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....and most importantly, ran at a silky smooth 60 fps on the 360. I don't think the game (Crysis) would have to be as dumbed down a port (Far Cry Instincts) as others think either. Crysis might have a few extra bells and whistles in the effects department (lightning, volumetric clouds, etc,etc) but if you compare screenshots of both Call of Duty 4 and Crysis, they both have excellent character models and environments. Cevat Yerli of Crytek himself said that they are optimizing the game to run on 2 year old Pc's (6800 gt?), so why in the world could it not run on Ps3, 360? I'm certain they could at least achieve a rock solid 30 fps with not much visual downgrade. What do you think?ChiefFreeman
It doesn't matter if it can. It won't.
Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.dracolich666
are we looking at the same screenshots? It looks spectacular. But the other poster mentioned the static world in Call of Duty 4. Yes, you are correct. But remember the got Half Life 2 physics to run on the original Xbox.
Call of Duty 4 looks damn sweet, but it doesn't look anywhere close to Crysis, the proof is in the fact the developers said that they were aiming for 60fps and anything which drags it down gets cut.
Crysis on the other hand has not be designed like that, so it will come down to the player on how they want to balance graphics vs FPS.
Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.dracolich666
I think its the other way around... Out of the two..The 360 is most like the PC in terms of architecture. The cell would no doubt handle the physics like no other but all the geometry..I dont think so.
CoD4 is a different game. It's a linear FPS with closed environments. You shouldn't compare them like this.Core0
No crysis uses out of order execution to do most of the inengene calculations related to physics and AI. If that to be opttimized for the 360 or ps3(nah ps3 would handl it even if it tried) then all the calculations will have to be simlified dumbing down the whole expiriense.
And gfx, i think max settings will require u to have a DX10 gfx card?
....and most importantly, ran at a silky smooth 60 fps on the 360. I don't think the game (Crysis) would have to be as dumbed down a port (Far Cry Instincts) as others think either. Crysis might have a few extra bells and whistles in the effects department (lightning, volumetric clouds, etc,etc) but if you compare screenshots of both Call of Duty 4 and Crysis, they both have excellent character models and environments. Cevat Yerli of Crytek himself said that they are optimizing the game to run on 2 year old Pc's (6800 gt?), so why in the world could it not run on Ps3, 360? I'm certain they could at least achieve a rock solid 30 fps with not much visual downgrade. What do you think?ChiefFreeman
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
Go back into your room and think about what you've done.
[QUOTE="dracolich666"]Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.Pro_wrestler
I think its the other way around... Out of the two..The 360 is most like the PC in terms of architecture. The cell would no doubt handle the physics like no other but all the geometry..I dont think so.
Yeah! The 360 is a lot like PCs, what with it's eDRAM die framebuffer, unified memory, and unified shaders! Exactly!
Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.dracolich666
hmm...why are you favoring the PS3 in this comparison ?? most of the time the same game has been better on 360..so why would Crysis run better on PS3 than on 360 ?? I think it would run better on 360
call of duty 4 "looks almost as good as crysis"
OKAY ... let's assume crysis doesn't look as good as COD4
let's assume it's true for 1min
here is why crysis "might" not be nicer than COD4
- the physic engine in insane
- the environnement is highly destructible
- the A.I. is very very developped
- the maps or ENORMOUS, the range of sight is totaly insane
OKAY ... so if COD4 does have nicer graphics, it is because they surely sacrificed some Crysis' good points for putting some ressources on the graphics
* do you want to have the nicer graphics ever seen in a video game *
make your own super developped engine, make a map big like a small BOX, add 1 tree or w/e
(no wind, no physics, no A.I.) than all the power of your computer could be used to ONLY make that box look wonderful
[QUOTE="dracolich666"]Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.ChiefFreeman
are we looking at the same screenshots? It looks spectacular. But the other poster mentioned the static world in Call of Duty 4. Yes, you are correct. But remember the got Half Life 2 physics to run on the original Xbox.
yeah and it looked terrible it looked the pc version with everything on lowLol not only does crysis look far better than call of duty 4 it also has huge destructible environments, with 2km draw distances, dynamic day and night cycle, amazing real-time lighting/shadows,amazing physics, amzing A.I.
call of duty 4 is an on the rails, closed, static environment and it still doesnt look as good, :lol:
[QUOTE="dracolich666"]Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.ChiefFreeman
are we looking at the same screenshots? It looks spectacular. But the other poster mentioned the static world in Call of Duty 4. Yes, you are correct. But remember the got Half Life 2 physics to run on the original Xbox.
half life didn't run to well on the xbox, and that was the source engine, anything can run that.
im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.Big_T-Mac
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.michael098
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.Please...
I think the hexagonal wheels more than speaks for themselves.
Call of Duty 4 looks no where near Crysis's quality. Crysis is truly "next-gen."
