Crysis bad level design?

So I finally beat Far Cry last night and I got to admit the level design was very bad. I am glad I got it free because I wouldn't pay $5 for that game. The enemies were bad too. I can't believe hermits say Halo and Halo 2 has bad level design after playing Far Cry.So unless Crytek has learned from their mistakes from Far Cry I can say Crysis isn't going to be any better in level design. Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis. 

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

Hewkii

There is, and he knows there is ... its flamebait.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

Meu2k7

There is, and he knows there is ... its flamebait.

Don't they kind of hover?

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

agentfred

There is, and he knows there is ... its flamebait.

Don't they kind of hover?

The small ones have a frontal lundge attach, where they propel themselves straight up then propel straight at you, stunning you if it hits.

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

Meu2k7

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

PS3_3DO

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.

The underground levels were bad, but all the open jungle ones were great ... which nobody has disagreed with out of the far cry fans.

And jsut by looking at Crysis you can tell the shear difference between the 2 games level designs and AI.

So I finally beat Far Cry last night and I got to admit the level design was very bad. I am glad I got it free because I wouldn't pay $5 for that game. The enemies were bad too. I can't believe hermits say Halo and Halo 2 has bad level design after playing Far Cry.So unless Crytek has learned from their mistakes from Far Cry I can say Crysis isn't going to be any better in level design. Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

PS3_3DO

levels are a console phaenomenon...because of their pathetic ram crysis will have free roaming huge world not some pathetic levels...

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.PS3_3DO

The PC original is far better than any console version. And the PC game is superb in its design and scope.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

Meu2k7

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.

The underground levels were bad, but all the open jungle ones were great ... which nobody has disagreed with out of the far cry fans.

And jsut by looking at Crysis you can tell the shear difference between the 2 games level designs and AI.

Ok good to hear that Crytek is getting better on level design. ;)

Library. /threadinertk

My favorite Halo lvl eva!

And regarding Crysis, unless the island is unfinished, I don't see how it could be "poor" level design.

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So I finally beat Far Cry last night and I got to admit the level design was very bad. I am glad I got it free because I wouldn't pay $5 for that game. The enemies were bad too. I can't believe hermits say Halo and Halo 2 has bad level design after playing Far Cry.So unless Crytek has learned from their mistakes from Far Cry I can say Crysis isn't going to be any better in level design. Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

True_Gamer_

levels are a console phaenomenon...because of their pathetic ram crysis will have free roaming huge world not some pathetic levels...

I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.agentfred

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.cobrax75

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

Which allows for greater gameplay variety and freedom. Leaving the choice of how to play the game up to the player rather than funneling them down a certain path is the best form of level design if you ask me. Of all the things to complain about Crysis, why was level design picked? That's one of it's strongest points aside from graphics in my opinion.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.cobrax75

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.PS3_3DO

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.PS3_3DO

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

Excuse me, but I don't think I understand. You claim 2 gigs are needed to run it, but half a gig can do half of it? Perhaps it isn't linear progression, but I still don't think that math works out.

I think Far Cry and Halo 1 share some similarities. I thought both were excellent whilst they were outdoors (although Far Cry offered more freedom) and it was just Marines vs. the Covenant/ Jack vs. the Mercenaries. As soon as the third wheels were introduced (the flood and the Crygens) and the levels moved towards being based indoors both games became repetitive, mediocre, run of the mill FPS.

From what I understand Crysis will be based outdoors the majority of the time (which was Far Cry's strength imo) and the indoor alien portions of the game are unlike other corridor FPS.

So I finally beat Far Cry last night and I got to admit the level design was very bad. I am glad I got it free because I wouldn't pay $5 for that game. The enemies were bad too. I can't believe hermits say Halo and Halo 2 has bad level design after playing Far Cry.So unless Crytek has learned from their mistakes from Far Cry I can say Crysis isn't going to be any better in level design. Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

PS3_3DO

I can't speak for Halo 2, but the original Halo's level design was lame, just plain lazily done.

One of the reasons I think its merely a solid game, not a great game.

