Crysis 1 looks better then crysis 2. Can anyone guess why?

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#1 tenaka2
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How come the sequal to crysis looks worse then the first game?

Its really strange given the time difference.

Can anyone figure out a reason?

its really weirde!

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#2 JangoWuzHere
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Oh look, another another Crysis thread. I think mods REALLY need to make a sticky.

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#3 Inconsistancy
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'Cause you're comparing Apples(cities) to Islands(>.> islands). If you rendered the same zone in the new engine, tweaked the settings to your liking, it probably looks better, or equal... A lot of crysis 1 is actually quite ugly tbh.
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#4 DerpyMcDerp
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I think it's because PCs are getting weaker.

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#5 ImaPirate0202
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Those lazy developers.

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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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This guy is obviously looking for Someone to say............

Foliage.

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#7 Mrmccormo
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Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.
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#8 Inconsistancy
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This guy is obviously looking for Someone to say...... (>.>(......)>.>)........

Foliage.

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(>x.X)Q-(^.-Q).. were you trying to do kirbies? ifso, they came out funky (>^.^)(>O.O)>

Or.. what else could they be?

Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Mrmccormo

Wtf, racist. I think that's just an excuse from having to play games on 5+ years outdated hardware :D

Wow ain't exactly pretty (not that I play it anymore), but It was what I played for the majority of years since this gen of consoles... And Mass Effect really lacks any options to make it prettier, just higher resolution...

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Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Mrmccormo

Totally. I've spent 300+ hours on TF2 just to take pictures.

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#10 gmaster456
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Because it doesn't have da foliage.
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#11 gmaster456
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Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Mrmccormo
lol wut?
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

This guy is obviously looking for Someone to say...... (>.>(......)>.>)........

Foliage.

Inconsistancy

(>x.X)Q-(^.-Q).. were you trying to do kirbies? ifso, they came out funky (>^.^)(>O.O)>

Or.. what else could they be?

Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Mrmccormo

Wtf, racist. I think that's just an excuse from having to play games on 5+ years outdated hardware :D

Yeah....I tried to make them look like I was looking to the Left and then to the Right.

it failed.

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I think it's because PCs are getting weaker.

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I don't care how game's look...As long as it plays good I am a happy gamer...

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Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Mrmccormo

Of course that's all we do!

In fact I took these screenshots just a few days ago.

And I'm already playing The Witcher now! Soon I'll have enough screenshots of The Witcher to be satisfied before I move onto the next game in my library.

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#16 tomarlyn
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I think it's because PCs are getting weaker.

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Best post I've read today :P
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#17 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]Based on how much PC gamers focus on graphics and resolution, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually play games but rather just screencap games at the highest settings possible, brag about it on a forum, and then move on to the next game.Raymundo_Manuel

Of course that's all we do!

In fact I took these screenshots just a few days ago.

And I'm already playing The Witcher now! Soon I'll have enough screenshots of The Witcher to be satisfied before I move onto the next game in my library.

With all this Crysis 2 whining I thought bad looking PC games only existed if they were on consoles too, obviously not.

Seriously I'd like to know what consoles or console gamers did to ''hold back'' this particular PC game because obviously the PC can do better. Lazy dev's? Low budget? Probably, but when the game is also appearing on consoles its always the consoles fault :roll:

This is a general rant to all elitist hermits on teh internetz not specially you Raymundo :)

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#18 campzor
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i lol'd when i came to system wars today and saw all these crysis 2 threads lol.. i think its cause its hard to make buildings look photorealistic, whereas with the jungle its easier
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#19 Funconsole
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How the hell have the mods not seen you yet? This is like the 3rd post today by you just whining about this. If it matters to you soo much, just play Crysis 1 over and over until you're satisfied or better yet *removed due to possible suspension*
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#20 GTSaiyanjin2
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because I've yet to even play Crysis 2 :?

