Counter Strike has one of the worst aiming systems I've experience with a fps.

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#1 OoSuperMarioO
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All these years going back and forth to Cs it never changes my opinon that the aiming system is flat out not pixel for pixel accurate. I fired many arms in my life andparticpated inalot of events that involve stuff like paintball shooting ect. and this CS by far stands out from other shooters by having one of the worst aiming systems. Some will say Im bad but hell you can not convience that the aiming system is like real life or that it's superior to other fps shooters on the market when you talk about pixel for pixel accuracy. Feel free to comment and debate....
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#3 Cyber-
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Are they ever gonna update CS again?
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totally agree. got source cause the rest of my COD2 clan did, and well after playing COD and battlefield, the game was/is totally random.
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Zomg a pc shooter isn't like real shoot-outs in real life? Say it ain't so! Its the most realistic shooter out there and like any game you have to learn how it works. Don't cry because it has a different set of physics and ballistics travel than real life, cry because its players are lame-asses and can't help but wall.
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totally agree. got source cause the rest of my COD2 clan did, and well after playing COD and battlefield, the game was/is totally random.mordeth90
The hit system is not random, you just have to learn how it works. You're telling of your cod fancies explains alot about you're misunderstanding of the combat system. See, in CS:S you require talent, the end.
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#7 white45e
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thats just 1 of the problems i have with cs

its boring, repetitive and full of hackers

cod4 is such a better game

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#8 ProductNumber49
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I'm only playing CSS because of the people(clan)...not the game

Dont take it too seriously,its just a game

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#9 Deihmos
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I still don't understand why it's still the most popular PC game after so many years. It'srepetitive and gets boring fast. Battlefield is 10x better.

When i played it i got head shots and I know i didn't hit the head.

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I never really got why CS is still so popular. It's an alright game, but there are better out there.
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#11 DarkQuark
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What? The aiming system is totally standard for your average FPS except the recoil is more apparent. Your gun always stays in the middle, you have a crosshair; what makes it different? Try playing America's Army or Red Orchestra and then come back to say what you think of their aiming.
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Zomg a pc shooter isn't like real shoot-outs in real life? Say it ain't so! Its the most realistic shooter out there and like any game you have to learn how it works. Don't cry because it has a different set of physics and ballistics travel than real life, cry because its players are lame-asses and can't help but wall.flclempire

Hahahahahaggjagish aspddgerb

No, its not the most realistic shooter out there. Haahahahahahahahahagaeghshshahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahfsdjhahahah

I cant believe you actually said that. ahahHaHAHahahhaahahahhAahhaahhaahahgaahahahahahah

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#13 TheJuiceyBar
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Played Counter Strike

It`s boring

I prefer Michael Jacksons Moonwalk

The end

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#14 user_nat
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I've never noticed anything particularly wrong with the aiming system..

I do agree with other people in this thread about the game being repetitive.. Probably why its so popular amoungst hardcore PC gamers.. they seem to like MMOs also.

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#15 Crusher89
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Played Counter Strike

It`s boring

I prefer Michael Jacksons Moonwalk

The end

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u should try zombie mod its really fun

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CS is garbage. The ones with the most tweaks in their configuration-files are those who win.
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#17 LibertySaint
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idk i still love CS and its aiming...its been the same for ever and no one has complained but u....imo u suck at it.....i love it
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#18 OoSuperMarioO
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Yet not one person who attacked me convinced me why the aiming system is badly flawed. CS has a bad aiming system period to the competition like COD, BF, Halo(lol far better pixel for pixel accuracy than CS even though you know it's Halo:) ). COme on CS fans give me logic details to your arguements and some explanations why the aiming system is terrible let alone the weapon tweaks.
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Yet not one person who attacked me convinced me why the aiming system is badly flawed. CS has a bad aiming system period to the competition like COD, BF, Halo(lol far better pixel for pixel accuracy than CS even though you know it's Halo:) ). COme on CS fans give me logic details to your arguements and some explanations why the aiming system is terrible let alone the weapon tweaks.OoSuperMarioO

I don't understand what you mean by the aiming system is flawed. CounteStrike has always been a game where the skilled players can get a headshot almost every single shot and the nubs just can't aim for crap because they suck. The system isn't flawed, maybe it's just that you suck.

