Crytek CEO says 95% of gamers are criminals.

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#1 MrBluRay003
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53357

More proof that gamers are nothing more than criminals-in-training.

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#2 JLF1
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In training for what?
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#3 -DrRobotnik-
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Why is it every time theres a piracy article, its in relation to the PC and not consoles?
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Why is it every time theres a piracy article, its in relation to the PC and not consoles?-DrRobotnik-

same reason we don't have an anti-Israel lobby.

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#5 PC360Wii
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Heh, I think theyre going insane abit now, we will have the Crytek brothers going around peoples houses in nano suits or flowery shirts shooting all gamers.
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#6 sargentbotk
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I never thought of pirating games before....especially newly released ones.
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#7 LOXO7
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Now im going to stop buying their games and next time ill rob them.

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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Why is it every time theres a piracy article, its in relation to the PC and not consoles?Hewkii

same reason we don't have an anti-Israel lobby.

Whos 'we'?

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#9 diped
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I'm a criminal.
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#10 Kez1984
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At least there not claiming we are part of Al Qaeda.
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#11 lettuceman44
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I'm glad I'm part of the 5%.

Pirates make me sick.....

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#12 flowdee79
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I'll pirate all of their future games as revenge.
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#13 lettuceman44
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I'll pirate all of their future games as revenge.flowdee79
I hope that is sarcasm.
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Heh, I think theyre going insane abit now, we will have the Crytek brothers going around peoples houses in nano suits or flowery shirts shooting all gamers.PC360Wii

Duck and cover :|!

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#15 Makari
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http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53357

More proof that gamers are nothing more than criminals-in-training.

MrBluRay003
This article is from 3 months ago.
Why is it every time theres a piracy article, its in relation to the PC and not consoles?-DrRobotnik-
and because the people actually making the games consider it more of a problem on the PC than on consoles, DS/PSP aside.
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#16 PBSnipes
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Only in the gaming industry would an executive flat-out say 75-95% of consumers are honest-to-god criminals. :roll:
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#17 mr_mozilla
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Sadly he's propably right in a way. But things aren't quite as black and white as that, many of those pirates are not real PC gamers and thus not even potential customers. Without the chance to pirate Crysis they would pirate some other game, go to consoles or be without. If he thinks that with an uncrackable DRM system Crysis would had sold 40 million instead of 2, he's sadly mistaken.

Atm they are trying to make those pirates buy their game, that is the wrong approach imo, they should be looking outside that group, try to get people who don't pirate but don't buy the game either to be their new customers.

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#18 organic_machine
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TC, you took his quote out of context. I for one bought Crysis and I have never illegally downloaded a PC game.
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#19 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]Why is it every time theres a piracy article, its in relation to the PC and not consoles?Hewkii

same reason we don't have an anti-Israel lobby.

lol wow. Thats probably the best analogy i have heard on the SW.

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#20 Koalakommander
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This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

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#21 MrBluRay003
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This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

Koalakommander

How does that change the fact that 95% of gamers are criminals?

It is a good thing that I would never lower myself by becoming a gamer.

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#22 Makari
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This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

Koalakommander
He knows that. The same guy also said that if there was no piracy whatsoever, he thinks the game would have sold maybe twice as well at best. 3 million. That sounds completely unreasonable to you?
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#23 AAllxxjjnn
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I've bought all my games, so i guess im that 5%.
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#24 johnnyblazed88
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if they think 95% of gamers know how to pirate video games their full of crap

but if their talking about breaking any law like smoking weed then ok its more beleivable

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#25 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

MrBluRay003

How does that change the fact that 95% of gamers are criminals?

It is a good thing that I would never lower myself by becoming a gamer.


I got bad news for you. The moment you become a member of this site you become a gamer.

Your one of us now.

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#26 Espada12
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so if 5% of gamers are not criminals and their game sold 1.5million copies (going with a number) then that means 28.5 million people pirated their game! OMGs!!!!!

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#27 Marka1700
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I wouldn't mind betting that number is grossly innacurat. Crysis is only 1 of 100's of PC game software producst currentl on the market. Just becuase his got hit hard dosnt mean evyerone else did (LOL LOL, my poduct did bad there fore the whole market is bad).

The main reason cyrsis would have been pirated was because the price of admission was so high. They should have though of this before they made it. Think, why is it the game that anyone can run that sell so well. Games like spore get the real advantage of the open platform by apealling to the biggest audience it possibly can. Not just those who spend $800 upgrading the PC every 3 years

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#28 Makari
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so if 5% of gamers are not criminals and their game sold 1.5million copies (going with a number) then that means 28.5 million people pirated their game! OMGs!!!!!

Espada12
hm. right after the launch of the 8800gt, nvidia announced that they had sold ~30 million 8-series desktop cards.
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#29 Jigsaw9798
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I think that's a huge exaggeration. At least I'm in the 5%(probably more like 90% lol):P
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#30 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

Makari

He knows that. The same guy also said that if there was no piracy whatsoever, he thinks the game would have sold maybe twice as well at best. 3 million. That sounds completely unreasonable to you?

