Confirmed: Gaming affects your brain.

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for loco145
loco145

12226

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1 loco145
Member since 2006 • 12226 Posts

Fourteen-year-olds who were frequent video gamers had more gray matter in the rewards center of the brain than peers who didn't play video games as much -- suggesting that gaming may be correlated to changes in the brain much as addictions are.

European scientists reported the discovery Tuesday in the journal Translational Psychiatry. Psychologist Simone Kuhn of Ghent University in Belgium and colleagues recruited 154 healthy 14-year-olds in Berlin and divided them into two groups. Twenty-four girls and 52 boys were frequent gamers who played at least nine hours of video games each week. Fifty-eight girls and 20 boys were infrequent gamers, who played less than nine hours a week.

Structural magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) showed differences in the test subjects' brains. Frequent gamers had more gray matter in a portion of the brain known as the left ventral striatum, which affects the interplay of emotions and behavior. Previous research identified striatal function as a "core candidate promoting addictive behavior," the authors wrote.

Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), the team also observed changes in the kids' brains as they participated in a task that simulated anticipating and receiving a reward. They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing. This is similar to a response seen in addicted gamblers, the authors noted, who have increased levels of the the brain chemical dopamine in the ventral striatum when they are losing money.

The authors wrote that their study is the first to correlate changes in brain structures with video gaming. They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first place; scientists will need to measure the effects of video gaming on structures in the brain over time to figure that out.

But either way, discovering the link between brain structure and video games could help researchers understand the role of the brain in addictive behaviors, they wrote.

"If the striatal differences observed in the current study are indeed an effect of gaming, video gaming might post an interesting option to explore structural changes in addiction in future studies in the absence of any neurotoxic substances," they noted.

http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-video-games-brain-addiction-20111115,0,7840130.story

Avatar image for Ratchet_Fan8
Ratchet_Fan8

5574

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#2 Ratchet_Fan8
Member since 2008 • 5574 Posts
interesting. seems legit.
Avatar image for Iantheone
Iantheone

8242

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#3 Iantheone
Member since 2007 • 8242 Posts

They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first place

So no. Its not confirmed.
Avatar image for starwarsgeek112
starwarsgeek112

3472

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4 starwarsgeek112
Member since 2005 • 3472 Posts

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

Avatar image for djsifer01
djsifer01

7238

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#5 djsifer01
Member since 2005 • 7238 Posts
Very interesting read.
Avatar image for skrat_01
skrat_01

33767

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
Well yes. Everything affects your brain, including gaming.. That's pretty obvious.
Avatar image for jeffwulf
jeffwulf

1569

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#7 jeffwulf
Member since 2004 • 1569 Posts

They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first placeIantheone

So no. Its not confirmed.

I was about to post that exact quote.
Avatar image for hexashadow13
hexashadow13

5157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#8 hexashadow13
Member since 2010 • 5157 Posts
Chicken or the egg?
Avatar image for Kaze_no_Mirai
Kaze_no_Mirai

11763

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#9 Kaze_no_Mirai
Member since 2004 • 11763 Posts
They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing.loco145
So gamers don't like losing? :?
Avatar image for BPoole96
BPoole96

22818

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#10 BPoole96
Member since 2008 • 22818 Posts
I've played games my entire life and have no criminal background and have graduated college with honors so gaming definitely hasn't had a negative effect on me. According to this my brain should be about 100% gray matter
Avatar image for FrozenLiquid
FrozenLiquid

13555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 22

User Lists: 0

#11 FrozenLiquid
Member since 2007 • 13555 Posts
[QUOTE="loco145"]They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing.Kaze_no_Mirai
So gamers don't like losing? :?

Of course not. Basically, as a gamer, you are conditioned (like a chessmaster, sports player, any one who dabbles in any sort of types of games) to know when the odds are against you and react accordingly.
Avatar image for FrozenLiquid
FrozenLiquid

13555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 22

User Lists: 0

#12 FrozenLiquid
Member since 2007 • 13555 Posts
I've played games my entire life and have no criminal background and have graduated college with honors so gaming definitely hasn't had a negative effect on me. According to this my brain should be about 100% gray matterBPoole96
There's nothing in that article about gaming and criminal behaviour.
Avatar image for NaveedLife
NaveedLife

17179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#13 NaveedLife
Member since 2010 • 17179 Posts

They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first placeIantheone

So no. Its not confirmed.

This. More stupid, pointless studies, when they could be devoting their time to something that actually matters.

Avatar image for dreman999
dreman999

11514

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#14 dreman999
Member since 2004 • 11514 Posts
Chicken or the egg?hexashadow13
The answer is always chicken.:P
Avatar image for FrozenLiquid
FrozenLiquid

13555

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 22

User Lists: 0

#15 FrozenLiquid
Member since 2007 • 13555 Posts

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] So no. Its not confirmed. NaveedLife

This. More stupid, pointless studies, when they could be devoting their time to something that actually matters.

Look up "blue sky research" on the internet.