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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Yet not one person who attacked me convinced me why the aiming system is badly flawed. CS has a bad aiming system period to the competition like COD, BF, Halo(lol far better pixel for pixel accuracy than CS even though you know it's Halo:) ). COme on CS fans give me logic details to your arguements and some explanations why the aiming system is terrible let alone the weapon tweaks.3ggman

I don't understand what you mean by the aiming system is flawed. CounteStrike has always been a game where the skilled players can get a headshot almost every single shot and the nubs just can't aim for crap because they suck. The system isn't flawed, maybe it's just that you suck.

You ever fired an arms in real life?
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[QUOTE="3ggman"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Yet not one person who attacked me convinced me why the aiming system is badly flawed. CS has a bad aiming system period to the competition like COD, BF, Halo(lol far better pixel for pixel accuracy than CS even though you know it's Halo:) ). COme on CS fans give me logic details to your arguements and some explanations why the aiming system is terrible let alone the weapon tweaks.OoSuperMarioO

I don't understand what you mean by the aiming system is flawed. CounteStrike has always been a game where the skilled players can get a headshot almost every single shot and the nubs just can't aim for crap because they suck. The system isn't flawed, maybe it's just that you suck.

You ever fired an arms in real life?

Was anybody claiming that it is similar to real life? It is a video game. I'm not sure either what you mean, how does CS not have "pixel by pixel accuracy" like in other shooters?

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Coming from someone who played CS for years, I"m so sick of it and I haven't touched it since late '05. It is the most repetitive, boring online game, with one of the worst communities of players out there. I never had a problem with aiming though, then again I didn't suck at it.

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#23 Puckhog04
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It's called recoil. And, Yes, real M4's and MP5's have recoil when you fire them (although an MP5's recoil is very slight when compared to the rifles). Just try and shoot a Deagle (Desert Eagle) sidearm with one hand...it'll bust your shoulder.
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#25 mistervengeance
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Cs:S is based on twitch shots

if you're not good at them, you lose

vs. games like halo, battlefield, gears, which are much slower paced.

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Coming from someone who played CS for years, I"m so sick of it and I haven't touched it since late '05. It is the most repetitive, boring online game, with one of the worst communities of players out there. I never had a problem with aiming though, then again I didn't suck at it.

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And yet you played it for years... Ya...

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All these years going back and forth to Cs it never changes my opinon that the aiming system is flat out not pixel for pixel accurate. I fired many arms in my life andparticpated inalot of events that involve stuff like paintball shooting ect. and this CS by far stands out from other shooters by having one of the worst aiming systems. Some will say Im bad but hell you can not convience that the aiming system is like real life or that it's superior to other fps shooters on the market when you talk about pixel for pixel accuracy. Feel free to comment and debate....OoSuperMarioO

Yes because in real life its pixel perfect aiming... it sounds like you have fired paintball guns and prolly pellet guns, those arent automatic (well some paintball guns are) or have RECOIL. and if you want to try again ill let you in on a little secret. In the debug menu set cl_Crosshairscale to 3000 it will be a lot better for you and anyone else who plays.

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After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.
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#29 Bballer101
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Counter Strike is the only game where i have experienced the recoil actually screwing up my shot...call of duty 4 i just spray n rake in like 50+ kills a match same thing with many other shooters. IMO i like the bullet registration for cs but probably only because i figured out how it works lol.
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#30 Riki101
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i bet the TC thinks justbecause the crosshair is in the head and fires, he misses he then says its not accurate

when in the game your not suppose to be jumping/running around when fireing your suppose to get a good position sit still then try to go for that headshot, this isnt halo this is a MUCHmore realistic type of game
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Are they ever gonna update CS again?Cyber-

It's confirmed that they will be updating CS:S to the Source 2007 engine in the coming months ( early 2008 ), but it's currently a rumor that they will be adding new game modes.