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#21 fusionhunter
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[spoiler] no [/spoiler]

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#22 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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It doesn't. The indoor and urban environments of Crysis 1 were bad looking, infact, the weakest part. Crysis 2 wins in that. Crysis 2 also has the same looking, if not better foliage, so no.
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#23 hypoty
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It doesn't. The indoor and urban environments of Crysis 1 were bad looking, infact, the weakest part. Crysis 2 wins in that. Crysis 2 also has the same looking, if not better foliage, so no.ocstew

I always thought the indoor environments of Crysis/Warhead were some of the best looking in the game, they weren't the most entertaining to play through but they looked awesome.

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#24 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ocstew"]It doesn't. The indoor and urban environments of Crysis 1 were bad looking, infact, the weakest part. Crysis 2 wins in that. Crysis 2 also has the same looking, if not better foliage, so no.hypoty

I always thought the indoor environments of Crysis/Warhead were some of the best looking in the game, they weren't the most entertaining to play through but they looked awesome.

Bad looking and the weakest considering how great everything else looked, but still great. Crysis 2 undoubtedly looks better and has more detail indoors.
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It doesn't. The indoor and urban environments of Crysis 1 were bad looking, infact, the weakest part. Crysis 2 wins in that. Crysis 2 also has the same looking, if not better foliage, so no.ocstew
The low rez foliage in C2 cant even touch the one in C1.
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#26 call_of_duty_10
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A comparison between foliage of crysis 2 and 1.

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#27 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Oh come on, you know that the first pic is modded Crysis. If you gave time for Crysis 2 to be modded, it would look way better.
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#28 call_of_duty_10
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Oh come on, you know that the first pic is modded Crysis. If you gave time for Crysis 2 to be modded, it would look way better.ocstew
I dont think it has texture mods.
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#29 ampiva
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But it doesn't.
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[QUOTE="ocstew"]Oh come on, you know that the first pic is modded Crysis. If you gave time for Crysis 2 to be modded, it would look way better.call_of_duty_10
I dont think it has texture mods.

Oh I played the demo on gamer and it looks nothing like that 360 pic you posted there. Make a point but don't be misleading about it, the textures are great on the PC version, obviously on par with the Crysis 1 textures. Comparing modded Crysis 1 on max to the 360 version... Not cool
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="ocstew"]Oh come on, you know that the first pic is modded Crysis. If you gave time for Crysis 2 to be modded, it would look way better.ocstew
I dont think it has texture mods.

Oh I played the demo on gamer and it looks nothing like that 360 pic you posted there. Make a point but don't be misleading about it, the textures are great on the PC version, obviously on par with the Crysis 1 textures. Comparing modded Crysis 1 on max to the 360 version... Not cool

Fixed that. Look at the bushes. In crysis 1,each leaf is separate.In Crysis 2,they are all muddled together and are low res. The trees have less leaves too.
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I dont think it has texture mods.

Oh I played the demo on gamer and it looks nothing like that 360 pic you posted there. Make a point but don't be misleading about it, the textures are great on the PC version, obviously on par with the Crysis 1 textures. Comparing modded Crysis 1 on max to the 360 version... Not cool

Fixed that. Look at the bushes. In crysis 1,each leaf is separate.In Crysis 2,they are all muddled together and are low res. The trees have less leaves too.

You're comparing hedges to bushes. The bushes look great and so do the hedges. And the trees are different too. They both have very good textures and depth.
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Because Crysis 1 has been modded beyond recognition? This is vanilla Crysis 1:

1080p 8xAA:

Crysis 2 DX9 settings from an glitchy leaked beta with locked graphic settings and vanilla state:

Crysis 2 has MUCH better arts.tyle, enviroments and character models (especially the animations) imo:

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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="ocstew"] Oh I played the demo on gamer and it looks nothing like that 360 pic you posted there. Make a point but don't be misleading about it, the textures are great on the PC version, obviously on par with the Crysis 1 textures. Comparing modded Crysis 1 on max to the 360 version... Not coolocstew
Fixed that. Look at the bushes. In crysis 1,each leaf is separate.In Crysis 2,they are all muddled together and are low res. The trees have less leaves too.

You're comparing hedges to bushes. The bushes look great and so do the hedges. And the trees are different too. They both have very good textures and depth.

The hedges are low res:?

