definition picture, no sound
Component = better than regular definition, same sound

The picture quality difference between HDMI and component is pretty much unnoticeable, and since the 360 only supports Dolby Digital, there's no reason to get HDMI for audio over optical, either.

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.Nteks

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

It's 100% Digtial Lossless Signal that transfers data from the game console or BLu-ray or HD-DVD player in 1010101010101010's/

Digitally.

100% lossless? what about interference? doesn't cable quality matter too. i hear ppl saying you can get cables for $10 but are those going to give you the same quality? similar maybe but one could say component is similar too

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[QUOTE="rage8669"]ms is supposedly prepping a component to hdmi adapter to be sold with future premium (20gb) packages but says they don't know whether it would be sold separately. link. if it's ever sold separately, it's good news for those 10 mil. early adopters (myself included) who want to use hdmi instead of component and don't want to pay $480 for another xbox.creekfan_basic

I don't see the point of this.....all you are doing is adding another analog to digital conversion step....keep conversion to a minimum and stick to plain old component.

right but this was made for those people who were saying " oh, now i have to buy the elite to get hdmi?" basically it's ms's way of saying "stfu, here's your hdmi". for me, i'm happy with the vga connection.

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[QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

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[QUOTE="Nteks"]
[QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.Ontain

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

It's 100% Digtial Lossless Signal that transfers data from the game console or BLu-ray or HD-DVD player in 1010101010101010's/

Digitally.

100% lossless? what about interference? doesn't cable quality matter too. i hear ppl saying you can get cables for $10 but are those going to give you the same quality? similar maybe but one could say component is similar too

Digital signals are encoded with error correction algorithms, so even if bits get jumbled here and there by interference and cable noise, the error correction takes care of that. And yes, all digital cables deliver the same quality of information.

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.jigglebilly1983

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Now that we're on the subject, I wish to truly understand what i and p is.

p stands for pixels, and that's 1080 pixels per line?

i means interlaced, and I don't know what that means.

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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.jigglebilly1983

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Now that we're on the subject, I wish to truly understand what i and p is.

p stands for pixels, and that's 1080 pixels per line?

i means interlaced, and I don't know what that means.

P = Progressive

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Now that we're on the subject, I wish to truly understand what i and p is.

p stands for pixels, and that's 1080 pixels per line?

i means interlaced, and I don't know what that means.

p means progressive meaning the entire image is drawn at once at 60Hz or 60 frames per second.

i means interlaced meaning half the image is drawn per pass or 60Hz.

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P = Progressivejigglebilly1983

That just raises more questions.

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p means progressive meaning the entire image is drawn at once at 60Hz or 60 frames per second.
i means interlaced meaning half the image is drawn per pass or 60Hz.
rage8669

This clears things up a bit more.

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.nyoroism

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Now that we're on the subject, I wish to truly understand what i and p is.

p stands for pixels, and that's 1080 pixels per line?

i means interlaced, and I don't know what that means.

p stands for progressive, i for interlaced. It tells you how a television displays a single frame on the TV. This is how an interlaced frame is displayed:

As you can see, interlacing only displays the odd lines of a frame first, followed by the even lines 1/60 of a second later. Progressively scanned video frames are displayed as you would expect, left-right, top-down, displaying all of a frame's horizontal lines in one 1/60 interval.

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.magus-21

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

in theory yes, however mostly all TVs DO NOT support 1080p over component because it requires a much faster Analog to Digital Video Converter. 1080p is a digital signal, it looks like garbage on the 360 over component becasue you lose signal when its converted from digital to analog by the tv to run over component. HDMI is the only way to get a real 1080p signal. youll also find that almost every HD-DVD player and Blu-ray player will only support 1080p thru HDMI.

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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.jigglebilly1983

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

in theory yes, however mostly all TVs DO NOT support 1080p over component because it requires a much faster Analog to Digital Video Converter. 1080p is a digital signal, it looks like garbage on the 360 over component becasue you lose signal when its converted from digital to analog by the tv to run over component. HDMI is the only way to get a real 1080p signal. youll also find that almost every HD-DVD player and Blu-ray player will only support 1080p thru HDMI.

That's because HD-DVD and BluRay players CAN'T output resolutions that aren't universally accepted. You're right, some TVs do require HDMI for 1080p, but no, it doesn't look like garbage on the 360. I've outputted 1080p via component through to a Sharp AQUOS, and it looks great.

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easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.

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easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
chadwardennn

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

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[QUOTE="chadwardennn"]
easy logic. HDMI > Component.
thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
rage8669

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

Oblivion's only better on the 360 because of DLC.

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="chadwardennn"]
easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
magus-21

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

Oblivion's only better on the 360 because of DLC.

actually the reviews for both came out before the dlc. self-owned.

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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="chadwardennn"]
easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
rage8669

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

Oblivion's only better on the 360 because of DLC.

actually the reiviews for both came out before the dlc. self-owned.

He said it looked better not that it got better review

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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="chadwardennn"]
easy logic. HDMI > Component.
thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
rage8669

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

Oblivion's only better on the 360 because of DLC.

actually the reiviews for both came out before the dlc. self-owned.

What are you talking about? I'm saying the PS3 version was compared to the 360 version and given a lower score because of its lack of DLC.

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hdmi

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[QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="rage8669"][QUOTE="chadwardennn"]
easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
magus-21

it's the other way around ban dodger. just look at all the reviews for multiplats. they're all better on the 360, even oblivion.

Oblivion's only better on the 360 because of DLC.

actually the reiviews for both came out before the dlc. self-owned.