Avatar image for PatchMaster
PatchMaster

6013

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

#16 PatchMaster
Member since 2003 • 6013 Posts



Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), the team also observed changes in the kids' brains as they participated in a task that simulated anticipating and receiving a reward. They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing. This is similar to a response seen in addicted gamblers, the authors noted, who have increased levels of the the brain chemical dopamine in the ventral striatum when they are losing money.

loco145

So, what do they actually mean by this? I would think addicted gamblers are more numb to losing than the average person. Whereas a normal person would feel stress or remorse over losing, an addict would either feel indifferent about the loss or potentially even get a rush from the experience. So how does this translate to gamers? Do the tend to be less disappointed when losing a competition than your average person? Are they more likely to repeat behaviors that do not yield a reward or behaviors which potentially harm them?

Avatar image for Leejjohno
Leejjohno

13897

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#17 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

starwarsgeek112

...because that's exactly right. gaming isn't justlike an addiction; it is one.

Avatar image for DarkLink77
DarkLink77

32731

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#18 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts

[QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

Leejjohno

...because that's exactly right. gaming isn't justlike an addiction; it is one.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.
Avatar image for Leejjohno
Leejjohno

13897

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#19 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

[QUOTE="loco145"]

Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), the team also observed changes in the kids' brains as they participated in a task that simulated anticipating and receiving a reward. They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing. This is similar to a response seen in addicted gamblers, the authors noted, who have increased levels of the the brain chemical dopamine in the ventral striatum when they are losing money.

PatchMaster

So, what do they actually mean by this? I would think addicted gamblers are more numb to losing than the average person. Whereas a normal person would feel stress or remorse over losing, an addict would either feel indifferent about the loss or potentially even get a rush from the experience. So how does this translate to gamers? Do the tend to be less disappointed when losing a competition than your average person? Are they more likely to repeat behaviors that do not yield a reward or behaviors which potentially harm them?

It means they are rewarded for losing just as they are for winning. Losing releases dopamine to "numb" the loss - that feeling is addictive.

Avatar image for SaltyMeatballs
SaltyMeatballs

25165

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#20 SaltyMeatballs
Member since 2009 • 25165 Posts
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Well yes. Everything affects your brain, including gaming.. That's pretty obvious.

I'll go with this.
Avatar image for cobrax55
cobrax55

1364

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#21 cobrax55
Member since 2007 • 1364 Posts

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

DarkLink77

...because that's exactly right. gaming isn't justlike an addiction; it is one.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

Its completly true, Addictions arent purely physical. You can get addicted to just about any sort of positive stimulation.

Avatar image for Leejjohno
Leejjohno

13897

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#22 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="starwarsgeek112"]

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

DarkLink77

...because that's exactly right. gaming isn't justlike an addiction; it is one.

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

Im not saying everybody who plays videogames is addicted, but a lot of people are... some games even target that sort of audience such as WoW.

You ever see one of those losers putting all his money into card games and slot machines/horse races etc and loses his job/house/wife over it? it's exactly the same.

So your statement is kind of ironic among other things :P

Avatar image for DarkLink77
DarkLink77

32731

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#23 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

...because that's exactly right. gaming isn't justlike an addiction; it is one.

Leejjohno

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

Im not saying everybody who plays videogames is addicted, but a lot of people are... some games even target that sort of audience such as WoW.

You ever see one of those losers putting all his money into card games and slot machines/horse races etc and loses his job/house/wife over it? it's exactly the same.

So your statement is kind of ironic among other things :P

Oh? Why is it ironic?
Avatar image for xsatyr86
xsatyr86

601

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#24 xsatyr86
Member since 2010 • 601 Posts

[QUOTE="PatchMaster"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]

Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), the team also observed changes in the kids' brains as they participated in a task that simulated anticipating and receiving a reward. They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing. This is similar to a response seen in addicted gamblers, the authors noted, who have increased levels of the the brain chemical dopamine in the ventral striatum when they are losing money.

Leejjohno

So, what do they actually mean by this? I would think addicted gamblers are more numb to losing than the average person. Whereas a normal person would feel stress or remorse over losing, an addict would either feel indifferent about the loss or potentially even get a rush from the experience. So how does this translate to gamers? Do the tend to be less disappointed when losing a competition than your average person? Are they more likely to repeat behaviors that do not yield a reward or behaviors which potentially harm them?

It means they are rewarded for losing just as they are for winning. Losing releases dopamine to "numb" the loss - that feeling is addictive.

That is not what they were saying.

Avatar image for metroidfood
metroidfood

11175

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#25 metroidfood
Member since 2007 • 11175 Posts

They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first placeIantheone

So no. Its not confirmed.

TC doesn't understand correlation.

Avatar image for nightshade869
nightshade869

3457

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 14

User Lists: 0

#26 nightshade869
Member since 2007 • 3457 Posts
Not to be a downer, but everything in life impacts your brain. Daily interactions, computers, social pressures, what you study/ read/ etc. Everything you do impacts your brain. It is a cool read though.
Avatar image for Leejjohno
Leejjohno

13897

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#27 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] That's the stupidest thing I've heard all day.DarkLink77

Im not saying everybody who plays videogames is addicted, but a lot of people are... some games even target that sort of audience such as WoW.

