Crackdown : Is It Considered a Flop Or Not?

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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also does flop means a game not selling as expected or not receiving its hyped score?
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#2 psychic_zebra
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Flop- A game that has not lived up to System Wars expectations, such as when a game is hyped AAA and gets below AAA status, or when a game is hyped to a certain score and fails to achieve it. DOES NOT determine the worth of the game.


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#3 Huxley_00
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a flop means a game got a lower score than was predicted here on gamespot.. Crackdown was hyped to be AA.. it got a 7.8 so yes it flopped..
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sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.
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#5 Baird-06
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It's a flop, get over it. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's a bad game.
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#6 eastside49er
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Flop according to SW rules, but in the real spectrum of things, it isn't even close to being a flop. It will sell well over 1 million copies and every review so far has said they like the game (a 7 in most places is above average, but Crackdown is getting more 8s and 9s than 7s and I believe it hasn't got below a 7+ yet). Great sales + review praise = successful game IMO.

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Flop - The only reason this game will sell is because Microsoft are forcing Lemmings to pay for a Beta, which they will in vast numbers. There may be a second phase of "beta" for Halo attached to the next below average game to force more sale...... They could keep this up till Halo 3 is released :D Imagine the sales.
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#8 pins_basic
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sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Tamarind_Face
I can't believe people are ignorant enough to call it a GTA rip off. It's created by the creator of GTA, how can he rip himself off? Plus it plays diffrent to GTA, the only similarity is that is a sandbox. As for whether it flopped... YES it did.
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#9 whoisryanmack
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in gamespot system wars, it flopped. in real life, it did not flop.
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#10 BK-Sleeper
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System wars, flopped. Real life, didn't flop what so ever.
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#11 S0DA_POPINSKI
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Yeah its a flop in SW. Just like Zelda TP and RFoM. But in real life its not a flop at all. None of them are.
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Yeah its a flop in SW. Just like Zelda TP and RFoM. But in real life its not a flop at all. None of them are.S0DA_POPINSKI
You do understand that RFOM also got AA on gamerankings right? stop trolling the forums man!
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.pins_basic
I can't believe people are ignorant enough to call it a GTA rip off. It's created by the creator of GTA, how can he rip himself off? Plus it plays diffrent to GTA, the only similarity is that is a sandbox. As for whether it flopped... YES it did.

he created the original GTA, the one which sucked.
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[QUOTE="pins_basic"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Tamarind_Face
I can't believe people are ignorant enough to call it a GTA rip off. It's created by the creator of GTA, how can he rip himself off? Plus it plays diffrent to GTA, the only similarity is that is a sandbox. As for whether it flopped... YES it did.

he created the original GTA, the one which sucked.

But it spawned all the great GTA's you've come to loved. Saying the original sucked is just like saying all the others sucked.
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#15 S0DA_POPINSKI
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[QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"]Yeah its a flop in SW. Just like Zelda TP and RFoM. But in real life its not a flop at all. None of them are.Huxley_00
You do understand that RFOM also got AA on gamerankings right? stop trolling the forums man!

Um RFOM was hyped as AAA-AAAA here in SW. So it flopped.

But in real life, its the only game on PS3 worth owning that is not on another system. It also sold very well for the amount of PS3s there are out. So it was a success.

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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"]Yeah its a flop in SW. Just like Zelda TP and RFoM. But in real life its not a flop at all. None of them are.S0DA_POPINSKI

You do understand that RFOM also got AA on gamerankings right? stop trolling the forums man!

Um RFOM was hyped as AAA-AAAA here in SW. So it flopped.

But in real life, its the only game on PS3 worth owning that is not on another system. It also sold very well for the amount of PS3s there are out. So it was a success.

yea.. it was hyped AAA so in real life it also flopped cause it got an average score of AA.. w/e though :(
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#17 BK-Sleeper
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[QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"]

[QUOTE="Huxley_00"][QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"]Yeah its a flop in SW. Just like Zelda TP and RFoM. But in real life its not a flop at all. None of them are.Huxley_00

You do understand that RFOM also got AA on gamerankings right? stop trolling the forums man!

Um RFOM was hyped as AAA-AAAA here in SW. So it flopped.

