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Apple and Valve may be partnering with each other on a revolutionary video game console.


An unconfirmed report surfaced yesterday saying that Apple CEO Tim Cook was spotted at Valve's headquarters in Bellevue, Washington. Whenever Cook is spotted out and about, people take notice. The CEO of the world's most valuable company doesn't personally visit other tech companies to simply have a chat.

Many speculated as to why Cook would be visiting Valve, maker of popular game series like Half-Life, Team Fortress and Portal. Valve also boasts an incredibly robust online PC gaming platform called Steam that operates similarly to Apple's App Store.

We've gotten word that Cook was indeed at Valve yesterday, and what's more, Apple is planning a full-on assault to take over the living room. This assault won't just be limited to the long-rumored Apple HDTV set, but will also include a revolutionary home console as well.

According to sources to Cult of Mac, Apple is working on a television set with an iTunes-integrated touch screen remote and Siri-like voice command technology. The TV set will be coming before the end of 2012. Rumors and patents have said as much for the past year, so that's nothing new. But that's not all we've heard.

Our sources also say that Apple's television set will come with an Apple-branded, Kinect-like video game console. The interface will rely heavily on motion and touch controls.

If true, this wouldn't be Cupertino's first foray into the console market.

Back in 1995, Apple collaborated with Bandai to product a Mac OS running home console called the Bandai Pippin back in 1995. Things were pretty disjointed at Apple back then, and the company was trying to regain its image under the leadership of Michael Spindler. Apple licensed the Pippin platform to Bandai for a console, but the market was already dominated by the PlayStation and Sega. The Pippin was priced too high to compete and Bandai ended up selling less than 50,000 units before shelving the project.

Back to Valve. The gaming company makes Steam, a PC game distribution network with 30 million active users on both the PC and Mac. Steam is to gaming as iTunes is to music. Recent rumors have suggested that Valve is working on its own console dubbed the "Steam Box." Instead of another Xbox or PlayStation, the hardware would serve as more of a standard that Valve would license to partners, much like the way Google handles Android in the smartphone space.

Recent Valve job listings also indicate that the company is working on a mysterious hardware project. The Steam Box is rumored to feature biometrics technology in the form of a bracelet or wearable device for recognizing players.

Last year Valve CEO Gabe Newell seemed concerned with Apple's 'walled garden' approach and the possibility of its entrance into the TV market. "On the platform side, it's sort of ominous that the world seems to be moving away from open platforms," Newell told The Seattle Times. "They build a shiny sparkling thing that attracts users and then they control people's access to those things."

If there's anyone that's good at manufacturing and distributing hardware, it's Apple. We don't know the exact details of why Tim Cook met with Valve recently, but the two companies are obviously talking to one another.Based on what we've heard, it's possible that Apple could be considering Valve as a partner for its entrance into living room gaming.Cult of Mac


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Yeah.....thats not good.

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Motion and touch controls = ewww

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Sounds terrible. Might be the first Apple flop in a long time.

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Apple...doing something revolutionary? :lol:
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Makes sense if Valve wants to make a console, Apple would be a great partner for distribution, manufacturing and marketing.
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Sounds terrible. Might be the first Apple flop in a long time.

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Apple TV was a flop. Lion was a flop. Apple has had more flops in recent years than people know about.
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oh dear lord why? Don't do it Gaben!

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oh dear lord why? Don't do it Gaben!

Masenkoe
I still wonder how a partnership between Apple and Valve, or the the most closed up company and the most open company respectively, would actually work. :?
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Just when I thought microsoft couldn't bring out any more trash, apple comes out
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:lol:

In all honesty, though, I cannot imagine a more delicious turn of events. I'm enjoying a hearty laugh right now. What a wonderful article. Sometimes it takes a bombshell before reality hits.

[spoiler] I don't know what's going to actually happen, I'm sure Steam will continue to exist, but the rumored Steam Box being an Apple collaboration project is about as juicy as rumors come, lol [/spoiler]
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I still wonder how a partnership between Apple and Valve, or the the most closed up company and the most open company respectively, would actually work. :?charizard1605
I guarantee you Apple appreciates Valve's business style. Very secretive.
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*spoiler*musicalmac
How would a Steambox not based on Windows even work? That's what I am curious about.
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I find it strange that Valve is so eager to enter the console market. Looks like they really want to bring Steam to everyone.

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The f*** Apple, oh wait I see why you're doing this. Its Microsoft related isn't it?

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Apple anything: Do not want.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"]*spoiler*charizard1605
How would a Steambox not based on Windows even work? That's what I am curious about.

Maybe based on OSX?
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How would a Steambox not based on Windows even work? That's what I am curious about.charizard1605
It's all about content deals. Apple is the master of content deals. I do not know how it will all work, but I'll bet you there are well-laid plans waiting in the wings to strike. What time is better than the 'between' time, when current consoles are on the way out, and rumors of new ones are beginning to surface? I will almost guarantee you that it will not be a traditional console in the way we're all used to.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]*spoiler*Ironbash
How would a Steambox not based on Windows even work? That's what I am curious about.

Maybe based on OSX?