You ever see one of those losers putting all his money into card games and slot machines/horse races etc and loses his job/house/wife over it? it's exactly the same.

So your statement is kind of ironic among other things :P

Oh? Why is it ironic?

You say that is the stupidest thing you heard all day even though it's basically true without so much as a reason why you think it's not. That's what I would call irony :P

Avatar image for glez13
glez13

10314

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#28 glez13
Member since 2006 • 10314 Posts

They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first placeIantheone

So no. Its not confirmed.

This. TC just trying to attract people.

Avatar image for Masculus
Masculus

2878

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#29 Masculus
Member since 2009 • 2878 Posts

Neuroscience is the new frontier for pseudoscience.

But the evidence is strong, gaming is a bit like crack!

Avatar image for DarkLink77
DarkLink77

32731

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#30 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

Im not saying everybody who plays videogames is addicted, but a lot of people are... some games even target that sort of audience such as WoW.

You ever see one of those losers putting all his money into card games and slot machines/horse races etc and loses his job/house/wife over it? it's exactly the same.

So your statement is kind of ironic among other things :P

Leejjohno

Oh? Why is it ironic?

You say that is the stupidest thing you heard all day even though it's basically true without so much as a reason why you think it's not. That's what I would call irony :P

You said it was an addiction. It can be addicting, as can anything, but gaming in and of itself is not an addiction.
Avatar image for NaveedLife
NaveedLife

17179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#31 NaveedLife
Member since 2010 • 17179 Posts

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] So no. Its not confirmed. FrozenLiquid

This. More stupid, pointless studies, when they could be devoting their time to something that actually matters.

Look up "blue sky research" on the internet.

ok. Thats nice and all, but I dont think we really need research on video games to be honest. It is a waste of time and money. There is TONS of research that is pointless. Even all this space junk and so on. We spend loads of money on stuff that just helps us know a little bit more about things that wont matter in the end. I just see it as a waste. Stop wondering and start living. Thats just me though ;).

Avatar image for tormentos
tormentos

33793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#32 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts

Interesting study but they give it an unnecessary negative connotation by correlating it with addiction.

starwarsgeek112

Games can get adictive quite fast,and like any drug leaving them is very hard,i know my son will get mad,and put a long face when i or her mother tell him that he had enough gaming,or that he has to share the controller with hes brothers and systers,or if we send him to do something.

People get a misconception that only drugs are the only thing that can create and adiction,not saying you believe that,but many do,in fact gambling is just as bad if not worst,yet the gobernment support it,because well gamblim and loto and all that stuff pay contributions,drugs unless legal don't.

In fact for you to spend $10,000 dollars on drugs in 1 days would be impossible,you will die 100% sure,but people loss more than that gambling in a few minutes.

Games are as adictive as any drug or gambling once your hook is very hard to stop doing it.

Avatar image for tormentos
tormentos

33793

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#33 tormentos
Member since 2003 • 33793 Posts

TC doesn't understand correlation.

metroidfood

That remind me of a Benny Hill joke,from those they use to write on the wall on the show it say.

I use to be Undecide now i am not so sure.

Avatar image for Zorgax
Zorgax

384

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#34 Zorgax
Member since 2011 • 384 Posts

so like, is there a reason they specifically chose 14 year olds?

Avatar image for nintendofreak_2
nintendofreak_2

25896

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 17

User Lists: 0

#35 nintendofreak_2
Member since 2005 • 25896 Posts

This looks like a correlational study to me, so you can't say gaming affects the brain. All you can say is that there is some relationship between the two of them.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b19c359a3789
deactivated-5b19c359a3789

7785

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#36 deactivated-5b19c359a3789
Member since 2002 • 7785 Posts

Gambling addiction results from conditioning via a variable ratio reinforcement schedule (i.e., "But next time this slot machine could be a winner.")

Gaming is not a variable ratio reinforcement, regardless of what parts of the brain are lighting up.

Avatar image for Jynxzor
Jynxzor

9313

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#37 Jynxzor
Member since 2003 • 9313 Posts

News: Breathing has a direct corelation to being alive.

Avatar image for g0ddyX
g0ddyX

3914

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#38 g0ddyX
Member since 2005 • 3914 Posts

News: Breathing has a direct corelation to being alive.

Jynxzor



lol

Avatar image for eboyishere
eboyishere

12681

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#39 eboyishere
Member since 2011 • 12681 Posts
I think gaming is VERY easy to get addicted too. but idk.
Avatar image for majadamus
majadamus

10292

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 21

User Lists: 0

#40 majadamus
Member since 2003 • 10292 Posts
Maybe people with these enlarged parts of their brains are attracted to gaming more...?
Avatar image for lightleggy
lightleggy

16090

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 65

User Lists: 0

#41 lightleggy
Member since 2008 • 16090 Posts
you know, for a study to be at least slightly credible they actually ask the researches to use more than 1000 people