Cows, give me one reason why the PS3 will win the System War.

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#1 princeofshapeir
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Come on, I'm waiting. So far, I haven't seen a single reason that has three things:

Common Sense.

A Non-Fanboyish Attitude.

Something that proves that the Wii can be beaten.

It's clear to me that Cows are confusing months with years now, so I'll be playing the "Just wait..." game, like so many of you Cows demand that we all play. You give an abundance of reasons why the PS3 is sooooo much better than the 360 (most of which have the words "Blu-Ray", "MGS4", or "Format War" in them), but most of them are idiotic or don't really prove how the Wii (sometimes even the 360) can be beaten. And while I'm waiting, here's a list of common reasons that I don't want to see:

1) MGS4 will sell so many PS3's that it will beat teh Wii, even though the Wii has sold 20,000,000+ units!

2) Sony will keep dropping teh price, so everybody will love it!

3) It narrowly beat the 360 and nearly beat the Wii in a month, so it will do the same in the next 3-4 years!

4) Blu-Ray is the winnarz of the "Format War", so the PS3 will now win "The System War"!

5) Any other exclusive title will make the PS3's sales magically double!

6) The 120 million PS2 users will switch to the PS3 (even if they had the chance to for the last year and three months)!

...Any other reason along the lines of these six fail. Now come on, convince me, Cows (If you can).

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The war is far from over. I think you sheep are getting a little ahead of yourselves.
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Nothing comes to mind. :?
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I'll take you seriously if you write this seriously. Besides winning is up to whatever you interpret it as.
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The war is far from over. I think you sheep are getting a little ahead of yourselves.JayPee89

Don't you think Cows are getting ahead of themselves when they claim they've won the war because of what a month has brought them?

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cows seem to think bluray and mgs are gonna make ps3 win.

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#7 SolidSnake35
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The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.
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1. PS3 is becoming cheaper by the second

2. 08 lineup appels to hardcore fans and casuals

3. PSN continually is getting better with additions like HOME

4. Blu ray is a big selling point as we continue toward HD era

5. Negative press on 360 makes PS3 look even better

now i'm not saing PS3 will win the console wars but it does have it's shot starting with 08

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The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.SolidSnake35

:lol:

That is really just sig-worthy. When you call the top-selling console of this generation a "children's toy", you automatically fail. Perhaps Cows need to stop posting pictures of Hermione all over their blog and realize that Microsoft isn't the only contender here.

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The PS3 could sell the most units, but it wouldn't win a console war. The PS3 will get a boost from the Blu-Ray victory, but it probably won't be enough and it won't sell the most software.
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2) Sony will keep dropping teh price, so everybody will love it!

4)Blu-Ray is the winnarz of the "Format War", so the PS3 will now win "The System War"!

5) Any other exclusive title will make the PS3's sales magically double!

princeofshapeir

Blu Ray's Victory certainly helps but it does not assures victory, The Price drops and the continuous releases of more appealing skus plus not just one title but a combination of many upcoming tiles( which is called a line up >_>) can make the Ps3 win ¿WHAT OTHER REASONS COULD THERE BE?.

Those very same reasons got it out of the crypt To Begin the slaughter.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.princeofshapeir

:lol:

That is really just sig-worthy. When you call the top-selling console of this generation a "children's toy", you automatically fail. Perhaps Cows need to stop posting pictures of Hermione all over their blog and realize that Microsoft isn't the only contender here.

Maybe you'd like to prove me wrong instead of replying with irrelevant ramblings regarding my blog. ^_^
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The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.SolidSnake35

damn right. the wii is so far ahead that it isnt fair to compare it to the ps3 and 360.

anyway, back to reality. funny how the Wii was in direct competition with the ps3 and 360 before it came out. now that is out and is easily beating the ps3 and 360 in sales, all of a sudden its not in direct competition?

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The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.SolidSnake35

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"]The war is far from over. I think you sheep are getting a little ahead of yourselves.princeofshapeir

Don't you think Cows are getting ahead of themselves when they claim they've won the war because of what a month has brought them?

