Crytek: on PS3 GPU - "Low End"

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/1014410/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html

See the above video, at the end of the video, the Crytek representative responds to the question of why it's harder to get good results out of the PS3.

He specifically states that the PS3's GPU is low end compared to the other family of GPU's that they support - which includes Xenos from the 360.

This is definitive proof of what I have been saying, and confirm what everyone saw in the previously posted IGN videos of the Crytek 3 engine running side by side with the 360.

He also states that they have tapped CELL in order to allow the PS3 to compete ont he same level as 360. However from the side by side video demonstration that was recently shown it's clear that the 360 version is running much smoother.

This makes it clear that Crytek wants to take Unreal Engine 3's market share by marketing the fact that the Crytek 3.0 engine maximizes the output from the PS3. Which also reconfirms what we already know about the PS3 and how poorly it runs Unreal Engine 3.0 games compared to 360.

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3. He also clearly states that for most developers, (or specifically for developers without the Crytek 3.0 Engine at their disposal) that the PS3 is the lowest common denominator. This is marketing speak to sell the engine, as it still clearly runs better on 360.

This goes back to what has been the problem for the PS3 from the begining. No matter how much Sony wants to try to make you believe that it's the most powerful console, most everyone is too smart to believe that. Sony has been feeding use horse crap from the start and charging a premium for hardware that actually plays second fiddle to the 360.

The consoles are the same, it is all up to the dev as to what they want to do about it.

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

ElNinjaLoco

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

Yandere

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

Yandere

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

dakan45

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

ZOMG!!!!!:lol: I knew someone would say that.

The consoles are the same, it is all up to the dev as to what they want to do about it.

Threebabycows

I dont think the 360 is "superior" compared to the PS3.

The fact is that both run the same. Some developers cant handle or dont know how to work the PS3. So for you to say it is superior is a gross exaggeration

So now KZ2 also looks better than that real time Crytek 3 Demo?

Come on folks, come back down from the clouds...

Power is nothing without developers motivation and ability to use it. So far ps3 devs have done more with less GPU power than the few 360 exclusive devs. However it's clear from multiplatforms that 360 does have the edge in graphics.

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

BoloTheGreat

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

The consoles are the same, it is all up to the dev as to what they want to do about it.

druggyjoe3000

Really either way the power diff is atmost 5fps when coded well(pulled out of ass)

So now KZ2 also looks better than that real time Crytek 3 Demo?

Come on folks, come back down from the clouds...

ElNinjaLoco

On the side by Side comparision I did not see how the 360 version is any better than PS3. and The Cell is meant to work with the GPU for graphics, that as its purpose.

And What video did you watch to make such a fanboyish claim? I just watched it and I am confused where the TC is making these accusation from

I guess cows will now proceed to add Crytek to their list of lazy devs.

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

Chutebox

yes ps3 has inferior GPU but Cell makes up for it. PS3 IS more powerful then 360

[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

Chutebox

Again, that's a really silly thing to say unless you are prepared to argue that there's any PS3 exclusive that looks better than the game in that video.

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3.

BoloTheGreat

Sorry, but I don't buy my consoles/games for graphics.

I wouldn't say I am, I'm just stating that it doesn't matter.. I've never boasted that the Ps3 has superior hardware because quite frankley I mostly play games with 2D sprites and don't spend my time playing most 3D games.

yes ps3 has inferior GPU but Cell makes up for it. PS3 IS more powerful then 360

sikanderahmed

I have my doubts.

Crytek should look at Uncharted 2.

"The ps3 is among the lowest nominated among most people". I assume you refer to that line, whatever that actually means.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] So you are just ducking the point? Threebabycows

Fix'D

Ya 360 is superior it runs Uncharted,MGS4 and Killzone 2 far superior on the 360 then the ps3. It also runs blu rays wayyy better!cdecrosta03

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] So you are just ducking the point? BoloTheGreat

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] So you are just ducking the point? ElNinjaLoco

Again, that's a really silly thing to say unless you are prepared to argue that there's any PS3 exclusive that looks better than the game in that video.

yes ps3 has inferior GPU but Cell makes up for it. PS3 IS more powerful then 360

sikanderahmed

yes ps3 has inferior GPU but Cell makes up for it. PS3 IS more powerful then 360

sikanderahmed

CELL does not make up for it. That's why the 360 version has a higher frame rate.

Obviously, CELL isn't capable of picking up the slack or somebody would have done it by now.

And if Crysis 2 doesn't look as good on 360, as a PS3 exclusive, what will your story be then? That the PS3 exclusive had more effort put in? Isn't that what Crytek is claiming, that they've got the most out of PS3?jonnyt61

I bet you, if given the chance, that their exclusives can look just as the same as the PS3 or even better than the PS3 version in less time & money.

Plus CPU doesn't mean crap when it comes to making games look better. The GPU is the most important part of graphics.

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Superior yet fails to have better looking games compared to Ps3's better looking game?Chutebox

Fix'D

Yes, the PS3 really has only one game that is better looking than the 360's best game as of now.

