Crackdown 3... your new downgrade king!

I have to ask, what the hell happened in all those years of development? How did they end up going from this...

... to this?

Forget all that Puddlegate shit. THIS is a downgrade, folks. It's not even the average downgrade, this is a con job of the highest order. Video game's biggest lie to date. We've went from boasts of physics-based destruction the likes unseen using the power of the cloud to break cities down to the smallest crumb, to chunky neon Lego-esque Tron towers clunking apart Jenga style when shot.

I'm thinking they should have just dropped the MP mode. There's no damage controlling this damage.

Game looks like a 360 game the graphics are from last gen they called they want them back

Looks pretty terrible. What's up with the auto-aim?

Looks cool on the destruction parts. I'm anticipating the SP more however and I doubt any Xbox fans expects the graphics to be radical. Hopefully, this is fun to play on PC. Still sad they won't have the destructibility in the SP though. Glad this will be on Game Pass through the PC so I won't have to pay full price.

And this game has been in development hell for so long, Crackdown 3 lost alot of hype surrounding it.

I thought this game was on xbox one, not the first xbox.

I only played Crackdown 1, and that had a target lock from what I remember. But I don't know why they'd do it for a multiplayer mode. Ew!

@BenjaminBanklin: a.) this is mid-tier quality stream. b.) the game's not out yet. c.) it's the multiplayer mode d.) it didn't look good to begin with

Don't ruin his thread with facts.

facts are the enemy of the peep holes.

Lol... talk about clutching at straws.

I guess you cows haven't had much to cheer about lately. How's that blurry mess that is RDR2 on Pro going? Lol!

Game releases in February does it not?

At least wait until release before claiming downgrade.

Also, how can you compare with that horrible stream?

What exactly are you debating here? This game was sold on this...

However anybody thought it looked, it's not anywhere close to that.

Well there you have it, lems waited for 5 long years for a 360 game .

It's a miracle this game is even coming out.

I’m not sure what kind of gamer you are, but that looks insanely fun. I’ll take gameplay over graphics any day.

If I were stuck on a desert island with one game to play, I’d pick Asteroids on the 2600 over something only worth one play through like a Last of Us or some qte story game.

Gameplay > graphics...every time.

So you're expecting a big technological leap between now and February? It took us five years to get to this point.

So what happens when you end up with a game that can boast neither? This is Crackdown. after all.

@BenjaminBanklin said:

What exactly are you debating here? This game was sold on this...

However anybody thought it looked, it's not anywhere close to that.

Really? How many people who bought the game was disappointed with the end product because they were deceived and cheated out money?

@Pedro said:

@BenjaminBanklin said:

What exactly are you debating here? This game was sold on this...

However anybody thought it looked, it's not anywhere close to that.

Really? How many people who bought the game was disappointed with the end product because they were deceived and cheated out money?

"Downgrades are only okay when Xbox does it"

What are these downgrades again? You seem to be saying stuff without actual thought.

@BenjaminBanklin said:

@Pedro said:

@BenjaminBanklin said:

What exactly are you debating here? This game was sold on this...

However anybody thought it looked, it's not anywhere close to that.

Really? How many people who bought the game was disappointed with the end product because they were deceived and cheated out money?

"Downgrades are only okay when Xbox does it"

That was only a tech demo. So you keep thinking that was going to be in the actual game?

Why wouldn't people think it was in the game? They didn't say it was a target render, they said it was in-game footage. So you're practically defending that they had the right to lie to everyone at this point.

I thought it was common knowledge that it had a downgrade. Pretty clear to see I more worried about the gameplay definitely looking a bit suspect.

I love a good downgrade

No they didn't. That was behind closed doors showing only alpha tech demo of how the cloud destruction might work. The company doing that got bought by Epic years ago. They didn't lie at all about about the cloud destruction.

Downgrades are even more fun for the people who were never interested in said game.

The gameplay always looked bleh, it's just that they sat on the MP footage for the longest time, and now we know why. It was too ambitious initially to have any functional application, and now it looks far less than impressive. It looks like Agents of Mayhem 2.

The Cows are just mad that Spiderman got a downgrade. ?