So I finally beat Far Cry last night and I got to admit the level design was very bad. I am glad I got it free because I wouldn't pay $5 for that game. The enemies were bad too. I can't believe hermits say Halo and Halo 2 has bad level design after playing Far Cry.So unless Crytek has learned from their mistakes from Far Cry I can say Crysis isn't going to be any better in level design. Also I hope there isn't any jumping Aliens in Crysis.

PS3_3DO

Please stop creating threads, it's quite obvious you have no clue what you're talking about we don't need more proof.

Far Cry the original on PC or the terrible console ports?SpruceCaboose

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/farcry/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;reviews

" but what everyone didn't expect was that Ubisoft Montreal would create a game that's even better than Far Cry (PC), and considering how good Far Cry was, that's saying quite a lot."

/owned

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[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.agentfred

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

Excuse me, but I don't think I understand. You claim 2 gigs are needed to run it, but half a gig can do half of it? Perhaps it isn't linear progression, but I still don't think that math works out.

Consoles can free up more ram because they don't use a big OS taking up resources. Consoles use less Ram then the PC does. So 512mb of Ram in the 360 is like 1.5gigs of Ram in a PC.

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.PS3_3DO

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

Excuse me, but I don't think I understand. You claim 2 gigs are needed to run it, but half a gig can do half of it? Perhaps it isn't linear progression, but I still don't think that math works out.

Consoles can free up more ram because they don't use a big OS taking up resources. Consoles use less Ram then the PC does. So 512mb of Ram in the 360 is like 1.5gigs of Ram in a PC.

they do use less ram, but the pc ram is much faster, so i cant say that 512mb=1.5 on a pc its probly not true id risk sayng it that 512mb=700-800mb(since my xp consumes about 300mb), also depending on the os your on it consumes less RAM.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

PS3_3DO

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.

Wow.:lol:

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="cobrax75"]

[QUOTE="agentfred"]I thought that was the revolutionary part of the game though. The scale and thus the freedom of movement was unlike anything we had seen before. I thought the level design was great.PS3_3DO

that recent 1up preview said that the crysis level they played was by far the biggest and most open level they had ever seen in a video game.

So that means you are going to need at least 2gigs of Ram to play Crysis maybe even more. :o I bet 360 could do about at least half of that level.

Excuse me, but I don't think I understand. You claim 2 gigs are needed to run it, but half a gig can do half of it? Perhaps it isn't linear progression, but I still don't think that math works out.

Consoles can free up more ram because they don't use a big OS taking up resources. Consoles use less Ram then the PC does. So 512mb of Ram in the 360 is like 1.5gigs of Ram in a PC.

Oh, ok, thats where you got that. Anyway, Vista is the most demanding OS out there, and it uses at most half a gig of ram. It usually isn't even that signifigant, and as someone said previously, you only really need 1 gig to run it fine.

Oh, ok, thats where you got that. Anyway, Vista is the most demanding OS out there, and it uses at most half a gig of ram. It usually isn't that signifigant, and as someone said previously, you only really need 1 gig to run it fine.

agentfred

It doesn't affect your peformance in games. Idle my ram is at 51% but I believe that is due to superfetch. 1gig could probably run the game ok but anybody should have 2gigs by now, you can get RAM super cheap these days.

I'm sure 512mb 360 does not= 1.5gig ram on the PC. If that was true why would Cavet Yerli talk about console ram holding Crysis back from being ported? I think he knows more about the capabilities of consoles more than you.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

No , I believe you are refering to Halo for bad level design, its quite funny you post this, after the latest video hands on saying the levels of Crysis are absolutely amazing and fun.

Another PS3_3DO flamebait thread, what a suprize :roll:

PS3_3DO

I am telling the truth Far Cry isn't that good of a game.I can say this fromplaying both games Far Cry Instincts on the Xbox is the better game.I hope the level design and enemies are better in Crysis.

I can't believe console owners want Crysis to fail. Even though I don't have a PC that can run the game, I hope it is the best game ever released. Hurray for the gaming industry moving forward.

I know that the best a developer can do for a console will never match what a developer can do for a PC (if they the PC developer is working on the latest and greatest hardware and doesn't have to worry about backwards compatibility).