Anyone who said that is just spewing fanboy nonsense. With that being said, I wouoldn't count out the PS3 just yet. With blu-ray finally coming out on top, and a fairly affordable unit on shelves sales will start to increase. Best Buy said they will begin pushing blu-ray hard, and I'm sure Wal-Mart will do the same. Anyone looking for a Blu-ray player will most likely at least have the PS3 suggested, and the majority of the Sony fanbase is still content with the PS2 atm. I think people are underestimating the power of the PlayStation brand. They've had 2 consecutive 100+ million selling consoles, and there is still an astronomical amount of people waiting for it to go down in price.
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One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

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The PS3 could sell the most units, but it wouldn't win a console war. The PS3 will get a boost from the Blu-Ray victory, but it probably won't be enough and it won't sell the most software.MushroomRevenge

i thought the system that won the console war sold the most units

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.Rogers_Wireless

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

Except Bluray players can't play PS3 games, and the Wii is a childs toy.
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I'll give you one word: Hollywood.
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One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

xTHExJUICEx

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.princeofshapeir

:lol:

That is really just sig-worthy. When you call the top-selling console of this generation a "children's toy", you automatically fail. Perhaps Cows need to stop posting pictures of Hermione all over their blog and realize that Microsoft isn't the only contender here.

So you insulting his sig makes you win?

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[QUOTE="MushroomRevenge"]The PS3 could sell the most units, but it wouldn't win a console war. The PS3 will get a boost from the Blu-Ray victory, but it probably won't be enough and it won't sell the most software.ogvampire

i thought the system that won the console war sold the most units

Yeah I phrased that wrong. It could sell the most but it won't have nearly as many gamers as the Wii.
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#25 Rogers_Wireless
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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.SolidSnake35

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

Except Bluray players can't play PS3 games, and the Wii is a childs toy.

funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:

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#26 SolidSnake35
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I don't really think I need to prove somebody as ignorant as you wrong. Perhaps you should prove to me why the Wii is a "children's toy". If you're calling a gaming console a children's toy, then isn't the PS3 a child's plaything as well?princeofshapeir
I'm not ignorant. I've played both, and the Wii's subpar games are a result of keeping the price very low. They could all be done better on another console, and the fact that Brawl is supposedly better played with a GameCube controller is just sad and further evidence of this. Ultimately, a low price appeals to parents looking to buy their child a games console, and this is what Nintendo opted for.
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

2) Sony will keep dropping teh price, so everybody will love it!

4)Blu-Ray is the winnarz of the "Format War", so the PS3 will now win "The System War"!

5) Any other exclusive title will make the PS3's sales magically double!

AgentA-Mi6

Blu Ray's Victory certainly helps but it does not assures victory, The Price drops and the continuous releases of more appealing skus plus not just one title but a combination of many upcoming tiles( which is called a line up >_>) can make the Ps3 win ¿WHAT OTHER REASONS COULD THERE BE?.

Those very same reasons got it out of the crypt To Begin the slaughter.


I never said you didn't need to give me a good lineup of 2008 games for the PS3. I simply said you shouldn't be pointing at one single game and saying, "THERE! LOOK! THERE'S YOUR REASON FOR WINNING THE WAR!"
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i see my wii as a side console beside my ps3 and pc :oops: sorry
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#29 xTHExJUICEx
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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

princeofshapeir

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

How was the PS3 able to out sale the 360 last year? When supposibly the 360 had the best gaming libary, best controller, and best online service.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

xTHExJUICEx

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

How was the PS3 able to out sale the 360 last year?

what? link? :|

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funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:Rogers_Wireless
And that has what to do with it being a child's toy? No one said the games would be terrible by default; they're just not comparable to those on the PS3. Also, lower standards for the Wii result in higher review scores. For example, the graphics. If a PS3 game was released with Wii-type graphics, it would undoubtedly be criticized and suffer for it in the reviews.
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

xTHExJUICEx

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

How was the PS3 able to out sale the 360 last year? When supposibly the 360 had the best gaming libary, best controller, and best online service.

um, cows...there's a console called wii, and it's kicking your godstation3's ass

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.Rogers_Wireless

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

Except Bluray players can't play PS3 games, and the Wii is a childs toy.

funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:

PS3 still has a better lineup.