Yes.

For example, the release of Crysis. The people who have been looking forward to this game and thought it looked awsome, and read all the great reviews will 90% of the time go out and purchase it.

As for people who aren't very interested, and may just want to try the game out without having to drop $50 on it, or maybe just want to see if their computer can handle the game -- they will pirate it.

If pirating was impossible to do, this demographic of people simply wouldn't purchase the game -- they don't care. Yes there are a few people out there who pirate games they want very badly, but not so much as it would increase the sales of a game by any significant amount.

So developers are complaining they are losing money because people steal, when really these pirates wouldn't buy your game in the first place. Find me a thief that upon hearing that his method of stealing no longer worked, would then go out and purchase the item instead. The people who steal Crysis don't respect Crysis, they don't want to drop $50 for a short single-player campaign and a terrible mutliplayer component that they are never going to play.

Crysis was a great game, and it had great sales (it was also pirated alot).
Starcraft was a great game, and it had some of the best sales in gaming history (and it was pirated to hell).

Do you see Blizzard crying? Do you see Blizzard jumping to consoles because pirates are ruining their profits? No. Because Blizzard knows that if it puts a high quality product on the market -- people will buy it.

So how do you fix pirating? Well if you somehow make pirating impossible, you would be delusional to think that those former pirates care enough about your game to buy it.

So this is how you fix it:

Make better games -- dont just make quality, make quantity. Give people content. An 8 hour single-player campaign may be awsome, but it's just that. I only buy games that last.

Computer Game Rental -- Give people the option of being able to pay $5-10 to play the game for a week, and you will see pirating decrease drastically. The majority of people would rather dish out some pocket change to play a game rather than start a 48 hour download, figure out how to crack the CD code and run the ISO (if the download actually worked) etc...

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#31 Chofee
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[QUOTE="flowdee79"]I'll pirate all of their future games as revenge.lettuceman44
I hope that is sarcasm.

It will be irony after he does pirate them :)
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#33 Brainkiller05
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Guess I'm part of the 95% :shock:
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#34 J-REAL
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I think they are criminals for making a game that runs better on Nivda cards and not ATI just because of greed. Making ppl with Ati cards go out and buying $$$ Nivda cards to play there game. So Y dont these guys stop complaining ppl are gonna to do what they do.
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#35 Makari
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wall of textKoalakommander
Argh. Okay, couple things in your example... Starcraft? That game's legs are due almost entirely to being tied to an online component where Blizzard controls access. Oh, and South Korea having accounted for fully half of the game's sales BY ITSELF. That is pretty much the definition of an 'exception.' You do see Blizzard being one of the first companies on the DRM/Copy protection bandwagon, however. They've been using SecuROM for longer than almost everybody out there. And now they're investing their own resources in developing their own in-house copy protection for SC2 and D3. Any guess why? Over 30 million people are willing to buy a standalone 8-series graphics card. According to Valve's hardware survey, the majority of those cards sold are 8800's that costed $250-400+ back then. This isn't even taking into account 9-series or 7-series, or ATi cards. You're telling me less than 10% of the people that specifically go and purchase an 8800 card would actually want to play Crysis? Ever? Remember, this is in a world with ZERO piracy in his hypothetical example, so the only way to play the game would be buying it.
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I won't lie I've emulated a few games that I didn't have in my possession at the time and played a couple bootleg games Soldier of Fortune II and Counter-Strike, it's one of the best games I've ever played and I did buy some of Valve and Ravensoft's games legit so I don't feel guilty.
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#37 Makari
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I won't lie I've emulated a few games that I didn't have in my possession at the time and played a couple bootleg games Soldier of Fortune II and Counter-Strike, it's one of the best games I've ever played and I did buy some of Valve and Ravensoft's games legit so I don't feel guilty.Gamertag-TFTW
Ravensoft already did what Crytek is talking about and bailed on 100% PC focus a long time ago, though. Like five years ago.
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#38 110million
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Screw you, Crytek, I bought your game, little influence to buy your new one with all this nonsense, and no, I won't pirate it, I just won't get it at all.
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#39 Jynxzor
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

MrBluRay003

How does that change the fact that 95% of gamers are criminals?

It is a good thing that I would never lower myself by becoming a gamer.

Did you know 95% of Humanity are criminals as well?

People comit crimes and don't get caught, I'll never lower myself by becoming human, I'll stay a omnipotent god.

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#40 TAKE_IT_BACK
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Eh, the CEOs probably just grumpy about piracy taking away cash he should have earned. It definitely not that bad
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#41 finalfantasy94
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This is getting very annoying.

People pirate games that they would never buy in the first place.

Koalakommander

Not true. THe person could really want the game,but doesint have the money to get it for a while or the person could think "hmm ill buy the uber computer then ill get the game for free which is saving me some $$$".