Console KING of JRPGs?

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#1 f50p90
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Was it the PSX?

Squaresoft was popping out games like they were going out of style: Final Fantasy's I and II (Via FF Origins) IV (Via FF Chronicles) V and VI (Via Anthology), VII, VIII, IX. Final Fantasy Tactics. Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger (Via FF Chronicles). Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile

SCEA even came out with Legend of Dragoon, Grandia, Legend of Legaia, Wild Arms

And i'm forgetting a bunch. What happened to developers like these? RPGs, unlike any other genre can stand the test of time. 10 years down, we will look back and Gears of War will look and play like crap. Not RPGs though, you can still go back and play Chrono Trigger, or FFVII, and they are still amazing.

Developers need to work on more games like these. I understand it's harder and takes longer now. Square Enix only works on one title at a time before they even announce another game. But something needs to be done. Anyone agree?

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It was probably the PS2...

...because it could play PSX games in addition to it's own.

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Well so can the ps3, to add to it's, upcoming JRPGs. Anyway in terms of the quality AND quantity, the psx was coming out with JRPGs all the time. It started to go downhill with the ps2, the ps3 has almost hit a block. FFXIII and White Knight then what?

360 has Lost Odyssey, then what else?

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#4 Bdking57
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Atlus makes better JRPGS.. No offense, but the square games are all casual, have horrible resell value, and are way to kiddy anymore.. Atlus games are mature, hardcore difficulty, and appreciate in value.. they are a far better purchase.
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#5 KeeperofDingo
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Between PS1 and PS2.
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#6 Titus_WoWplayer
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not imo, rpgs age as well, alot if u aren't into them like with fps games, they age alot when your not into them, its playform games that don't age, ala mario, banjo, ratchet, etc.
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#7 FF6fan
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PS3 60 gig for sure since it will play all Ps2 and PS1 games not to mention upcoming FF13 and versus. I think square only does that with the FF series(and even then X-2 and XI came out in the same year)... they do have other games other than FFs.

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#9 reza
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[QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

It was probably the PS2...

...because it could play PSX games in addition to it's own.

f50p90

Well so can the ps3, to add to it's, upcoming JRPGs. Anyway in terms of the quality AND quantity, the psx was coming out with JRPGs all the time. It started to go downhill with the ps2, the ps3 has almost hit a block. FFXIII and White Knight then what?

360 has Lost Odyssey, then what else?

cry on, infinite undiscovery.

are they making a blue dragon 2?

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#11 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

It was probably the PS2...

...because it could play PSX games in addition to it's own.

f50p90

Well so can the ps3, to add to it's, upcoming JRPGs. Anyway in terms of the quality AND quantity, the psx was coming out with JRPGs all the time. It started to go downhill with the ps2, the ps3 has almost hit a block. FFXIII and White Knight then what?

Disgaea 3 (out in japan)
Star Ocean 4
Eternal Sonata (yes, I know, out for 360)
Last Remnant (multiplats count kids.)
piles and piles of rumours...

Ps2 probably had more high level jrpgs than even ps1,
they pretty much started to come a couple years after release as well, so, who knows.

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#12 f50p90
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[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

It was probably the PS2...

...because it could play PSX games in addition to it's own.

Andrew_Xavier

Well so can the ps3, to add to it's, upcoming JRPGs. Anyway in terms of the quality AND quantity, the psx was coming out with JRPGs all the time. It started to go downhill with the ps2, the ps3 has almost hit a block. FFXIII and White Knight then what?

Disgaea 3 (out in japan)
Star Ocean 4
Eternal Sonata (yes, I know, out for 360)
Last Remnant (multiplats count kids.)
piles and piles of rumours...

I'm worried about the Quality of these games. Will they be as epic as Chrono Trigger or FFVII? And the quantity, PSX was coming out with GREAT RPGs two or three times a year. Now we have to wait 2-3 years for one RPG that might be good

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#13 Gunraidan
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Atlus makes better JRPGS.. No offense, but the square games are all casual, have horrible resell value, and are way to kiddy anymore.. Atlus games are mature, hardcore difficulty, and appreciate in value.. they are a far better purchase.Bdking57

Best post ever.

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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"][QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

It was probably the PS2...

...because it could play PSX games in addition to it's own.

f50p90

Well so can the ps3, to add to it's, upcoming JRPGs. Anyway in terms of the quality AND quantity, the psx was coming out with JRPGs all the time. It started to go downhill with the ps2, the ps3 has almost hit a block. FFXIII and White Knight then what?

