Console Gaming is D00med. PC Gaming Continues Record Growth.

Lol Consolites

Also, League of Legends, a free 2 Play game, was the most profitable game of 2011.

Let me repeat. A free 2 game, hardcore PC game, was the most profitable game of 2011. And consolites don't kid yourselves and call LoL casual, all of you noobs would get poop'd on by 80% of the LoL community, as user friendly as the game is, the competitiveness is amazing.

Casual LoL.play HoN and get rolled!MonsieurX

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lolcasualLoL

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Casual LoL.play HoN and get rolled!TheShadowLord07

If console gamers actually cared about anything other than Halo, Gears and CoD you might actually have a point there...67gt500

...but they do, so.....you're wrong.

I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.bonesawisready5

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

Congrats Farmville, LoL, Minecraft et al.

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MW2ismygame

Here is my counter attack

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.Idontremember

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

well, you better get used to it. consoles decide when the next gen starts, it's always been like that and will remain that way for the forseeable future.

...you also have no proof that consoles had anything to do with the lack of a gun holdster in ME3, bioware aren't the brightest of developers. they'll also find any way possible to cut costs and increase profits, and i mean any way.

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NoodleFighter

Here is my counter attack

ah, the chewbacca defense, very nice.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.lazerface216

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

well, you better get used to it. consoles decide when the next gen starts, it's always been like that and will remain that way for the forseeable future.

...you also have no proof that consoles had anything to do with the lack of a gun holdster in ME3, bioware aren't the brightest of developers. they'll also find any way possible to cut costs and increase profits, and i mean any way.

The gun holdster was talked about on the Bioware forum and it was one Dev who said it,

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/4

''''It's a runtime memory cost, not a disk space issue. You need those anims for the non-combat areas... so they're going to be on disk regardless.

In order to support exploration in the combat areas, you'd need to have all the anims loaded in memory... so that would be things like the 8-way walks, runs, incline anims, idles, idle twitches, male/female variant overrides, eye noise... etc.

All in all (iirc) it came out to around 2-4MB, which is relatively significant. Also, as you've guessed, yes - I'm referring to the main game (as well as the demo).'''''

removing a simple action is not what I call cutting cost, that is quite relevant on a budget standpoint, especially for something that was already there.

As for consoles being there, well, thank god this gen ends next year. This gen was WAYYYY too long. Can't wait for devs to stop being limited!!!

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[QUOTE="Idontremember"]

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

Idontremember

well, you better get used to it. consoles decide when the next gen starts, it's always been like that and will remain that way for the forseeable future.

...you also have no proof that consoles had anything to do with the lack of a gun holdster in ME3, bioware aren't the brightest of developers. they'll also find any way possible to cut costs and increase profits, and i mean any way.

The gun holdster was talked about on the Bioware forum and it was one Dev who said it,

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/4

removing a simple action is not what a call cutting cost, that is quite relevant on a budget standpoint.
As for consoles being there, well, thank god this gen ends next year. This gen was WAYYYY too long

"a significant chunk of memory"?

i call shenanigans.

as far as this gen goes, i could go another 2 years or so, there's still a ton of amazing games yet to be released. what makes you think it ends next year?

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

well, you better get used to it. consoles decide when the next gen starts, it's always been like that and will remain that way for the forseeable future.

...you also have no proof that consoles had anything to do with the lack of a gun holdster in ME3, bioware aren't the brightest of developers. they'll also find any way possible to cut costs and increase profits, and i mean any way.

lazerface216

The gun holdster was talked about on the Bioware forum and it was one Dev who said it,

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/4

removing a simple action is not what a call cutting cost, that is quite relevant on a budget standpoint.
As for consoles being there, well, thank god this gen ends next year. This gen was WAYYYY too long

"a significant chunk of memory"?

i call shenanigans.

as far as this gen goes, i could go another 2 years or so, there's still a ton of amazing games yet to be released. what makes you think it ends next year?

Stop being stuborn... THE PROOF IS THERE, and many devs have said it that 512Mb of ram was sometimes problematic, they aren't the first...

And come on... seriously, I REALLY NEED TO PROVE THAT NEXT GEN CONSOLES ARE COMING??? where have you been for the last few months...
Everyone knows the WiiU is coming at the end of the year and things have been pretty clear for a while that the next xbox is planned for 2013...

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[QUOTE="Idontremember"]

The gun holdster was talked about on the Bioware forum and it was one Dev who said it,

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9234315/4

removing a simple action is not what a call cutting cost, that is quite relevant on a budget standpoint.
As for consoles being there, well, thank god this gen ends next year. This gen was WAYYYY too long

Idontremember

"a significant chunk of memory"?

i call shenanigans.

as far as this gen goes, i could go another 2 years or so, there's still a ton of amazing games yet to be released. what makes you think it ends next year?

And come on... seriously, I REALLY NEED TO PROVE THAT NEXT GEN CONSOLES ARE COMING??? where have you been for the last few months...
Everyone knows the WiiU is coming at the end of the year and things have been pretty clear for a while that the next xbox is planned for 2013...

seems like wishful thinking to me, i say holiday 2014 at the earliest. we'll see though...