Then it won't run most of the games on Steam. Wasn't the point of the rumored Steambox to run most Steam games on a small box?
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Then it won't run most of the games on Steam. Wasn't the point of the rumored Steambox to run most Steam games on a small box?charizard1605
Here's the thing about Apple -- nobody with a brain says 'no' to Apple anymore. If a company has an opportunity to work closely with the most influential, financially secure, and culturally motivating entity on the planet, they're going to say yes if they want to make money.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]How would a Steambox not based on Windows even work? That's what I am curious about.musicalmac
It's all about content deals. Apple is the master of content deals. I do not know how it will all work, but I'll bet you there are well-laid plans waiting in the wings to strike. What time is better than the 'between' time, when current consoles are on the way out, and rumors of new ones are beginning to surface? I will almost guarantee you that it will not be a traditional console in the way we're all used to.

No, but what you're not understanding is- how will thousands of games, developed by third parties, developed for Windows, be transitioned onto a Steambox managed by Apple and Valve? Even if the licensing is handled- and maybe it will be- what about the fact that those games were developed for a Windows OS environment, and this potential Steambox is OSX based?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Then it won't run most of the games on Steam. Wasn't the point of the rumored Steambox to run most Steam games on a small box?musicalmac
Here's the thing about Apple -- nobody with a brain says 'no' to Apple anymore. If a company has an opportunity to work closely with the most influential, financially secure, and culturally motivating entity on the planet, they're going to say yes if they want to make money.

Even though apple is first, I doubt microsoft being in the top 10 is desperate to make more money, especially when they have their focus on windows 8 and the 720 next gen.
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That would be really interesting to see.

EDIT - What if Apple if trying to buyout Valve ?:oThey could do it cause they have a ton of money to spend.

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Apple...doing something revolutionary? :lol:MonsieurX
The iRevolution to be exact.
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Apple...doing something revolutionary? :lol:exiledsnake
The iRevolution to be exact.

Later renamed to iWii

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If it is OSX based it wouldn't have very many games.

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Apple won't do the console business unless they can do something creative and new with it while being dominant.

The potential to do all that with Valve is possible, however I think this rumour comes from the fact that Tim Cook visited Valve. It could mean a new console or it could mean steam becoming a more viable service on Apple hardware.

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god bless sony for giving me a non sh!t option
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No, but what you're not understanding is- how will thousands of games, developed by third parties, developed for Windows, be transitioned onto a Steambox managed by Apple and Valve? Even if the licensing is handled- and maybe it will be- what about the fact that those games were developed for a Windows OS environment, and this potential Steambox is OSX based?charizard1605
Lets think of it as a new console. All of Valve's current games would work, and over time developers would make their games work with the new console. Only this time, there's no need for a physical release, just digital compatibility. And I guarantee you, if Apple is really going to do this, Valve's HQ isn't the only one Tim has visited. Big name developers will have been contacted about the news, and asked to prepare.
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Apple won't do the console business unless they can do something creative and new with it while being dominant.

The potential to do all that with Valve is possible, however I think this rumour comes from the fact that Tim Cook visited Valve. It could mean a new console or it could mean steam becoming a more viable service on Apple hardware.

Haziqonfire
Steam on OSX is exactly like Steam on Windows. There's nothing more Valve can do, parity has already been achieved.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]No, but what you're not understanding is- how will thousands of games, developed by third parties, developed for Windows, be transitioned onto a Steambox managed by Apple and Valve? Even if the licensing is handled- and maybe it will be- what about the fact that those games were developed for a Windows OS environment, and this potential Steambox is OSX based?musicalmac
Lets think of it as a new console. All of Valve's current games would work, and over time developers would make their games work with the new console. Only this time, there's no need for a physical release, just digital compatibility. And I guarantee you, if Apple is really going to do this, Valve's HQ isn't the only one Tim has visited. Big name developers will have been contacted about the news, and asked to prepare.

Wait, I'm confused: are you talking about a new console Apple is developing, and Valve happens to be just one developer they've contacted... or are you talking about an Apple/Valve Steambox? Because I'm referring to the latter possibility, not the former. The former is completely out of the realm of possibility for Apple, and would be a toxic step if you think about it. For instance, where is Apple's first party?
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Apple won't do the console business unless they can do something creative and new with it while being dominant.

The potential to do all that with Valve is possible, however I think this rumour comes from the fact that Tim Cook visited Valve. It could mean a new console or it could mean steam becoming a more viable service on Apple hardware.

musicalmac
Steam on OSX is exactly like Steam on Windows. There's nothing more Valve can do, parity has already been achieved.

I wasn't thinking OSX. I was thinking integrating steam on iPhones/iPads -- That seems like something that could be huge for the smartphone/tablet market.
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Let us hope it flops horribly.

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Sounds terrible. Might be the first Apple flop in a long time.

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Kinect + apple + app store is a pure win for apple. The casuals will love it and happily pay $600 for current gen graphics.
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

Apple won't do the console business unless they can do something creative and new with it while being dominant.

The potential to do all that with Valve is possible, however I think this rumour comes from the fact that Tim Cook visited Valve. It could mean a new console or it could mean steam becoming a more viable service on Apple hardware.