Disgaea 3 (out in japan)
Star Ocean 4
Eternal Sonata (yes, I know, out for 360)
Last Remnant (multiplats count kids.)
piles and piles of rumours...

I'm worried about the Quality of these games. Will they be as epic as Chrono Trigger or FFVII? And the quantity, PSX was coming out with GREAT RPGs two or three times a year. Now we have to wait 2-3 years for one RPG that might be good

Well, Disgaea 3 is apparently freakin incredible, the first 2 were as well,
chrono trigger was for SNES,
takes time on any new platform to get high level rpgs, rpgs simply take more time to make than say...a shooter.

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#15 Vandalvideo
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Ugh Final Fantasy isn't the king of JRPGs. Its just the one that brought the genre into the mainstream. Square is far from having the bset JRPGs.
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Yup, I agree it was the PSX. Add Xenogears, Parasite Eve, Parasite Eve II, Vagrant Story, Front Mission 3, SaGA Frontier, SaGa Frontier 2, Brave Fencer Musashi, Star Ocean: The Second Story and Dragon Quest VII to the list. I'm playing through at least half of them on PSP at the moment.

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#17 HuusAsking
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Ugh Final Fantasy isn't the king of JRPGs. Its just the one that brought the genre into the mainstream. Square is far from having the bset JRPGs.Vandalvideo
Then where does Dragon Quest, undeniably the best-selling JRPG series in Japan, fit in the equation?
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#18 TerroRizing
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Ugh Final Fantasy isn't the king of JRPGs. Its just the one that brought the genre into the mainstream. Square is far from having the bset JRPGs.Vandalvideo

Gamespot thinks they are, lol

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cry on, infinite undiscovery.

are they making a blue dragon 2?

reza

I think they are making Blue Dragon 2.

The 360 is also getting Tales of Vesperia, Operation Darkness is coming out in the States sometime this year, and I remember reading that NIS is thinking about making games for the 360, would love to think of some of the insane achievments they would have.

Disgaea 3 (out in japan)
Star Ocean 4
Eternal Sonata (yes, I know, out for 360)
Last Remnant (multiplats count kids.)
piles and piles of rumours...

Ps2 probably had more high level jrpgs than even ps1,
they pretty much started to come a couple years after release as well, so, who knows.

Andrew_Xavier

Disgaea 3, can't wait for that game.

Star Ocean 4 is confrimed to confirmed on being a PS3 title, last I heard it was still up in the air?

EDIT: I would have to say the console King of JRPG would be the PSX/2 but this generation it appears there would not be a king persay, just great JRPGs for each system.

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#20 TerroRizing
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Its a tie between ps1 and snes.
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[QUOTE="Bdking57"]Atlus makes better JRPGS.. No offense, but the square games are all casual, have horrible resell value, and are way to kiddy anymore.. Atlus games are mature, hardcore difficulty, and appreciate in value.. they are a far better purchase.Gunraidan

Best post ever.

Most ignorant post ever. Atlus are great though.

I would say PS2...although it's close between that and PS1. PS2 is a much better console overall though.

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Playstation 2 for sheer volume, but for quality I'd say PSX, if only due to Xenogears

I thought this thread might be talking about this generation, and if so, I'd say it's too early to decide. Right now it looks like 360, but I think FFXIII could attract a lot of attention to the PS3. The Wii also has some impressive games lined up.

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#23 FF6fan
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Playstation 2 for sheer volume, but for quality I'd say PSX, if only due to Xenogears

I thought this thread might be talking about this generation, and if so, I'd say it's too early to decide. Right now it looks like 360, but I think FFXIII could attract a lot of attention to the PS3. The Wii also has some impressive games lined up.

randar23rhenn
May i ask what the wii has lined up?(really i mean im not being sarcastic or anything just i haven't heard much)
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#24 randar23rhenn
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[QUOTE="randar23rhenn"]

Playstation 2 for sheer volume, but for quality I'd say PSX, if only due to Xenogears

I thought this thread might be talking about this generation, and if so, I'd say it's too early to decide. Right now it looks like 360, but I think FFXIII could attract a lot of attention to the PS3. The Wii also has some impressive games lined up.

FF6fan
May i ask what the wii has lined up?(really i mean im not being sarcastic or anything just i haven't heard much)

DQ Swords... which could go either way, the new Vanillaware game I can't spell, a Tales game, and some others might be signing on soon
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I'd say the console RPG king was the PS1, followed by the SNES and PS2 as runners-up.

