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PC games like Bioshock, or Gears that comes out a year and a half after the fact are used against Lemmings as saying that the 360 cant use them as exclusives. Ok, but when it comes to AAAE, cows now say you cant go by that because Gamespot is only one source and you have to go by gamerankings. It seems like they like the rules when it benefits them, but when it doesnt, cows sing a different tune. Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

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PC games like Bioshock, or Gears that comes out a year and a half after the fact are used against Lemmings as saying that the 360 cant use them as exclusives. Ok, but when it comes to AAAE, cows now say you cant go by that because Gamespot is only one source and you have to go by gamerankings. It seems like they like the rules when it benefits them, but when it doesnt, cows sing a different tune. Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

Reyes360

dude are you ever gonna answer my question of why you hate sony so much? then i might be able to agree with some things your saying, instead of it seeming like your just going on and on for no reason

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The problem with your argument is that Gamespots reviews = oppinions. Bioshock/Gears existence on PC = fact. Going to IGN, or GR doesn't change a fact, but it can well change an oppinion.
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PC games like Bioshock, or Gears that comes out a year and a half after the fact are used against Lemmings as saying that the 360 cant use them as exclusives. Ok, but when it comes to AAAE, cows now say you cant go by that because Gamespot is only one source and you have to go by gamerankings. It seems like they like the rules when it benefits them, but when it doesnt, cows sing a different tune. Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

Reyes360

You just described fanboys logic- fanboys of all consoles, not just the PS3.

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I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

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The problem with your argument is that Gamespots reviews = oppinions. Bioshock/Gears existence on PC = fact. Going to IGN, or GR doesn't change a fact, but it can well change an oppinion.DerekLoffin
Review = opinion, however the score cannot be changed, which makes the score a fact. Which is what the TC is talking about.

Anyway, that's system wars for you.

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#9 samusarmada
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sony fans aren't the only ones to do this :roll:
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#10 Mordred19
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how is this exclusive to cows? this has been done by every side at one time or another. "well I won't go by this opinion, I'll go by this other one."
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quit crying and dont buy sony's junk, just dont tell me what i should prefer and we'll call it square
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I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

Reyes360
if i hated evey videogame company that lied to me then i wouldnt play games.
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#14 thageneral3
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Review = opinion, however the score cannot be changed, which makes the score a fact.

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PC games like Bioshock, or Gears that comes out a year and a half after the fact are used against Lemmings as saying that the 360 cant use them as exclusives. Ok, but when it comes to AAAE, cows now say you cant go by that because Gamespot is only one source and you have to go by gamerankings. It seems like they like the rules when it benefits them, but when it doesnt, cows sing a different tune. Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

Reyes360

Bioshock was a simultaneous, release (not to mention superior on the PC), and Gears was less than a year after release on the 360.

Otherwise, you're right. There is no such thing as a console exclusive.

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This thread contains logic. I'm sorry but we can't have that here. Casey will mod you for this.
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#17 Reyes360
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how is this exclusive to cows? this has been done by every side at one time or another. "well I won't go by this opinion, I'll go by this other one." Mordred19

ALL I know is when Mass Effect got AA on here I dealt with it even though I didnt agree with it, same as Crackdown getting A. I dealt with it and never squirmed out of the fact that it didnt get the score I wanted it to get. I go by the rules, I just wish the others would as well.

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Stop abusing me! :evil:
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lol, topicbutton was violated, but he's right blog your gripes
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I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

Reyes360

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

thrones

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

Yeah, and 720p standard (and violated that one right out of the gates with PGR).

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Stop abusing me! :evil:newtopicbutton
you're my hero.
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Same thing happens when any fanboy group doesn't have things go the way they want it to. ME was AAA pn many sites but AA here, same thing goes for TP. Just let it go.
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The problem with your argument is that Gamespots reviews = oppinions. Bioshock/Gears existence on PC = fact. Going to IGN, or GR doesn't change a fact, but it can well change an oppinion.DerekLoffin

This post brought to you by the word, "Win".

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#25 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

DerekLoffin

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

Yeah, and 720p standard (and violated that one right out of the gates with PGR).