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#35 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Fixed that. Look at the bushes. In crysis 1,each leaf is separate.In Crysis 2,they are all muddled together and are low res. The trees have less leaves too.call_of_duty_10

You're comparing hedges to bushes. The bushes look great and so do the hedges. And the trees are different too. They both have very good textures and depth.

The hedges are low res:?

Not really, they're just dark. And plus, the beta is missing higher setting assets, it's medium not hardcore settings.
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Because Crysis 1 has been modded beyond recognition? This is vanilla Crysis 1:

1080p 8xAA:

Crysis 2 DX9 settings from an glitchy leaked beta with locked graphic settings and vanilla state:

Crysis 2 has MUCH better arts.tyle, enviroments and character models (especially the animations) imo:

DreamCryotank

yeah teh animations are great. I shot a dude in the knee and he fell to the ground clutching at it. Very cool to see in realtime.

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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Because Crysis 1 has been modded beyond recognition? This is vanilla Crysis 1:

1080p 8xAA:

Crysis 2 DX9 settings from an glitchy leaked beta with locked graphic settings and vanilla state:

Crysis 2 has MUCH better arts.tyle, enviroments and character models (especially the animations) imo:

i5750at4Ghz

yeah teh animations are great. I shot a dude in the knee and he fell to the ground clutching at it. Very cool to see in realtime.

Definitely, Crysis had this awkward and rigid ragdoll with no death animations whatsoever.
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="ocstew"] You're comparing hedges to bushes. The bushes look great and so do the hedges. And the trees are different too. They both have very good textures and depth.ocstew

The hedges are low res:?

Not really, they're just dark. And plus, the beta is missing higher setting assets, it's medium not hardcore settings.

Does the demo have the good assets?
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#39 call_of_duty_10
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Well,here's a screenshot from the demo.You can compare it to crysis 1 and clearly see that it has worse foliage.

I have to go now.

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#40 DerpyMcDerp
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Crysis' graphics aren't as great as most try to make them out to be, but for the time they were amazing.

However, Crysis 2's graphics are a diamond a dozen, console games(Killzone 3) seriously look about the same or even better than the PC version.

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#41 jethrovegas
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Oh, come off it, guys. Wait for the full ****ing game, and then make your judgements.
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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]

Because Crysis 1 has been modded beyond recognition? This is vanilla Crysis 1:

1080p 8xAA:

Crysis 2 DX9 settings from an glitchy leaked beta with locked graphic settings and vanilla state:

Crysis 2 has MUCH better arts.tyle, enviroments and character models (especially the animations) imo:

i5750at4Ghz

yeah teh animations are great. I shot a dude in the knee and he fell to the ground clutching at it. Very cool to see in realtime.

Yeah, but apparently, the way they flop around like a fish made out of cardboard in Crysis 1 is far more impressive. :P You mean something like this?

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Crysis' graphics aren't as great as most try to make them out to be, but for the time they were amazing.

However, Crysis 2's graphics are a diamond a dozen, console games(Killzone 3) seriously look about the same or even better than the PC version.

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#44 kickass1337
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hardcore is actually high setting......not very high.........so just wait a bit longer.......
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#45 mitu123
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I come to this thread and see another modded Crysis 1 pic, the game looks nothing like that, I wonder who plays Crysis here.

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#46 dakan45
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Because its an x360 port. Or the demo and the beta are. AkA everything we have seen so far.
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#47 Mr_Ditters
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Its because Crysis was made for tech from 2007 and Crysis 2 was made for tech from 2006.

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#48 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Crysis' graphics aren't as great as most try to make them out to be, but for the time they were amazing.

However, Crysis 2's graphics are a diamond a dozen, console games(Killzone 3) seriously look about the same or even better than the PC version.

EddieTheHead84
The trolling is strong in this one.

Indeed, he probably thinks COD MW3 will beat Crysis 2 in graphics.
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[QUOTE="EddieTheHead84"][QUOTE="DerpyMcDerp"]

Crysis' graphics aren't as great as most try to make them out to be, but for the time they were amazing.

However, Crysis 2's graphics are a diamond a dozen, console games(Killzone 3) seriously look about the same or even better than the PC version.

ocstew
The trolling is strong in this one.