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#26 lowkey254
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either psx or snes

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#27 bbkkristian
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Xenoblade Chronicles will stand the test of time. I will still play that game years from now and get the same epic experience like I did when I first played it. I've already played and beaten it twice.
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PS2>PS1>SNES>NES>PS3.
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#29 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="Bdking57"]Atlus makes better JRPGS.. No offense, but the square games are all casual, have horrible resell value, and are way to kiddy anymore.. Atlus games are mature, hardcore difficulty, and appreciate in value.. they are a far better purchase.Gunraidan

Best post ever.

They can bring threads from the dead, but not members. Gunraidan, you, sir, are missed.
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#30 bbkkristian
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Oh holy s*** this thread is a zombie!!!
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Nothing will beat the PS1

Chrono Cross,FF7,FF9,Breath of 3 and 4,Legend of Dragoon and Xenogears.

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I miss Vandal Hearts, Ogre Battle, & Tatics Orge..  Sega Saturn!

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#33 PS4TrumpsXbox1
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Nothing will beat the PS1

Chrono Cross,FF7,FF9,Breath of 3 and 4,Legend of Dragoon and Xenogears.

Ballroompirate
Your forgetting a major one there, Lunar 2 Eternal Blue.... Its as rare as FF7 use to be before it was released on psn and just as expensive as it was when it was only available via amazon or ebay Guess you didnt like FF8 either...
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PS4.
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#36 Riverwolf007
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lulz, of course you can go back and play a 20 year old jrpg and it not be dated.

 because they are still the exact same shyt.

hell not only are they the  same thing but the old ones are way better.

i would play vagrant story, wild arms and legend of legaia before i would even think about touching anything made in the last decade.

how sad is that?

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#37 Sweenix
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this right here is the true console king, the greatest game/jrpg ever made!! worthy.gifworthy.gifworthy.gifworthy.gif

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PS3 obv Hellooo... Valkyria Chronicles. Disgaea 3 and 4, Trinity Souls, Trinity Universe, Nier, all the Ateliers and Neptunias, Final Fantasy XIII. tru masterpiece
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]PS3 obv Hellooo... Valkyria Chronicles. Disgaea 3 and 4, Trinity Souls, Trinity Universe, Nier, all the Ateliers and Neptunias, Final Fantasy XIII. tru masterpiece

Excited for DW8?
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#40 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]PS3 obv Hellooo... Valkyria Chronicles. Disgaea 3 and 4, Trinity Souls, Trinity Universe, Nier, all the Ateliers and Neptunias, Final Fantasy XIII. tru masterpiece

Excited for DW8?

Nah, not really. More interested in getting Bladestorm off the US store, more than anything Koei-related.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]PS3 obv Hellooo... Valkyria Chronicles. Disgaea 3 and 4, Trinity Souls, Trinity Universe, Nier, all the Ateliers and Neptunias, Final Fantasy XIII. tru masterpiece

Excited for DW8?

Nah, not really. More interested in getting Bladestorm off the US store, more than anything Koei-related.

I still need to get Bladestorm.
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#42 Wiimotefan
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SNES and PS1 tied imo with PS2 very close.

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I'd say the console RPG king was the PS1, followed by the SNES and PS2 as runners-up.

Jag85
why did you bump a 5 year old topic?
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#44 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Excited for DW8?

Nah, not really. More interested in getting Bladestorm off the US store, more than anything Koei-related.

I still need to get Bladestorm.

Do it! It's like an improved Kessen with a medieval feel.
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#45 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Nah, not really. More interested in getting Bladestorm off the US store, more than anything Koei-related.

I still need to get Bladestorm.

Do it! It's like an improved Kessen with a medieval feel.

Yeah, I played the demo ages ago and loved it. What I wouldn't do for another Kessen though.
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] I still need to get Bladestorm.

Do it! It's like an improved Kessen with a medieval feel.

Yeah, I played the demo ages ago and loved it. What I wouldn't do for another Kessen though.

Shame how Koei is hellbent on an unimproved product like the Warriors franchise when brilliance like Trinity Souls, Kessen, ROTK, Nobunaga's Ambition, Bladestorm, et cetra, all get overshadowed and wallow in uncertainty. :(
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PS3 and DARK SOULS

 

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#48 ArisShadows
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PS3 and DARK SOULS

 

ShadowofSonic
Careful you are messing with the past, get out, its 2008. If you aren't careful, Dark Souls might not be born. You jeopardizing the future!
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#49 rockydog1111
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PSX > SNES > PS2 if I am remembering the game catalogs correctly. I am having to think beck many years to figure this one out though. I wish we could get back to PSX quality of JRPGs.

DS, PSP, and 3DS are the places to go for quality jrpg's nowadays though. All 3 have an amazing selection of them.

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#50 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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This gen? Xbox 360 All time ps1