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#32 Kahuna_1
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The recoil is just stiffer for some guns...like it is almost impossible to spray an entire clip of any AK all at once and actually hit something. I think CoD 4 has some of the most garbage hit detection since Socom II. Kneecaps=kills while headshots=haha.
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#33 OoSuperMarioO
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After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.tramp
Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.
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All these years going back and forth to Cs it never changes my opinon that the aiming system is flat out not pixel for pixel accurate. I fired many arms in my life andparticpated inalot of events that involve stuff like paintball shooting ect. and this CS by far stands out from other shooters by having one of the worst aiming systems. Some will say Im bad but hell you can not convience that the aiming system is like real life or that it's superior to other fps shooters on the market when you talk about pixel for pixel accuracy. Feel free to comment and debate....OoSuperMarioO

Funny, the reason it's popular is because the aiming requires so much skill. I hate to say it, but you're just not good.

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[QUOTE="tramp"]After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.OoSuperMarioO
Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.

Your crossair is on his head. Will it always hit? Of course not. But if you put the crossairs in the right spot and burst shot it, you win. CS revolves around headshots, and to get them you need to understand how to control the different recoils on all the weapons. It takes a looonng time to get it perfect.

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:| Are you kidding Cs 1.6 has some of the most action enthrilling gameplay its one of the reasons I still go to the occasional Lanparty. If you can't aim its because you don't know how to crouch properly ;__;
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If you want me to teach you I might still be able to. Haven't leagued in over a year though.
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="tramp"]After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.Koalakommander

Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.

Your crossair is on his head. Will it always hit? Of course not. But if you put the crossairs in the right spot and burst shot it, you win. CS revolves around headshots, and to get them you need to understand how to control the different recoils on all the weapons. It takes a looonng time to get it perfect.

CS revolves around headshots? Finally, some CS player let's it out of the bag. You guys always talk how you're about team work and stuff. Then in practicality all it is is just who gets the headshot the quickest. Maybe one or two team members will give a stuff about planting the bomb; even less want to escort the hostages.
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="tramp"]After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.FrozenLiquid

Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.

Your crossair is on his head. Will it always hit? Of course not. But if you put the crossairs in the right spot and burst shot it, you win. CS revolves around headshots, and to get them you need to understand how to control the different recoils on all the weapons. It takes a looonng time to get it perfect.

CS revolves around headshots? Finally, some CS player let's it out of the bag. You guys always talk how you're about team work and stuff. Then in practicality all it is is just who gets the headshot the quickest. Maybe one or two team members will give a stuff about planting the bomb; even less want to escort the hostages.

I'm sorry but while CS is a heavily team-orientated game -- you still have to kill people. And headshots are the quickest way to do it in that game 0_o.

The shooting revolves around trying to get headshots, the game itself revolves around teamwork. I shouldn't have to be this careful with what I say before I get called out as contradicting myself.

I guess if you had a 0.0001s reaction time and pin point accuracy you wouldn't need much of a team..

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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="tramp"]After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.FrozenLiquid

Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.

Your crossair is on his head. Will it always hit? Of course not. But if you put the crossairs in the right spot and burst shot it, you win. CS revolves around headshots, and to get them you need to understand how to control the different recoils on all the weapons. It takes a looonng time to get it perfect.

CS revolves around headshots? Finally, some CS player let's it out of the bag. You guys always talk how you're about team work and stuff. Then in practicality all it is is just who gets the headshot the quickest. Maybe one or two team members will give a stuff about planting the bomb; even less want to escort the hostages.

Well at least its a game that requires some skill you have to know what you're doing on it otherwise you're just cannon fodder for the better players on you're team.

