Current Kinect for gaming is an epic fail

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#1 zaigham_riaz
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It's one of those prodcuts that make a great 1st impression, but after that ....................

Like those hot shallow girls, the moment you see them, you wanna have them. But after you've had them, it's over.

In Microsoft's own capus, in almost every game room, they got a Kinect hooked up with at least one XBOX360. In the beginning, when they installed it, people just tried that thing and played it with excitement. Just a month gone and nobody even turns it on. People would always play non-kinect based games.

Please don't bring up the sales number, they don't mean anything for a gamer's personal experience. Sure it can bring you a false feeling of self satisfaction that it got sold well but that's it.

In my opinion, this technology is never going to really work out because of a single fact that people play games to relax and enjoy themselves, not to get tired. Play any game with Kinect and within half an hour you'll be tired enough not to play anymore. If you want exercise, I think doing some real exercise is far better.

Secondly current Kinect is just a middle-ware immature technology. It really deserved a dedicated processor. Now while playihng most of the games, for example Kinect Adventures, when you see an obstacle heading your way, you need to jump anywhere half to one second before you actually hit it on the screen. It's just unnatural and not precise. Controllers/keyboards/mice have a much better, precise and immediate response. Current kinect is just no match for them.

It's a good technology, no doubt. But just not practical for gaming since it'll always make you feel tired. Recently MS released it's SDK for PC. I was thinking to buy a Kinect myself and do some win 7 interfacing with it. But then just the idea of keep shaking your body all the time and getting a laggy, imprecise response kills it all. At least with mouse/keyboard you can rest your arms while having long sessions of using computer.

I'm not against motion controls. In fact, some of them are really nice. I, myself use a motion controller for playing racing games in particular, but the only point of this it to get a more natural and precise control scheme, that kinect just doesn't offer that and makes you tired instead.

Nonetheless it's a good toy to show off.

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People don't play Dance Central to "get tired".
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#3 NoodleFighter
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I won't bother with getting Kinect for PC and instead get Razer Hydras.

That ghost recon demonstration looked really sad. I think they should just stick to the things like Dancing games and that forza demonstration.

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#4 SoBaus
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dance central has been beloved by every social gathering ive had. Though i can see why someone that doesnt have social gatherings might not like it.

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#5 emanc93
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It's still in the infancy of it's life. I agree that there hasn't been any software that doesn't seem like anything more than a glorified tech demo to me, in my opinion. However, the technology is really fascinating and there is a lot of potential for a new way of immersion into video games. Give it some time. Every new hardware generally has this problem.

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#6 ShadowriverUB
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No body force you to make controls o Windows that require shakeing :p

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#7 loosingENDS
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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

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LOL? best games of the generation? What games do you play?
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It's one of those prodcuts that make a great 1st impression, but after that ....................

Like those hot shallow girls, the moment you see them, you wanna have them. But after you've had them, it's over.

In Microsoft's own capus, in almost every game room, they got a Kinect hooked up with at least one XBOX360. In the beginning, when they installed it, people just tried that thing and played it with excitement. Just a month gone and nobody even turns it on. People would always play non-kinect based games.

Please don't bring up the sales number, they don't mean anything for a gamer's personal experience. Sure it can bring you a false feeling of self satisfaction that it got sold well but that's it.

In my opinion, this technology is never going to really work out because of a single fact that people play games to relax and enjoy themselves, not to get tired. Play any game with Kinect and within half an hour you'll be tired enough not to play anymore. If you want exercise, I think doing some real exercise is far better.

Secondly current Kinect is just a middle-ware immature technology. It really deserved a dedicated processor. Now while playihng most of the games, for example Kinect Adventures, when you see an obstacle heading your way, you need to jump anywhere half to one second before you actually hit it on the screen. It's just unnatural and not precise. Controllers/keyboards/mice have a much better, precise and immediate response. Current kinect is just no match for them.

It's a good technology, no doubt. But just not practical for gaming since it'll always make you feel tired. Recently MS released it's SDK for PC. I was thinking to buy a Kinect myself and do some win 7 interfacing with it. But then just the idea of keep shaking your body all the time and getting a laggy, imprecise response kills it all. At least with mouse/keyboard you can rest your arms while having long sessions of using computer.

I'm not against motion controls. In fact, some of them are really nice. I, myself use a motion controller for playing racing games in particular, but the only point of this it to get a more natural and precise control scheme, that kinect just doesn't offer that and makes you tired instead.

Nonetheless it's a good toy to show off.

zaigham_riaz

Every been to an arcade and seen kids jumping around like crazy on various platforms to play the game?

I assume you are inert.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

kris9031998

LOL? best games of the generation? What games do you play?

Probably a wider variety than you play. Is there a problem with that?

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Couldn't agree more. With the embarrassing E3, lame core game implementation and god awful games, it's a wonder MS started off this generation actually good.
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#12 ConkerAndBerri2
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Kinect is a great concept.. Microsoft just halfassed it like how the wii started out. I really dont see this technology going anywhere. It will make it as far as the ps3s eye did. I would of had more faith in Microsoft if 3 of their xboxs hadn't broken down on me. Sure the new ones don't rrod or won't read discs after a while but Microsoft should have gotten it right the first time.
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

SUD123456

LOL? best games of the generation? What games do you play?

Probably a wider variety than you play. Is there a problem with that?