But in real life, its the only game on PS3 worth owning that is not on another system. It also sold very well for the amount of PS3s there are out. So it was a success.

yea.. it was hyped AAA so in real life it also flopped cause it got an average score of AA.. w/e though :(

Because of RFOM, we should rename the PS3, the ResistanceBox 3.
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From what I have seen, Resistance hasn't sold well either. Any way, review wise, the game isn't a flop outside of system wars. The sales argument is on going.
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sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Tamarind_Face
Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Taiko88

Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

I have played the demo... And the game has only two things to do, race and shoot dudes. While GTA has tons of missions and variety in them, oh and GTA has a story. For me Crackdown flopped and its not based on GS' review.
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#21 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"]

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Tamarind_Face

Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

I have played the demo... And the game has only two things to do, race and shoot dudes. While GTA has tons of missions and variety in them, oh and GTA has a story. For me Crackdown flopped and its not based on GS' review.

This game was never hyped or made for its story line, everyone knew it has a weak storyline. What is unique about this game is the purity in the Sandbox, no limits, while in San Andreas, you only could go to one place before you did a mission to get to another, in this you can experiment, the world is yours to mold.
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Taiko88

Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

I have played the demo... And the game has only two things to do, race and shoot dudes. While GTA has tons of missions and variety in them, oh and GTA has a story. For me Crackdown flopped and its not based on GS' review.

This game was never hyped or made for its story line, everyone knew it has a weak storyline. What is unique about this game is the purity in the Sandbox, no limits, while in San Andreas, you only could go to one place before you did a mission to get to another, in this you can experiment, the world is yours to mold.

Still. It could do with a storyline. . .
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#23 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"][QUOTE="Taiko88"]

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.BK-Sleeper

Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

I have played the demo... And the game has only two things to do, race and shoot dudes. While GTA has tons of missions and variety in them, oh and GTA has a story. For me Crackdown flopped and its not based on GS' review.

This game was never hyped or made for its story line, everyone knew it has a weak storyline. What is unique about this game is the purity in the Sandbox, no limits, while in San Andreas, you only could go to one place before you did a mission to get to another, in this you can experiment, the world is yours to mold.

Still. It could do with a storyline. . .

Wait for Crackdown 2, you'll see....where have I heard that before :p
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#24 BK-Sleeper
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I have played the demo... Tamarind_Face
That made me lawl.
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#25 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]I have played the demo... BK-Sleeper
That made me lawl.

You make me lawl. In a weird sort of way. *blushes* lol jp
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[QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]I have played the demo... Taiko88
That made me lawl.

You make me lawl. In a weird sort of way. *blushes* lol jp

You scare me Taiko.
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#27 Taiko88
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[QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]I have played the demo... BK-Sleeper
That made me lawl.

You make me lawl. In a weird sort of way. *blushes* lol jp

You scare me Taiko.

So do you, like when u posted that weird comment in my now dying post.
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#28 BK-Sleeper
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[QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Taiko88"][QUOTE="BK-Sleeper"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]I have played the demo... Taiko88
That made me lawl.

You make me lawl. In a weird sort of way. *blushes* lol jp

You scare me Taiko.

So do you, like when u posted that weird comment in my now dying post.

That was funny.
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#29 Rage010101
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yes.. it is very much so a flop.  move on...
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#30 danneswegman
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the whole FLOP thing is just a ridiculous fanboy hate tool. It just means a game didn't get the score it was hyped for. Has nothing to do with the game actually selling good or bad (although some insecure boys will be effected by it i guess)
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#31 gtx-1
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[QUOTE="psychic_zebra"]Flop- A game that has not lived up to System Wars expectations, such as when a game is hyped AAA and gets below AAA status, or when a game is hyped to a certain score and fails to achieve it. DOES NOT determine the worth of the game.



You could have just said Crackdown flopped.

CD simply flopped, alot of people hyped it AA, and I saw some AAA in there. It flopped, get over it and enjoy the game.
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#32 Magical_Zebra
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also does flop means a game not selling as expected or not receiving its hyped score? Mystery_Writer
I have been waiting for this game since it was announced. I will be picking up my copy tomorrow, I never take games back and in my opinion the demo justifies me buying this game.
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#33 heretrix
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sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Tamarind_Face
The only thing that it has in common with GTA is that it's an open world sanbox game and that you can jack cars and fight gangs. it's a really fun game.... 
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#34 Spartan070
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0.2 points off is not enough for it to be ragged on, although technically it flopped.
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#35 Spartan070
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yes.. it is very much so a flop.  move on...Rage010101
Very much so? 0.2 points is not very much so.....
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#36 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]yes.. it is very much so a flop. move on...Spartan070
Very much so? 0.2 points is not very much so.....