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Superior yet fails to have better looking games compared to Ps3's better looking games?Chutebox

Again, that's a really silly thing to say unless you are prepared to argue that there's any PS3 exclusive that looks better than the game in that video.

Watch the video, it's a game. It's just no longer in production, but it's a game, you can see him playing it. They are just using the game to show off the engine. BIG difference. It's a game.

You said they were tapping the Cell assist the GPU like that's some odd or herculean feat. That's the way devs are supposed to use it. The Cell is intended to compliment the GPU. It's not an "either or" situation on the PS3.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/1014410/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html

See the above video, at the end of the video, the Crytek representative responds to the question of why it's harder to get good results out of the PS3.

He specifically states that the PS3's GPU is low end compared to the other family of GPU's that they support - which includes Xenos from the 360.

This is definitive proof of what I have been saying, and confirm what everyone saw in the previously posted IGN videos of the Crytek 3 engine running side by side with the 360.

He also states that they have tapped CELL in order to allow the PS3 to compete ont he same level as 360. However from the side by side video demonstration that was recently shown it's clear that the 360 version is running much smoother.

This makes it clear that Crytek wants to take Unreal Engine 3's market share by marketing the fact that the Crytek 3.0 engine maximizes the output from the PS3. Which also reconfirms what we already know about the PS3 and how poorly it runs Unreal Engine 3.0 games compared to 360.

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3. He also clearly states that for most developers, (or specifically for developers without the Crytek 3.0 Engine at their disposal) that the PS3 is the lowest common denominator. This is marketing speak to sell the engine, as it still clearly runs better on 360.

This goes back to what has been the problem for the PS3 from the begining. No matter how much Sony wants to try to make you believe that it's the most powerful console, most everyone is too smart to believe that. Sony has been feeding use horse crap from the start and charging a premium for hardware that actually plays second fiddle to the 360.

ElNinjaLoco

Well, if Crytek says it, it must be true... :roll:

Nevermind Naughty Dog and Guerrilla Games, they can just sulk in a corner and wish they were developing on 360, which we all know is apparently far superior to the PS3 now that Crytek has said its GPU isn't as good.

I am so sick of these posts, I really have to take a break from System Wars for a while...

yes ps3 has inferior GPU but Cell makes up for it. PS3 IS more powerful then 360

sikanderahmed

[QUOTE="ElNinjaLoco"]

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/articles/1014410/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html

See the above video, at the end of the video, the Crytek representative responds to the question of why it's harder to get good results out of the PS3.

He specifically states that the PS3's GPU is low end compared to the other family of GPU's that they support - which includes Xenos from the 360.

This is definitive proof of what I have been saying, and confirm what everyone saw in the previously posted IGN videos of the Crytek 3 engine running side by side with the 360.

He also states that they have tapped CELL in order to allow the PS3 to compete ont he same level as 360. However from the side by side video demonstration that was recently shown it's clear that the 360 version is running much smoother.

This makes it clear that Crytek wants to take Unreal Engine 3's market share by marketing the fact that the Crytek 3.0 engine maximizes the output from the PS3. Which also reconfirms what we already know about the PS3 and how poorly it runs Unreal Engine 3.0 games compared to 360.

This proves yet again just how much more superior the 360 is to PS3. He also clearly states that for most developers, (or specifically for developers without the Crytek 3.0 Engine at their disposal) that the PS3 is the lowest common denominator. This is marketing speak to sell the engine, as it still clearly runs better on 360.

This goes back to what has been the problem for the PS3 from the begining. No matter how much Sony wants to try to make you believe that it's the most powerful console, most everyone is too smart to believe that. Sony has been feeding use horse crap from the start and charging a premium for hardware that actually plays second fiddle to the 360.

psn8214

Well, if Crytek says it, it must be true... :roll:

Nevermind Naughty Dog and Guerrilla Games, they can just sulk in a corner and wish they were developing on 360, which we all know is apparently far superior to the PS3 now that Crytek has said its GPU isn't as good.

I am so sick of these posts, I really have to take a break from System Wars for a while...

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

Fix'D

Threebabycows

Yes, the PS3 really has only one game that is better looking than the 360's best game as of now.

That's a sad joke really because the best looking games on PS3 are multiplatform games - and they all look better on 360.

Case in point, the game in the video shown is multiplatform, and it utter destroys anything else on PS3.

Crytek should look at Uncharted 2.

dream431ca

Why should they? :|

Please People, Watch the Video First, because I feel like Crytek is praising the PS3. The last 2 minutes is him praising the PS3Diviniuz

Indeed, seems like people have no apprehension for what he's trying to get across.

Crytek should look at Uncharted 2dream431ca

All arguements for the PS3 hardware fail.

A multiplatform game running on both 360 and PS3 looks FAR superior to anything exclusive on PS3 - and still runs better on 360.

There's no two ways around it folks. PS3 hardware has an inferior design, and it shows.

from what i saw of the demo, that was meant to show off some new tech for programming games accross all platforms not to show a comparison, the game was a little choppy on both with the program for the pc running that is, you cant compare the games based off of a demo that was shown