Seriously? I didn't know this. Also, the 360 didn't come with HDMI originally..my Premium lacks it. On an alternate note, is it possible to trade in an old premium for a newer one? If not, I'm going to try and make mine go RROD for the 3rd time so I get a refurbed sent back with a HDMI port :)

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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]how is this exclusive to cows? this has been done by every side at one time or another. "well I won't go by this opinion, I'll go by this other one." Reyes360

ALL I know is when Mass Effect got AA on here I dealt with it even though I didnt agree with it, same as Crackdown getting A. I dealt with it and never squirmed out of the fact that it didnt get the score I wanted it to get. I go by the rules, I just wish the others would as well.

doesn't matter what you did. there were folks who cried and moaned and screamed "Cowspot!" "Bias!" "I'm using GR!"

so, cows are not the only ones who take numbers seriously and then change their tune when the wind changes.

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[QUOTE="newtopicbutton"]Stop abusing me! :evil:club-sandwich
you're my hero.

LOL

Reyes360, why do you hate sony so much? I still don't get it, and you don't even provide valid arguments.

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well who knows hopefully its a great year and the PS3 gets an AAAE within this decade
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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]how is this exclusive to cows? this has been done by every side at one time or another. "well I won't go by this opinion, I'll go by this other one." Mordred19

ALL I know is when Mass Effect got AA on here I dealt with it even though I didnt agree with it, same as Crackdown getting A. I dealt with it and never squirmed out of the fact that it didnt get the score I wanted it to get. I go by the rules, I just wish the others would as well.

doesn't matter what you did. there were folks who cried and moaned and screamed "Cowspot!" "Bias!" "I'm using GR!"

so, cows are not the only ones who take numbers seriously and then change their tune when the wind changes.

ok does the PS3 have one single AAAE ? yes or no, thanks.

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#33 WilliamRLBaker
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and so do lemmings whats your point?
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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

thrones

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

kind of like how sony still denies the dre and didn't extend the warranty to three years?

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and so do lemmings whats your point?WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

shoeman12

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

kind of like how sony still denies the dre and didn't extend the warranty to three years?

And MS sending people refurbished units that just break down soon after helps how? All these issues, DRE and RRoD are complete BS.

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#37 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

I hate SONY cause it lied to me as a consumer. 1080P Dual HDMI at 120 FPS ring a tune. What they did in 2005 E3 was unethical and lies lies lies. Cows make my stomach turn. Sick of just "WAITING" and Lair type games.

shoeman12

You aware that very early on Microsoft denied RROD?

kind of like how sony still denies the dre and didn't extend the warranty to three years?

Because..DRE is really not as bad? I mean, people are exaggerating both problems to be honest. All electronic hardware have a certain acceptable range of failure. My LCD TV once broke, that doesn't mean all Samsung products are terrible, terrible things.

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[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]how is this exclusive to cows? this has been done by every side at one time or another. "well I won't go by this opinion, I'll go by this other one." Reyes360

ALL I know is when Mass Effect got AA on here I dealt with it even though I didnt agree with it, same as Crackdown getting A. I dealt with it and never squirmed out of the fact that it didnt get the score I wanted it to get. I go by the rules, I just wish the others would as well.

doesn't matter what you did. there were folks who cried and moaned and screamed "Cowspot!" "Bias!" "I'm using GR!"

so, cows are not the only ones who take numbers seriously and then change their tune when the wind changes.

ok does the PS3 have one single AAAE ? yes or no, thanks.

and you just changed the subject.

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Well SW is kind of in limbo right now since the whole Kane and Lynch fiasco. It didn't make much sense before to just go by GS scores alone, but it was convenient and simple. However, the new review system (going by .5) is crap to begin with, and that was before we knew the scores were influnced by outside parties. So yeah, it makes more sense to use Gamerankings now, but a large group of posters here don't acknowledge that and it hasn't been made "law" so its up in the air.

And giving Mass Effect a AAA score is wrong. No matter how good the game is, you can't overlook the plentiful amount of technical problems that the game has.

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Well SW is kind of in limbo right now since the whole Kane and Lynch fiasco. It didn't make much sense before to just go by GS scores alone, but it was convenient and simple. However, the new review system (going by .5) is crap to begin with, and that was before we knew the scores were influnced by outside parties. So yeah, it makes more sense to use Gamerankings now, but a large group of posters here don't acknowledge that and it hasn't been made "law" so its up in the air.

