console pro's and con's

Best Controller? TOTALLY opinion.

Crazy talk, but still, it seems to be your most unbiased try at a thread yet, TC, good for you.

This list would be much better WITHOUT the opinions and repetitive comments.Gamer4Iife

There are no opinions, which ones are opinions?

[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]This list would be much better WITHOUT the opinions and repetitive comments.AHUGECAT

There are no opinions, which ones are opinions?

Best controller

Not a lot of "console" games

MS Game Studios has been worthless, dumping great first party studios left and right

Destroyed the PlayStation brand name

Brawl and Galaxy are great

Bad controller (Motion Plus = more milking)

Too expensive (For the Wii ? Seriously. :|)

Not a lot of good games (as in 3 or 4)

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4Iife"]This list would be much better WITHOUT the opinions and repetitive comments.Gamer4Iife

There are no opinions, which ones are opinions?

Best controller

Not a lot of "console" games

MS Game Studios has been worthless, dumping great first party studios left and right

Destroyed the PlayStation brand name

Brawl and Galaxy are great

Bad controller (Motion Plus = more milking)

Too expensive (For the Wii ? Seriously. :|)

Not a lot of good games (as in 3 or 4)

Best controller = facts
360 lacks a lot of games for consoles, mostly it's just shooters and WRPGs (wanna be PC)
They have a crap first party and they dumped Ensemble and Bungie
PlayStation went from the most respected and popular video game brand name to last place
Brawl and Galaxy ARE great
It's true, Wii isn't even motion controlled
Wii is $249 for a last gen system
It is true

Best controller = facts
360 lacks a lot of games for consoles, mostly it's just shooters and WRPGs (wanna be PC)
They have a crap first party and they dumped Ensemble and Bungie
PlayStation went from the most respected and popular video game brand name to last place
Brawl and Galaxy ARE great
It's true, Wii isn't even motion controlled
Wii is $249 for a last gen system
It is true

AHUGECAT

-As soon as you wrote 'best', it became an opinion.
-If it's on console, why is it not a console game ?
-Again, 'crap' is subjective.
-And how is that supposed to affect how you enjoy your console ?
-Agreed, but opinion nevertheless.
-So ?
-It's also been the cheapest console of the generation for nearly 2 years until a couple of weeks ago.
-It is an opinion.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Best controller = facts
360 lacks a lot of games for consoles, mostly it's just shooters and WRPGs (wanna be PC)
They have a crap first party and they dumped Ensemble and Bungie
PlayStation went from the most respected and popular video game brand name to last place
Brawl and Galaxy ARE great
It's true, Wii isn't even motion controlled
Wii is $249 for a last gen system
It is true

Gamer4Iife

-As soon as you wrote 'best', it became an opinion.
-If it's on console, why is it not a console game ?
-Again, 'crap' is subjective.
-And how is that supposed to affect how you enjoy your console ?
-Agreed, but opinion nevertheless.
-So ?
-It's also been the cheapest console of the generation for nearly 2 years until a couple of weeks ago.
-It is an opinion.

- except it IS the best controller
- it needs more action adventures, platformers, arcadey type games, etc. etc. this is why MS will never break into the PS2 demographic and only the hardcore
- Um I think everyone can agree MS Game Studios is a worthless first party
- Because you expet something from a brand name, and Sony has failed to deliver
- cIt is not an opinion
- Then the controller is worthless
- Cheapest=/= cheap. $250 is too much for a Gamecube with half-butt motion controls
- Wrong

XBOX 360 PRO'S

- Has the most games
- Has a lot of quality games
- Best controller Not a fact.
- Best online Not a fact, although widely agreed.

CON'S

- RROD
- No standard HD
- No built in WiFi Not needed.
- RROD
- Accessories are limited and expensive (ie HD upgrades)
- LIVE costs money
- RROD
- $59 games
- Not a lot of "console" games - most games are either shooters or WRPGs (though MS is trying lately) Huh?
- RROD
- Disc scratching problems I've never experienced this.
- MS Game Studios has been worthless, dumping great first party studios left and right I strongly agree with this.
- Trying to be too much like the Wii and PS2
- RROD OK, we get it.

PLAYSTATION 3 PRO'S

- Best action adventure and platformer games, and only getting better
- Future doesn't look too bad
- Best console, great reliability, WiFi standard Not really that reliable, disc drive failures, YLOD etc
- Blu-ray
- Free online

CON'S

- Destroyed the PlayStation brand name :lol: WUT
- Expensive
- Most games go multiplat (Assassin's Creed, DMC4, FFXIII, GTAIV, etc. etc.) Not "most" but quite a few.
- CELL is difficult to develop for thus delays
- Everything is delayed Horrible exaggeration but the delays are annoying.
- Expensive
- Sony's first party hasn't delivered yet, very average Couldn't disagree more. 2 AAAE's within 3 weeks of each other, both first party.

WII'S PRO'S

- Got my aunt and mom into gaming?
- Brawl and Galaxy are great

CON'S

- Bad online
- Bad controller (Motion Plus = more milking)
- Tons of milking peripherals
- Bad graphics
- Not a lot of good games (as in 3 or 4)
- Too expensive
- Tons and tons of shovelware (PS2 had this, but had good games to back it up)
- etc. etc. Yeah.......fair enough, I'm not gonna defend the Wii.AHUGECAT

Answers in red.

- except it IS the best controller
- it needs more action adventures, platformers, arcadey type games, etc. etc. this is why MS will never break into the PS2 demographic and only the hardcore
- Um I think everyone can agree MS Game Studios is a worthless first party
- Because you expet something from a brand name, and Sony has failed to deliver
- cIt is not an opinion
- Then the controller is worthless
- Cheapest=/= cheap. $250 is too much for a Gamecube with half-butt motion controls
- Wrong

AHUGECAT

You just don't get it, do you ? Opinions are subjective. Argue all you want, you can never pass that as a fact. And if Microsoft's first party is so useless, why did you give Fable II a 9.8 in your sig ? :lol:

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- except it IS the best controller
- it needs more action adventures, platformers, arcadey type games, etc. etc. this is why MS will never break into the PS2 demographic and only the hardcore
- Um I think everyone can agree MS Game Studios is a worthless first party
- Because you expet something from a brand name, and Sony has failed to deliver
- cIt is not an opinion
- Then the controller is worthless
- Cheapest=/= cheap. $250 is too much for a Gamecube with half-butt motion controls
- Wrong

Gamer4Iife

You just don't get it, do you ? Opinions are subjective. Argue all you want, you can never pass that as a fact. And if Microsoft's first party is so useless, why did you give Fable II a 9.8 in your sig ? :lol:

Okay, even if what I said was opinions (which they are not) where did I ever say they were facts? Anyways what I said is true anyways, and MS Game Studios probably releases 2 games a year, if that.

Okay, even if what I said was opinions (which they are not) where did I ever say they were facts?

AHUGECAT

When you make a list of pros and cons, you stick to cold, hard facts and keep the subjective comments to yourself. That's common sense.

- Destroyed the PlayStation brand name

AHUGECAT

That's a bit over-dramtic, people should remember back when the PS2 struggled a lot in it's first couple of years and look at it now as everyone is listing it among their top 5 consoles of all time. We will see at the end of this generation how well the Wii/360/PS3 has done.

- Everything is delayed

AHUGECAT

As long as the games are good and not rushed.....

WII CON'S

- Too expensive

AHUGECAT

Too expensive? The price has been one of the main reasons why the Wii is outselling everything else. You wouldn't have been saying this a few weeks ago before the Xbox 360 price cut.