Fun times ahead for Xbox gamers and more waiting for the bovines. ?

The game hasn't been sold at all. Also, that's the single player. The video posted is a new multiplayer mode. Two separate things.

@BenjaminBanklin said:

@IMAHAPYHIPPO said:

@BenjaminBanklin: a.) this is mid-tier quality stream. b.) the game's not out yet. c.) it's the multiplayer mode d.) it didn't look good to begin with

What exactly are you debating here? This game was sold on this...

However anybody thought it looked, it's not anywhere close to that.

You're comparing a tech demo with actual gameplay and suggesting that ms claimed the tech demo was indicative of the final product?

Try skipping to the 14.30 mark where they spoke about it not being practical to have that level of destruction because you wouldn't even be able to traverse through all the rubble.

Silly attempt.

From what i read from insiders tweeting, delay was due to MS having to redo the cloud based destruction after Cloudgine was bought by Epic. Looks like MS had to start over from scratch and held up there end of doing cloud based destruction for multiplayer as planned from the beginning, just unforseen circumstances.

Finally, Crackdown 3 will be a average game that will be a lot of fun with co-op campaign and the full on chaos of multiplayer.

Edit: so looks like i was wrong. Still using what cloudgine worked on Just needed to build up the data servers. Good interview and looks like a lot of the naysayers will be eating crow.

https://www.windowscentral.com/inside-crackdown-3s-azure-cloud-powered-destruction?amp&__twitter_impression=true

It literally says "pre-alpha IN GAME FOOTAGE" right in the damn clip that gif came from. Whatever code that company had would get passed off the the next group of devs. C'mon, man. If any other company did this, they'd get dragged over the coals.

They're more fun to see the people trying to put out the fires. You got conned. You're getting mad at the wrong people about it.

Oh, so now Spider-Man got a downgrade because of a puddle, and not the Crackdown MP mode that looks like a bunch of of glowy Lego bricks now. LOL! That's why MS loves you guys because you're the easiest faction in gaming to con.

You need to look at the video I last posted when they called it in-game footage. There's no out from this.

It will be another sea of thieves fun for what it is but not the AAA blockbuster MS need. Nowhere near the PS4 quality of exclusive.

@BenjaminBanklin: What video? The gif? The video you asked us to compare was a tech demo of pre alpha OFF screen footage.

Buildings are still destroyed in real time - not scripted, and if you're telling me the GAME looks better and more playable in the tech demo, you're talking nonsense because it wasn't a game!

@daredevils2k: Isnt that the story of this gen? This might as well be another B/C thread.

Oh noes! How am I going to sleep at night?

*spoiler* I’ll sleep just fine.

This video. IN... GAME... FOOTAGE, they claimed.

Game looks great ... the dynamic destruction seems pretty dope

Yooooo! Wtf?! That looks awful. Omg just cancel it.

This game didn’t get canned? What a sick joke.

@robert_sparkes: Yea, no QTEs or crafting a shiv to kill the same zombie over, and over, and over again.

What is that? They borrowed the destruction engine from the original Red Faction? Good job i guess.

@hrt_rulz01:

Damage control much. Still looks better than this cartoon downgraded mess.

super stylized, minimal detail, but I wouldn't say it looks bad - more cartoony. And I think the destruction looks fun. Reminds me of how excited I was to break stuff in Red Faction, but more extensive

Put this in my edit but will post again. Very good interview. MS and EA with project atlas look to be paving the way with enhancing games in new ways. Crackdown was never a graphical showcase but brought the mayhem and explosive co-op gameplay. Haters gonna hate but what Crackdown 3 is pulling off with multiplayer is awesome.

https://www.windowscentral.com/inside-crackdown-3s-azure-cloud-powered-destruction?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Does it? RDR looked pretty bad on Pro.

Anyway, I was never impressed with what they showed of Crackdown 3 graphically. It was never going to be a graphical powerhouse. I think cows just want something to make themselves feel better.

Looks like Saints Row 4 had a baby with Red Faction: Guerilla... Yeesh.

But for real, destruction like that takes CPU power and the consoles just... they just don't have it. "teh cloud" can only help so much. And besides, the game was never a looker anyway.