And giving Mass Effect a AAA score is wrong. No matter how good the game is, you can't overlook the plentiful amount of technical problems that the game has.

Weapons_Free

so basically we should go by gamerankings except for mass effect, which is AAA on gamerankings?

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doesn't matter what you did. there were folks who cried and moaned and screamed "Cowspot!" "Bias!" "I'm using GR!"

so, cows are not the only ones who take numbers seriously and then change their tune when the wind changes.

ok does the PS3 have one single AAAE ? yes or no, thanks.

and you just changed the subject.

once again Cows run and have excuses. whatever

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He's not a cow, you did change the subject, and that's not an excuse. You managed to fail x3 in one post, gratz to you!
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[QUOTE="Weapons_Free"]

Well SW is kind of in limbo right now since the whole Kane and Lynch fiasco. It didn't make much sense before to just go by GS scores alone, but it was convenient and simple. However, the new review system (going by .5) is crap to begin with, and that was before we knew the scores were influnced by outside parties. So yeah, it makes more sense to use Gamerankings now, but a large group of posters here don't acknowledge that and it hasn't been made "law" so its up in the air.

And giving Mass Effect a AAA score is wrong. No matter how good the game is, you can't overlook the plentiful amount of technical problems that the game has.

shoeman12

so basically we should go by gamerankings except for mass effect, which is AAA on gamerankings?

No. Go with gamerankings. I wouldn't give the game a AAA because of its constant technical flaws. Thats an opinion.

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Reyes360

doesn't matter what you did. there were folks who cried and moaned and screamed "Cowspot!" "Bias!" "I'm using GR!"

so, cows are not the only ones who take numbers seriously and then change their tune when the wind changes.

ok does the PS3 have one single AAAE ? yes or no, thanks.

and you just changed the subject.

once again Cows run and have excuses. whatever

we were talking about fanboys. I said all sides are guilty of hypocrisy. suddenly, out of the blue, you brought up the AAAE issue. for one thing, you shouldn't be asking me, because I never changed my personal rules for following reviews. I'm not a hypocrite, and I'm not a cow. this is the best you can do? you call me a cow, even though my collection of games says otherwise. you are an immature person who can't even finish an arguement that you started.

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#45 SOedipus
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Any fanboy will try to change the rules when it benefits them....

Edit: Just look at the sales argument. The Sony fanboys had that one for awhile, then it shifted to Microsoft, and now Nintendo. Not saying they all do, just generalizing. The same could be said about graphics and so on.

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PC games like Bioshock, or Gears that comes out a year and a half after the fact are used against Lemmings as saying that the 360 cant use them as exclusives. Ok, but when it comes to AAAE, cows now say you cant go by that because Gamespot is only one source and you have to go by gamerankings. It seems like they like the rules when it benefits them, but when it doesnt, cows sing a different tune. Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

Reyes360

Right. Only the cows cherry pick which rules they follow when it benefits them, or what sites are credible when it suits them. No other fanboy group ever does this.

Which reminds me...why can't we use other sites reviews again?

Although I think the PC arguement is stupid. Many people such as myself aren't into PC gaming and the game being ported to or from PC isn't going to stop me from buying as console.

p.s. Your two examples are not contrary or hypocritical at all so it is difficult to see how they prove cows only go buy rules when it benefits them. Exclusives vs Gamerankings scores have nothing to do with each other.

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Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

Reyes360

And yet, with that inferior game library, they still outsold the Xbox360 in 2007. Oh the shame.

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[QUOTE="samusarmada"]sony fans aren't the only ones to do this :roll:Reyes360

QFT

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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

Its crazy that the PS3 still doesnt have an AAAE and its now been around for about 16 months.

unasyn

And yet, with that inferior game library, they still outsold the Xbox360 in 2007. Oh the shame.

in shipped units;)

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Score this, score that. What's wrong with AAE games? What's wrong with AE games? Nothing! You're just picking on the PS3 fans because none of the exclusive games was never given over a 9 and now they use other sites to show that the game is decent and you're like "naw this is GS **** off". The score dosen't mean anything, you can rate a game 1/10 when maybe someone else thinks it's the best game in the world. What if this happened to 360? I'm pretty sure you would do the same.