What are you talking about? I'm saying the PS3 version was compared to the 360 version and given a lower score because of its lack of DLC.

you're probably right. i don't like rpg's anyway.

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HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.jigglebilly1983

This is a lie. Sorry, it is.

"True" 1080p does NOT require a digital signal. That Sony and Mitsubishi TVs don't accept 1080p through component is another matter altogether.

From the TV's perspective, fake 1080p is exactly, absolutely, undeniably the same thing as true 1080p. This is an unarguable fact. So if the 360 can output fake 1080p, it can output true 1080p. I thought this moronic debate was over now that there are native 1080p games on the 360...

As for the connector, I'm happy about the idea, although I'm rather concerned it might be expensive. If you know a bit about signals and electronics, you could easily make one yourself for under $40-45.

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I was wondering, if it doesnt require a digital input than why do DVD upscalers only upscale through HDMI? Dose anyone know?

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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.jigglebilly1983

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

in theory yes, however mostly all TVs DO NOT support 1080p over component because it requires a much faster Analog to Digital Video Converter. 1080p is a digital signal, it looks like garbage on the 360 over component becasue you lose signal when its converted from digital to analog by the tv to run over component. HDMI is the only way to get a real 1080p signal. youll also find that almost every HD-DVD player and Blu-ray player will only support 1080p thru HDMI.

you have no idea what you're talking about for one, vga is analog and your computer monitor can display much higher resolutions than 1080p through vga 1080i and 1080p have the same bandwidth requirements the reason blu-ray/hd-dvd players will only output 1080p through HDMI is because they can't copy protect an analog signal such as component

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easy logic. HDMI > Component.

thats why 360 multiplats look worse than the PS3 version.
chadwardennn

Yes, it is easy to be completely wrong. You nailed it.

Congrats.

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.MxPxPunk

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

in theory yes, however mostly all TVs DO NOT support 1080p over component because it requires a much faster Analog to Digital Video Converter. 1080p is a digital signal, it looks like garbage on the 360 over component becasue you lose signal when its converted from digital to analog by the tv to run over component. HDMI is the only way to get a real 1080p signal. youll also find that almost every HD-DVD player and Blu-ray player will only support 1080p thru HDMI.

you have no idea what you're talking about for one, vga is analog and your computer monitor can display much higher resolutions than 1080p through vga 1080i and 1080p have the same bandwidth requirements the reason blu-ray/hd-dvd players will only output 1080p through HDMI is because they can't copy protect an analog signal such as component

1080p is rated up to 60fps, so it can vary between slightly less than 1080i's bandwidth (for 1080p24) all the way up to double 1080i bandwidth (for 1080p60).

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[QUOTE="magus-21"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.jigglebilly1983

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

in theory yes, however mostly all TVs DO NOT support 1080p over component because it requires a much faster Analog to Digital Video Converter. 1080p is a digital signal, it looks like garbage on the 360 over component becasue you lose signal when its converted from digital to analog by the tv to run over component. HDMI is the only way to get a real 1080p signal. youll also find that almost every HD-DVD player and Blu-ray player will only support 1080p thru HDMI.

I'm sorry but that's wrong. A digital connection is not and has never been necessary for a 1080p signal. 1080p does not mean digital, it's just the number of pixels. If a TV requires HDMI for 1080p, that's because the manufacturer made it that way. CRT monitors for computers can go up to what, 2500x2000 approximately? I don't know the exact numbers, but it's way higher than 1080, and it will do it through a VGA (analog) cable. And my monitor with it's VGA cable has a sharper and clearer picture than any HDTV on the market, it's just a smaller picture :)

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I was wondering, if it doesnt require a digital input than why do DVD upscalers only upscale through HDMI? Dose anyone know?
Mafia17

Because CSS encryption on DVD's requires all upscaling to be done over a HDCP capable connection such as DVI or HDMI. VGA is not specifically mentioned by the DVD forum and thus the 360 can upscale with the optional vga cable.

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[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Nteks"][QUOTE="nyoroism"]Someone explain this to me, as I'm trying to fully understand HDTVs. What exactly is HDMI? My TV says HDTV/HDMI, and I would prefer to have someone tell me than for me to look it up myself.magus-21

HDMI refers to High Definition Multi-media Interface. It's the best connection on the market for HDTV's and HD Game consoles.

Oh, I see. I was thinking it was something bigger than that. (Bigger in importance). Eh, that post came out wrong. Oh well, submitting anyway.

HDMI is also the only way to get true 1080p resolution. the 360 currently does it over Component, but its a faked 1080p. the 360 upscales 1080i to be around what 1080p should look like, as 1080p requires a pure digital signal, and component is only capable of analog.

Oh good God, I can't believe people still believe this. NO, the 360's 1080p is TRUE 1080p. It outputs a 1080p signal. You need to understand the difference between a 1080p SIGNAL and 1080p GRAPHICS. Very few games for EITHER console have 1080p graphics, but the PS3 and 360 are BOTH capable of outputting true 1080p through both component and HDMI. And no, 1080p does NOT require a digital signal, although it can help.

Yeah VGA has been doing resolution over 1080p for years. Look at your computer monitors that are VGA. Notice that the relsoltion passes 1080p.

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I was wondering, if it doesnt require a digital input than why do DVD upscalers only upscale through HDMI? Dose anyone know?
ramey70

Because CSS encryption on DVD's requires all upscaling to be done over a HDCP capable connection such as DVI or HDMI. VGA is not specifically mentioned by the DVD forum and thus the 360 can upscale with the optional vga cable.

Exactly. This is also why you can't use component to display movies (games are still fine) in 1080p with the 360's HD-DVD drive, but you can use VGA to do it (and of course HDMI, when the Elite comes out).

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