Dude a flop is a flop regardless of how you see it. Whether it ranged from 7.0-7.9 it's still very much so a flop! I think you're taking "very much so" as a weighing factor to determine the score... No I am not doing that at all. All I'm stating is that it is FACT that it flopped! Anyway, you guys need to get over CD flopping, it's not worth the damage control with a 7.8! Now hypothetically, if a big game for example Halo3 flopped, it would be a game worth defending and creating damage control for it. So just move on man, you guys are making a big fuss over some game that scored really low. Also I would just like to add that I wouldn't be surprised if CaseyWegner came and here and said it flopped, end of thread, move on. What do you think those "official prediction" threads are for? In there he even says it himself, It flopped man. It's not the end of the world geez. You guys are making a mess out of CD...Imagine what it would be like if Halo3 flopped... there would probably be massive wrist cutting going on. It's just a game guys....
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#37 KeyWii
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It was hyped AA and received an A. Verdict: FLOP.
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Flop - The only reason this game will sell is because Microsoft are forcing Lemmings to pay for a Beta, which they will in vast numbers. There may be a second phase of "beta" for Halo attached to the next below average game to force more sale...... They could keep this up till Halo 3 is released :D Imagine the sales.

360 hater at all?
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[QUOTE="Huxley_00"]a flop means a game got a lower score than was predicted here on gamespot.. Crackdown was hyped to be AA.. it got a 7.8 so yes it flopped..



But just a little.
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Wii Play will also sell very good.
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#41 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="Huxley_00"]a flop means a game got a lower score than was predicted here on gamespot.. Crackdown was hyped to be AA.. it got a 7.8 so yes it flopped..



But just a little.



a flop is a flop PERIOD
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#42 lawlessx
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yes its a flop..but can you really make a big deal out of something that wasn't even hyped to be really good?
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#43 Rage010101
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yes its a flop..but can you really make a big deal out of something that wasn't even hyped to be really good?lawlessx


It wasn't a big deal until SOME people started arguing why it's not a flop.  People should just accept it's a flop and let this thread die already.  If anyone likes CD that's fine... but don't try to say it's not a flop when the majority thinks otherwise...
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#44 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]yes its a flop..but can you really make a big deal out of something that wasn't even hyped to be really good?Rage010101


It wasn't a big deal until SOME people started arguing why it's not a flop. People should just accept it's a flop and let this thread die already. If anyone likes CD that's fine... but don't try to say it's not a flop when the majority thinks otherwise...

actually i do recall alot of threads made by cows making crackdown flopping into a big deal...the posts you saw saying crackdown isnt a huge flop were answering to those threads that made crackdown flopping seem as big as zelda flopping
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#45 Benihana7
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I believe the official hype on it was AA, so yea, it's a flop by SW standards of course.
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]sigh were here in system wars... And by the way stop the damage control lemms its been days since the release of the review. Cmon its just a lame GTA rip off.Taiko88

Have you played the game? No, so please stop talking cow.

Also the guy is asking, not bragging about it saying it's not.

I played the game, the game sucks.
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#47 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]yes its a flop..but can you really make a big deal out of something that wasn't even hyped to be really good?lawlessx


It wasn't a big deal until SOME people started arguing why it's not a flop. People should just accept it's a flop and let this thread die already. If anyone likes CD that's fine... but don't try to say it's not a flop when the majority thinks otherwise...

actually i do recall alot of threads made by cows making crackdown flopping into a big deal...the posts you saw saying crackdown isnt a huge flop were answering to those threads that made crackdown flopping seem as big as zelda flopping



nah it's in no way as big as the zelda incident.  zelda was huge... I myself thought it would score AAA for sure and it flopped and I never denied it once.  Is it a great game... in my opinion very much so, it depends on the gamer.  I thought crackdown would get AA, yet it flopped scoring an A.  Is it a great game?... in my opinion no...again,  it depends on the gamer.Â