Here's an old pic of Crysis just to help my point...
If it did run on the 360 or PS3, it wouldn't look or run anything like the PC verison.foxhound_fox
yup, different generation in my opinion.
Good comparison, you can see that even though COD4s character models arnt bad, they are in no way comparable to crysis, just look at the first screen of crysis, the edges are so smooth because of the high poly count. Nothing against COD4 though, its still a great looking CONSOLE game...
[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.Big_T-Mac
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.lol, you think crysis's scale and detail of textures could fit on the consoles limited amount of ram? one 8800gts 640mb has more ram just on the card itself than either the 360 and ps3. Not forgetting the 2-4gb of systemram most pc's have in them nowadays.
Yes it could be done on 360,ps3, but at what cost? I think it would be seriously hampered in terms of scale and visuals.
[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.Big_T-Mac
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.Did you just pull that 90% out of your *** or is there truth to it? because i think its bs, when you think of all that would have to be downgraded like textures, most of the advanced physics, lower poly count, less effects, draw distance and a.i it all adds up to alot lower than 90%. And yes, crysis is a first gen DX10 game, i think you were missing my point though, what i was saying is crysis has accomplished alot more than any other game out there, the cryengine 2 (along with tech 5) is the most advanced engine out there so i don't think saying crysis can be done on consoles because its a first gen DX10 game means anything.
[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.michael098
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.Did you just pull that 90% out of your *** or is there truth to it? because i think its bs, when you think of all that would have to be downgraded like textures, most of the advanced physics, lower poly count, less effects, draw distance and a.i it all adds up to alot lower than 90%. And yes, crysis is a first gen DX10 game, i think you were missing my point though, what i was saying is crysis has accomplished alot more than any other game out there, the cryengine 2 (along with tech 5) is the most advanced engine out there so i don't think saying crysis can be done on consoles because its a first gen DX10 game means anything.
no, i gave u 90% to be generous to the hermits. i figured a game is close enough to the original at 80% for it not to be a huge deterrent that it hampers the game, but i was nice so i spotted ur argument against mine 10%. if u'd like to argue that 360 couldnt run crysis at 80% capacity then by all means, we'll go on from there if ur so inclined.[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.Big_T-Mac
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.Did you just pull that 90% out of your *** or is there truth to it? because i think its bs, when you think of all that would have to be downgraded like textures, most of the advanced physics, lower poly count, less effects, draw distance and a.i it all adds up to alot lower than 90%. And yes, crysis is a first gen DX10 game, i think you were missing my point though, what i was saying is crysis has accomplished alot more than any other game out there, the cryengine 2 (along with tech 5) is the most advanced engine out there so i don't think saying crysis can be done on consoles because its a first gen DX10 game means anything.
no, i gave u 90% to be generous to the hermits. i figured a game is close enough to the original at 80% for it not to be a huge deterrent that it hampers the game, but i was nice so i spotted ur argument against mine 10%. if u'd like to argue that 360 couldnt run crysis at 80% capacity then by all means, we'll go on from there if ur so inclined.:lol:
[QUOTE="dracolich666"]Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.ChiefFreeman
are we looking at the same screenshots? It looks spectacular. But the other poster mentioned the static world in Call of Duty 4. Yes, you are correct. But remember the got Half Life 2 physics to run on the original Xbox.
so what if they got it to work? It was crap compared to PC version, exactly what it would be like if the put crysis on consoles. No doubt it would pull off most of the physics, but i doubt the graphics would be as good. It would be toned down.
[QUOTE="ChiefFreeman"][QUOTE="dracolich666"]Crysis would struggle on the PS3 let alone the 360. COD4 looks NOTHING like crysis. Its not even that great looking of a game.Sully28
are we looking at the same screenshots? It looks spectacular. But the other poster mentioned the static world in Call of Duty 4. Yes, you are correct. But remember the got Half Life 2 physics to run on the original Xbox.
so what if they got it to work? It was crap compared to PC version, exactly what it would be like if the put crysis on consoles. No doubt it would pull off most of the physics, but i doubt the graphics would be as good. It would be toned down.
exactly, half life 2 equalled the pc version at lowest settings, at sdtv resolution with honestly, quite unplayable framerates in my opinion.
Could well be the same with crysis.
Look at Far cry instincts compared to the pc version of far cry, HUGE difference again.