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[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

Rogers_Wireless

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

How was the PS3 able to out sale the 360 last year?

what? link? :|

After the price drop just before the holiday season, the PS3 did sell more than 360. But overall 360 sales are still higher.
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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:SolidSnake35
And that has what to do with it being a child's toy? No one said the games would be terrible by default; they're just not comparable to those on the PS3. Also, lower standards for the Wii result in higher review scores. For example, the graphics. If a PS3 game was released with Wii-type graphics, it would undoubtedly be criticized and suffer for it in the reviews.

as far as i'm concerned, SMG has better graphics than any ps3 game. :|
you can discredit the wii all you want as long as it helps you sleep better :lol:

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um, cows...there's a console called wii, and it's kicking your godstation3's assRogers_Wireless
The fact that you have to remind people this only fuels my point.......
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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.Ragnarok1051

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

Except Bluray players can't play PS3 games, and the Wii is a childs toy.

funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:

PS3 still has a better lineup.

yet it has no AAAe on gamespot OR gamerankings

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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]The PS3 doesn't need to beat the Wii, just like it doesn't need to beat all of the other children's toys in the bargain bin. The Wii isn't in direct competition as far as I'm concerned.Ragnarok1051

if wii's a child's toy then ps3's just a bluray player :|

Except Bluray players can't play PS3 games, and the Wii is a childs toy.

funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:

PS3 still has a better lineup.

that's an opinion. wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 is a fact :|

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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]

One reason...

Sony Playstation 3

Name reconition!

SkullboyX

Is that supposed to be ajoke? Because it's a rather poor one. If it's a legitimate reason, I still consider it a poor attempt at humor.

How was the PS3 able to out sale the 360 last year?

what? link? :|

After the price drop just before the holiday season, the PS3 did sell more than 360.

yes, to retailers

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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]um, cows...there's a console called wii, and it's kicking your godstation3's assSolidSnake35
The fact that you have to remind people this only fuels my point.......

what, the point that cows discredit anything that's beating the ps3 instead of admitting the ps3 isn't beating it?

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:Rogers_Wireless

And that has what to do with it being a child's toy? No one said the games would be terrible by default; they're just not comparable to those on the PS3. Also, lower standards for the Wii result in higher review scores. For example, the graphics. If a PS3 game was released with Wii-type graphics, it would undoubtedly be criticized and suffer for it in the reviews.

as far as i'm concerned, SMG has better graphics than any ps3 game. :|
you can discredit the wii all you want as long as it helps you sleep better :lol:

And here's where you lose all credibility.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:Rogers_Wireless

And that has what to do with it being a child's toy? No one said the games would be terrible by default; they're just not comparable to those on the PS3. Also, lower standards for the Wii result in higher review scores. For example, the graphics. If a PS3 game was released with Wii-type graphics, it would undoubtedly be criticized and suffer for it in the reviews.

as far as i'm concerned, SMG has better graphics than any ps3 game. :|
you can discredit the wii all you want as long as it helps you sleep better :lol:

If it's not HD, I don't care. It makes all the difference. ^_^ Okay, I shall. I feel I have a right to whine about the Wii. I paid for one and so far it has been a total waste of money.
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I don't really think I need to prove somebody as ignorant as you wrong. Perhaps you should prove to me why the Wii is a "children's toy". If you're calling a gaming console a children's toy, then isn't the PS3 a child's plaything as well?SolidSnake35
I'm not ignorant. I've played both, and the Wii's subpar games are a result of keeping the price very low. They could all be done better on another console, and the fact that Brawl is supposedly better played with a GameCube controller is just sad and further evidence of this. Ultimately, a low price appeals to parents looking to buy their child a games console, and this is what Nintendo opted for.