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#41 shadow_702
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="tramp"]After all these years of playing CS I would have thought that you knew the game uses hitboxes, not per pixel hit detection.Koalakommander

Yea bud I was thinking the same. Yea I feel by the usage of the weapons including the aiming system makes it unique but it makes it frustrating knowing that you are an accurate shooter but yet the damn aiming system works in boxes rather then pixel for pixel. Iddk maybe Im not cut out for it but I will love to fullill this experience and master this due to I love shooters.

Your crossair is on his head. Will it always hit? Of course not. But if you put the crossairs in the right spot and burst shot it, you win. CS revolves around headshots, and to get them you need to understand how to control the different recoils on all the weapons. It takes a looonng time to get it perfect.

CS revolves around headshots? Finally, some CS player let's it out of the bag. You guys always talk how you're about team work and stuff. Then in practicality all it is is just who gets the headshot the quickest. Maybe one or two team members will give a stuff about planting the bomb; even less want to escort the hostages.

I'm sorry but while CS is a heavily team-orientated game -- you still have to kill people. And headshots are the quickest way to do it in that game 0_o.

The shooting revolves around trying to get headshots, the game itself revolves around teamwork. I shouldn't have to be this careful with what I say before I get called out as contradicting myself.

I guess if you had a 0.0001s reaction time and pin point accuracy you wouldn't need much of a team..

I like Aimbots. :D

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#42 FrozenLiquid
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I guess if you had a 0.0001s reaction time and pin point accuracy you wouldn't need much of a team.Koalakommander
That's how I feel when I play with/against guys who play CS 10/7.
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]I guess if you had a 0.0001s reaction time and pin point accuracy you wouldn't need much of a team.FrozenLiquid
That's how I feel when I play with/against guys who play CS 10/7.

Yeah well that's why CPL matches are so sick to watch. It's like superhumans vs superhumans.

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[QUOTE="mordeth90"]totally agree. got source cause the rest of my COD2 clan did, and well after playing COD and battlefield, the game was/is totally random.flclempire
The hit system is not random, you just have to learn how it works. You're telling of your cod fancies explains alot about you're misunderstanding of the combat system. See, in CS:S you require talent, the end.

The diffrence between someone who aims with a gun in CSS and one who pray and sprays is a couple kills at the end of a match
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Yea tell that to the people making money playing it. Source is a little worse in registration than 1.6 but that being said most ppl arent good enough to complain about the game so why you make this thread?
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#46 Khanezhyray
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Zomg a pc shooter isn't like real shoot-outs in real life? Say it ain't so! Its the most realistic shooter out there and like any game you have to learn how it works. Don't cry because it has a different set of physics and ballistics travel than real life, cry because its players are lame-asses and can't help but wall.flclempire

America's army is the most realistic, my friend.

As much as I hate AA, I will admit it's realistic. I hate AA more than CS, lol.

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#47 Killfox
Member since 2004 • 6666 Posts

All these years going back and forth to Cs it never changes my opinon that the aiming system is flat out not pixel for pixel accurate. I fired many arms in my life andparticpated inalot of events that involve stuff like paintball shooting ect. and this CS by far stands out from other shooters by having one of the worst aiming systems. Some will say Im bad but hell you can not convience that the aiming system is like real life or that it's superior to other fps shooters on the market when you talk about pixel for pixel accuracy. Feel free to comment and debate....OoSuperMarioO

Um how old is CS??? Thats why.

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#48 Zeliard9
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I always did find the Battlefield series to be 20x better than CS. TF2 is also better than Counterstrike. It doesn't generally take as much skill, but it's just plain funner. I put CS and Halo in the same boat, in that I think they are solid series, but their overall quality doesn't match their popularity. And both series seem to be a magnet for annoying 12 year olds.

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#49 p3anut
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cs is the best FPS multiplayer in the world, that's a fact. It's a game it doesnt have to be realistic.