[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]im not going to get into the cod4 and crysis gfx argument, but i will say that for someone to say a first generation direct x10 game could not be replicated to 90% quality of the original on a 360 or even a ps3 is a true expression of ignorance. i will also add that a developer who can not do just that is also a sad developer who isn't of the same quality and pedigree as theirnearest contemporaries and might want to go into the movie effects business instead.Big_T-Mac
It not ignorance, its just the truth, of course the devs could port it to the consoles looking like crap compared to the pc version but the argument is that it could look almost as good, and don't think of crysis as just a first gen DX10 game, its alot more than just that, this game has got closer than anything else to looking like real life, nothing can compare to it.
crysis at 90% overall quality can be done by a good developer with knowledge and adequate skills. and yes, considering dx10 cards didnt come out til october 06 and directx10 didnt come out til vista, it is the first year of dx10 and therefore a first generation dx10 game. whether how real it looks or not is simply not the point.Did you just pull that 90% out of your *** or is there truth to it? because i think its bs, when you think of all that would have to be downgraded like textures, most of the advanced physics, lower poly count, less effects, draw distance and a.i it all adds up to alot lower than 90%. And yes, crysis is a first gen DX10 game, i think you were missing my point though, what i was saying is crysis has accomplished alot more than any other game out there, the cryengine 2 (along with tech 5) is the most advanced engine out there so i don't think saying crysis can be done on consoles because its a first gen DX10 game means anything.
no, i gave u 90% to be generous to the hermits. i figured a game is close enough to the original at 80% for it not to be a huge deterrent that it hampers the game, but i was nice so i spotted ur argument against mine 10%. if u'd like to argue that 360 couldnt run crysis at 80% capacity then by all means, we'll go on from there if ur so inclined.I'm not going to argue, I'm not a developer, i don't know what % crysis will have to be downgraded to run on consoles and by the sounds of it nether do you, but i know enough to realise that a 10% downgrade, even a 20% downgrade is still not enough for crysis to run on the ps3 or 360, basically every aspect of the game will need to be downgraded so im thinking maybe 65-70% at the most, but like you I'm just making this up.
....and most importantly, ran at a silky smooth 60 fps on the 360. I don't think the game (Crysis) would have to be as dumbed down a port (Far Cry Instincts) as others think either. Crysis might have a few extra bells and whistles in the effects department (lightning, volumetric clouds, etc,etc) but if you compare screenshots of both Call of Duty 4 and Crysis, they both have excellent character models and environments. Cevat Yerli of Crytek himself said that they are optimizing the game to run on 2 year old Pc's (6800 gt?), so why in the world could it not run on Ps3, 360? I'm certain they could at least achieve a rock solid 30 fps with not much visual downgrade. What do you think?ChiefFreemanYou are just plain wrong cod4 is not on crysis's level in graphics or physics and it's on rails.
oh God, not jt8b2z again. i'm officially done with this thread, mike98. call it a win or w/e u call it these days, but there is no such things a civilized argument with a parrot screaming in ur ear(and by 'ur' i mean mine specifically). if u wish to continue this argument feel free to pm me or lead me to a board free from jt8b2z, but i'm not putting up with certain ppl if i don't have to. i already went to middle school a long time ago.Big_T-Mac
Lol, what did i do.
Oh yeh, post facts that totally negate your point :|
oh God, not jt8b2z again. i'm officially done with this thread, mike98. call it a win or w/e u call it these days, but there is no such things a civilized argument with a parrot screaming in ur ear(and by 'ur' i mean mine specifically). if u wish to continue this argument feel free to pm me or lead me to a board free from jt8b2z, but i'm not putting up with certain ppl if i don't have to. i already went to middle school a long time ago.Big_T-Mac
You do realise hes right though?
[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]oh God, not jt8b2z again. i'm officially done with this thread, mike98. call it a win or w/e u call it these days, but there is no such things a civilized argument with a parrot screaming in ur ear(and by 'ur' i mean mine specifically). if u wish to continue this argument feel free to pm me or lead me to a board free from jt8b2z, but i'm not putting up with certain ppl if i don't have to. i already went to middle school a long time ago.michael098
You do realise hes right though?
i have come to realise that being right in this place actually seems to make people hate you more, but oh well.
[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]oh God, not jt8b2z again. i'm officially done with this thread, mike98. call it a win or w/e u call it these days, but there is no such things a civilized argument with a parrot screaming in ur ear(and by 'ur' i mean mine specifically). if u wish to continue this argument feel free to pm me or lead me to a board free from jt8b2z, but i'm not putting up with certain ppl if i don't have to. i already went to middle school a long time ago.jt8b2z
Lol, what did i do.
Oh yeh, post facts that totally negate your point :|
Well, in his defense, that could get really annoying.
[QUOTE="michael098"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]oh God, not jt8b2z again. i'm officially done with this thread, mike98. call it a win or w/e u call it these days, but there is no such things a civilized argument with a parrot screaming in ur ear(and by 'ur' i mean mine specifically). if u wish to continue this argument feel free to pm me or lead me to a board free from jt8b2z, but i'm not putting up with certain ppl if i don't have to. i already went to middle school a long time ago.jt8b2z
You do realise hes right though?
i have come to realise that being right in this place actually seems to make people hate you more, but oh well.
But wouldn't it be nice if Crysis could run on the 360 with only a 10% downgrade?
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