You haven't played Brawl. You don't know what control scheme works well. I consider it my most anticipated game of 2008, and I'll be using the Wii Remote on its side, and with the Nunchuck. Both are said to work just as well.

Perhaps 2007's GOTY wasn't enough to convince you that the Wii is capable of superb games that outclass even the best PS3, 360, and PC titles. What you are doing here is looking at the very worst games for the Wii and automatically assuming they are standard Wii games.

Also, you, like many of your kind, are referring to the pricing of the Wii being a key part of its sales. But let's go back to what you called the Wii earlier: A child's toy. I'm pretty damn sure that no sensible parent would buy their young child a $250 toy. Nintendo did realize that pricing would be an advantageous part of the console war, but they've already added more reasons to buy a Wii then simply because of the price.

And, yes, you are ignorant once you start labeling the Wii in a different class than the PS3 and 360.

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#44 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]I don't really think I need to prove somebody as ignorant as you wrong. Perhaps you should prove to me why the Wii is a "children's toy". If you're calling a gaming console a children's toy, then isn't the PS3 a child's plaything as well?SolidSnake35
I'm not ignorant. I've played both, and the Wii's subpar games are a result of keeping the price very low. They could all be done better on another console, and the fact that Brawl is supposedly better played with a GameCube controller is just sad and further evidence of this. Ultimately, a low price appeals to parents looking to buy their child a games console, and this is what Nintendo opted for.

first bolded statement: comletely unrelated. do your fingers type without your brain knowing? cause some of your posts lead me to think that

second bolded statement: nintendo is giving you the option of using a different control setup instead of FORCING one upon you that may compromise the integrity of the game *looks at Lair in dissapointment*

third bolded statement: im 28 and i have a wii. my neighbors bought a ps3 for their 8 year-old, i guess the ps3 IS a childs toy.

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#45 Adrian_Cloud
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Brand Loyalty
Increased User Base
Forerunner in Blu-ray and High Def media
Great line-up of games
Has proven that it can beat its competition before...etc
Home,HDD in all models,DD 7.1,Free online,Wifi.... could all be reasons i guess.
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#46 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]um, cows...there's a console called wii, and it's kicking your godstation3's assshoeman12

The fact that you have to remind people this only fuels my point.......

what, the point that cows discredit anything that's beating the ps3 instead of admitting the ps3 isn't beating it?

Isn't the 360 beating the PS3? I don't recall anyone ever denying the 360's existence.
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#47 ReverseCycology
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The PS3 will win because it has free online....

...... for now.

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#48 Rogers_Wireless
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Brand Loyalty
Increased User Base
Forerunner in Blu-ray and High Def media
Great line-up of games
Has proven that it can beat its competition before...etc
Home,HDD in all models,DD 7.1,Free online,Wifi.... could all be reasons i guess.
Adrian_Cloud

brand loyalty? is that a joke? :lol:

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#49 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Rogers_Wireless"]funny how wii has 3 AAAEs more than ps3 plus the 07 GOTY. owned :lol:SolidSnake35

And that has what to do with it being a child's toy? No one said the games would be terrible by default; they're just not comparable to those on the PS3. Also, lower standards for the Wii result in higher review scores. For example, the graphics. If a PS3 game was released with Wii-type graphics, it would undoubtedly be criticized and suffer for it in the reviews.

as far as i'm concerned, SMG has better graphics than any ps3 game. :|
you can discredit the wii all you want as long as it helps you sleep better :lol:

If it's not HD, I don't care. It makes all the difference. ^_^ Okay, I shall. I feel I have a right to whine about the Wii. I paid for one and so far it has been a total waste of money.

Yes, you would like HD, wouldn't you? To stare at Hermione's exquisitely rendered lashes on Blu-Ray?

But that was a pretty nasty joke. I thought what the guy above you said was plenty stupid, but what you said was even stupider. By that logic, I guess that Crysis looks like crap, huh?

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#50 Darthmatt
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Technically, the PS3 could be used to form Skynet and nuke mankind.