Indeed, he probably thinks COD MW3 will beat Crysis 2 in graphics.

I think he is just a troll. Knowing System Wars though he could be genuine.
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#50 Filthybastrd
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Foliage from the Crysis 1 demo:

Settings used (the autoexec.cfg, yes you can use one in the demo): [spoiler]

con_restricted = 0
r_displayinfo = 1

r_width = 1920
r_height = 1080

e_screenshot_width = 3840
e_screenshot_height = 2160
e_screenshot_quality = 100
e_screenshot_file_format = tga

; Set SLI/CrossFire to enabled (2 = autodetect)
r_MultiGPU = 2

; Sets physics on CPU Core X
sys_physics_CPU = 2


gpu_particle_physics = 1
e_ambient_occlusion = 1



; TEXTURES
r_DynTexAtlasCloudsMaxSize = 32
r_DynTexAtlasSpritesMaxSize = 32
r_DynTexMaxSize = 100
r_EnvCMResolution = 2
r_EnvTexResolution = 3
r_ImposterRatio = 1
r_TexAtlasSize = 2048
r_TexSkyResolution = 0
r_VegetationSpritesTexRes = 64

; OBJECTS
ca_AttachmentCullingRation = 200
ca_DrawFaceAttachments = 1
ca_useDecals = 1
e_cbuffer_resolution = 256
e_decals_allow_game_decals = 1
e_decals_life_time_scale = 3
e_detail_materials_view_dist_xy = 8192
e_detail_materials_view_dist_z = 768
e_dissolve = 1
e_lod_min = 0
e_lod_ratio = 8
e_lods = 1
e_max_view_dst_spec_lerp = 1
e_obj_quality = 4
e_proc_vegetation = 1
e_terrain_occlusion_culling = 1
e_terrain_occlusion_culling_max_dist = 200
e_terrain_occlusion_culling_precision = 0.1
e_terrain_occlusion_culling_precision_dist_ratio = 3
e_terrain_occlusion_culling_step_size = 4
e_vegetation_bending = 2
e_vegetation_min_size = 0
e_vegetation_sprites_distance_custom_ratio_min = 1
e_vegetation_sprites_distance_ratio = 1.5
e_view_dist_ratio = 255
e_view_dist_ratio_detail = 255
e_view_dist_ratio_vegetation = 255
es_DebrisLifetimeScale = 1
i_rejecteffects = 1
sys_flash_curve_tess_error = 2



; SHADERS

r_EyeAdaptationBase = 0.5

r_SSAO = 1
r_ssao_amount = 0.4
r_SSAO_darkening = 1.15
r_SSAO_quality = 2
r_SSAO_radius = 2
r_SSAO_blur = 4
r_SSAO_blurriness = 1
r_HDRlevel = 0.75

e_max_entity_lights = 20
e_particles_lights = 1
e_ram_maps = 1

e_terrain_ao = 1
r_TerrainAO = 7
e_terrain_normal_map = 1
e_vegetation_use_terrain_color = 1
r_DetailDistance = 20
r_DetailNumLayers = 2
r_DetailTextures = 1
r_EnvTexUpdateInterval = 0.03
r_FillLights = 14
r_HDRRendering = 2
r_HairSortingQuality = 1
r_TexturesFilteringQuality = 0
r_UsePom = 1
r_refraction = 1
sys_flash_edgeaa = 1
sys_spec_Quality = 4



; WATER
e_water_ocean_fft = 1
e_water_tesselation_amount = 10
e_water_tesselation_swath_width = 10
q_ShaderWater = 4
r_WaterGodRays = 1
r_WaterCaustics = 1
r_WaterReflections = 1
r_WaterReflectionsMinVisiblePixelsUpdate = 0.01
r_WaterReflectionsQuality = 3
r_WaterRefractions = 1
r_WaterUpdateDistance = 0.2
r_WaterUpdateFactor = 0.0001
e_water_volumes = 1
;e_water_waves = 1


r_UsePom = 1
r_TexturesStreaming = 0


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Crysis 2 demo:

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Guess I should have fiddled with the motion blur in the Crysis 1 demo config.

Battle of the demos!!