Haziqonfire

Steam on OSX is exactly like Steam on Windows. There's nothing more Valve can do, parity has already been achieved.

I wasn't thinking OSX. I was thinking integrating steam on iPhones/iPads -- That seems like something that could be huge for the smartphone/tablet market.

Why would that be huge? Steam on iphone will be just another distribution service, nothing else. The success of Steam is because of PC gaming, on an iphone it would be worthless. Is nott like the iphone doesn't have a distribution service already.

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

Sounds terrible. Might be the first Apple flop in a long time.

charizard1605

Apple TV was a flop. Lion was a flop. Apple has had more flops in recent years than people know about.

tv yes

lion not really lol

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

Sounds terrible. Might be the first Apple flop in a long time.

Jonwh18

Apple TV was a flop. Lion was a flop. Apple has had more flops in recent years than people know about.

tv yes

lion not really lol

It was widely criticized, and its rate of adoption was much slower than Snow Leopard's.
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Apple TV was a flop. Lion was a flop. Apple has had more flops in recent years than people know about.charizard1605

tv yes

lion not really lol

It was widely criticized, and its rate of adoption was much slower than Snow Leopard's.

Apple has this:

They do not care.

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Apple...doing something revolutionary? :lol:MonsieurX

If you making it shiny and slap an expensive price tag on it backed with a massive marketing campaign anything can be revolutionary. Apple could tell us that buying their sh*t in bags is revolutionary.

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Actually I hope the console is a roaring succes. If this sh*tty apple/vavle console takes up the casual market Sony Ninty and M4 might give up on the casuals and go back to the core gaming market

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Apple TV was a flop. Lion was a flop. Apple has had more flops in recent years than people know about.charizard1605

tv yes

lion not really lol

It was widely criticized, and its rate of adoption was much slower than Snow Leopard's.

thats because snow leopard is F*CKING AMAZING!!! I still have it on my laptop just cuz lol

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

tv yes

lion not really lol

Jonwh18

It was widely criticized, and its rate of adoption was much slower than Snow Leopard's.

thats because snow leopard is F*CKING AMAZING!!! I still have it on my laptop just cuz lol

Yes, and Lion was a step down. I see Snow Leopard/Lion as a mini XP/Vista kind of debacle.
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] It was widely criticized, and its rate of adoption was much slower than Snow Leopard's.charizard1605

thats because snow leopard is F*CKING AMAZING!!! I still have it on my laptop just cuz lol

Yes, and Lion was a step down. I see Snow Leopard/Lion as a mini XP/Vista kind of debacle.

touche' lol it kinda is only instead of F*cking up your computer you pay $30 and are like ......... meh

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"] thats because snow leopard is F*CKING AMAZING!!! I still have it on my laptop just cuz lol

Jonwh18

Yes, and Lion was a step down. I see Snow Leopard/Lion as a mini XP/Vista kind of debacle.

touche' lol it kinda is only instead of F*cking up your computer you pay $30 and are like ..... .> .....meh .....

Yeah... Can you (legally) downgrade from Lion to Snow Leopard?
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Called it. Apple to use iTVs as trojan horse to introduce gaming hardware in your home... And now with Steam fully supported :shock:

More seriously, I think Cook visited Valve because they are trying to get more games available on Macs.

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yes, and Lion was a step down. I see Snow Leopard/Lion as a mini XP/Vista kind of debacle.charizard1605

touche' lol it kinda is only instead of F*cking up your computer you pay $30 and are like ..... .> .....meh .....

Yeah... Can you (legally) downgrade from Lion to Snow Leopard?

yup lol its called back up your sh*t wipe the HD and reinstall OSX SL pain in the ass but doable and very much legal. Make sure you save the documents, music, photos, movies, etc in actual folders though because im not sure that OSX SL has all the updates that lions does so a back of individual programs wouldn't work.

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Too much speculation without much actual real information to go on.
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#48 musicalmac  Moderator
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Wait, I'm confused: are you talking about a new console Apple is developing, and Valve happens to be just one developer they've contacted... or are you talking about an Apple/Valve Steambox? Because I'm referring to the latter possibility, not the former. The former is completely out of the realm of possibility for Apple, and would be a toxic step if you think about it. For instance, where is Apple's first party?

I'm talking about the potential Apple/Valve Steambox. [QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] I wasn't thinking OSX. I was thinking integrating steam on iPhones/iPads -- That seems like something that could be huge for the smartphone/tablet market.

Steam is already available for iOS, as well. And I can't imagine Apple giving anyone permission to sell apps outside of their own App Store.
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#49 ShadowDeathX
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More like Apple is going to release a console and they want Valve to produce some games for it, maybe exclusive. Half-Life 2 Ep. 3 only on iGame.
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#50 haziqonfire
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[QUOTE="musicalmac"] Steam is already available for iOS, as well. And I can't imagine Apple giving anyone permission to sell apps outside of their own App Store.

Oh, I didn't realize that. I don't own any Apple products so I don't know. Though, chances are I will probably end up owning an iPhone in the next year or so. Maybe it is a new console then. I don't know, lol.