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.Idontremember

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.lowe0

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

Horribly bad reply!!!!

:-) LOL eh?

LoL is casual . go play dota 2 and ull get stomped

Lol Consolites

Also, League of Legends, a free 2 Play game, was the most profitable game of 2011.

Let me repeat. A free 2 game, hardcore PC game, was the most profitable game of 2011. And consolites don't kid yourselves and call LoL casual, all of you noobs would get poop'd on by 80% of the LoL community, as user friendly as the game is, the competitiveness is amazing.

Eddie-Vedder

Or you know dota2>lol

If LoL is the future of gaming then we should all just slit our wrists now.

A consolite is laughing at other consolites? Does not compute.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]A consolite is laughing at other consolites? Does not compute.Eddie-Vedder

Stop trolling you obv havnt played dota 2.

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Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

Idontremember

Horribly bad reply!!!!

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]A consolite is laughing at other consolites? Does not compute.Eddie-Vedder

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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Casual LoL.play HoN and get rolled!MonsieurX

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]A consolite is laughing at other consolites? Does not compute.Eddie-Vedder

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]pretty sure dota owns both of them. and dont think I would play these games. heard some(or most) take the game way too seriously

princeofshapeir

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[QUOTE="lowe0"] So play only PC exclusives. Problem solved.

lowe0

Horribly bad reply!!!!

Most games are multiplats and will stay that way.
Saying play only exclusives is almost like saying, try to avoid as much games as possible... Why not saying don't game at all then, there's no difference...

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]pretty sure dota owns both of them. and dont think I would play these games. heard some(or most) take the game way too seriously

princeofshapeir

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[QUOTE="Idontremember"]

Horribly bad reply!!!!

Idontremember

Most games are multiplats and will stay that way.
Saying play only exclusives is almost like saying, try to avoid as much games as possible... Why not saying don't game at all then, there's no difference...

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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Please explain why that's not a viable option.

lowe0

Most games are multiplats and will stay that way.
Saying play only exclusives is almost like saying, try to avoid as much games as possible... Why not saying don't game at all then, there's no difference...

Agree, but I think If the manufacturers wanted to, they could easily create that demand.
Most people don't know where hardware is right now so don't know what they could have, and therefore don't want anything new, I remember last gen when the x360 got released, the old xbox died quite rapidly because development and marketing dissapeared in favor of the X360. The Wii, well, let's say it was quite succesfull, and the PS3, the price was a problem, and multiplats and games like Gears of War on the 360 didn't help on a marketing standpoint.

That's why I personnaly think a good sum of money in marketing and propaganda could do the trick.
That's something Apple understood well. People don't want to change their consoles cause they think it's the best, many don't mid replacing their phone ASAP because they see something more awesome. I'm using apple as an example, but that is applicable to all manufacturers.

With new consoles, a lot of people will definitly complain, but after a little while, when all the games aren't the best existing on the old system and seeing how the new product is amazing, they'll switch in a hearth beat!!! Of course Sony and MS aren't gonna take any risk if the 360 and PS3 still sells, but with the Wii U coming this year, that new amazing product won't be theirs, so it's simply gonna be a matter of time before an announcement. The rumors of a MS announcement at the next E3 are quite logical.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.Idontremember

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

If consoles died it would take out billions from the industry. Pc gaming would be hurt bad because it will kill revs or have massive lay offs.

[QUOTE="Idontremember"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.dontshackzmii

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

If consoles died it would take out billions from the industry. Pc gaming would be hurt bad because it will kill revs or have massive lay offs.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]A consolite is laughing at other consolites? Does not compute.Plagueless

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Broski. I'm a PC gamer with a special place in my heart for Sony, for giving us so much gaming goodness. And a little hate for Microfail for not understanding why there are fanboys of a platform that has next to no games and rips you off at every chance it gets. Also people claiming Dota 2 > LoL your wrong and very misinformed. DOTA is ancient history, It's simply outdated. LoL is the "next gen" version. Not to mention LoL just broke another esports record this weekend. Not only is it fun to play, it's fun to watch the pro teams play. Eddie-Vedder

PC gamers are losers

PC gamers are losers

TopTierHustler

I think you need a GF!!!!

PC gamers are losers

TopTierHustler

Oh snap. I bet that stung.

So facebook games and free to play games are pc gamers trump card?
your actually proud that facebook games and free to play games where people can purchase skills and abilities and fancy costumes are now the representation of your platform?

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I don't understand everyone's obsession with having some parts of an industry destroy other parts. They all can co-exist quite well.dontshackzmii

Well, a lot of PC gamers are just extremely tired of games being crippled because consoles are outdated!!!! Some consider consoles like the plague!!!

Things like not being able to holdster your gun in ME3 because it would take just a bit too much memory for consoles so PC can't have it either are simple things that shoudn't have to happen and are simply stupid.... And let's not talk about thing like Crysis 2. None of these problems would have happened if console would finally have been replaced or simply gone...

If consoles died it would take out billions from the industry. Pc gaming would be hurt bad because it will kill revs or have massive lay offs.

Just like the first console gaming market crash! oh wait.......