I dont know how someone can say party games (except child of eden, that makes some sense) are the best and most fun games of the generation, while they have a "wider" variety of games they play.
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I only just recently got a Kinect (it was at a discount) but the realization of the problems and limitations of the product was almost instantaneous. Before I experienced it for myself I wasn't sure exactly what it was, how it worked, what it could do, so perhaps it could do all kinds of cool stuff. And for the first couple of minutes you're like "wow, magic!". But yeah, that quickly dissipates. You get physical actions as a user input, which can be a good thing and work well for certain types of games, but it's at the expense of...pretty much everything else. Precision, speed, reliability, versatility, comfortability...

Like, you'd think something like this would work great for a user interface. You just point and move things around, sort of like an invisible touchscreen. But that's not how it works at all. It is a significantly slower, more limited and cumbersome interface than the controller operated one. And that about sums up the Kinect. It's a cool thing in theory, in practice...I'm yet to be convinced that it's the case.

A redeeming factor could be Kinect as additional input for games mainly designed around a controller. For example the head tracking in Forza 4. And....well I believe that's the one example that exists.

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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

loosingENDS
i think its time for a new sig.. ye kno,now that i have got my SEXPLAY :)
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

SUD123456

LOL? best games of the generation? What games do you play?

Probably a wider variety than you play. Is there a problem with that?

you are probably one in a billion who thinks that, the general opinion is kinect is trash.

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#17 BigBoss255
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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

loosingENDS

Haha.:lol:

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Dance Central is the only half decent Kinect game and even at that i am guessing people who play it have to do the dance moves before the trigger point due to the processing time involved and they probably don't realise they are doing it.
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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generation

loosingENDS

Please stop :lol:

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"] LOL? best games of the generation? What games do you play?kris9031998

Probably a wider variety than you play. Is there a problem with that?

I dont know how someone can say party games (except child of eden, that makes some sense) are the best and most fun games of the generation, while they have a "wider" variety of games they play.

Games are meant for fun/entertainment, are they not?

What if you derive fun/entertainment from having friends over and playing games like Kinect Sports or Dance Central?

How is this different than having friends over to play cards or boardgames, which can be just as or more fun/entertaining than videogames in general?

Why is it that when I look at my daughter having fun she can do so without playing COD or whatever you might have fun playing?

Indeed, why is it that you think the best and most fun games are limited to the ones aimed at you and/or what you like?

As an example, Angry Birds is currently providing more fun and entertainment to more people than pretty much any game. Why can't one find Angry Birds to be one of the best and most fun games currently out?

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#21 ZombieKiller7
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All motion gaming is basically epic fail.

Kinect is only worse because MS pushes it harder.

If they eased up on trying to shove it down my throat, it would be only as bad as Move and Wii.

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#22 kris9031998
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

Probably a wider variety than you play. Is there a problem with that?

SUD123456

I dont know how someone can say party games (except child of eden, that makes some sense) are the best and most fun games of the generation, while they have a "wider" variety of games they play.

Games are meant for fun/entertainment, are they not?

What if you derive fun/entertainment from having friends over and playing games like Kinect Sports or Dance Central?

How is this different than having friends over to play cards or boardgames, which can be just as or more fun/entertaining than videogames in general?

Why is it that when I look at my daughter having fun she can do so without playing COD or whatever you might have fun playing?

Indeed, why is it that you think the best and most fun games are limited to the ones aimed at you and/or what you like?

As an example, Angry Birds is currently providing more fun and entertainment to more people than pretty much any game. Why can't one find Angry Birds to be one of the best and most fun games currently out?

When i think about how i like my games, i dont ONLY think about the fun. I think about the technical aspects, the story, the soundtrack, the sound, the art, everything. There is a difference between video games and just plain games; i play video games for the experience and i play regular games (board games, athletic games, etc.) just for the enjoyment. It's like comparing a movie and a book. A book is meant to pull you in and give you an experience (depending of book, of course) while a movie is usually supposed to be a one time kind of thing where you watch it, have fun, and leave. This is why i dont consider games like Kinect sports or Dance central as a true "video game" because it lacks depth.
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#23 WilliamRLBaker
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For you it is but it seems to me that quite a few children and families like it.
there is infact one moderator on the board here whom likes kinect games.

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Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generationloosingENDS

Are you serious? :lol:

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#25 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Yet, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Child of Eden are some of my best and most fun games this generationgarland51

Are you serious? :lol:

alot of people like the games specially child of eden *you do know it can be played with a controller and has been shown to be pretty accurate with kinect control*

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#26 Another-World
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For core gamers like you and me(and most ly everybody on this board), yes I agree. However for somebody whose whole idea of gaming derives from games like wii sports and party games etc. that is basically somebody who considers gaming as a form of social interaction, it is a nice thing.

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="kris9031998"] I dont know how someone can say party games (except child of eden, that makes some sense) are the best and most fun games of the generation, while they have a "wider" variety of games they play. kris9031998

Games are meant for fun/entertainment, are they not?

What if you derive fun/entertainment from having friends over and playing games like Kinect Sports or Dance Central?

How is this different than having friends over to play cards or boardgames, which can be just as or more fun/entertaining than videogames in general?

Why is it that when I look at my daughter having fun she can do so without playing COD or whatever you might have fun playing?

Indeed, why is it that you think the best and most fun games are limited to the ones aimed at you and/or what you like?

As an example, Angry Birds is currently providing more fun and entertainment to more people than pretty much any game. Why can't one find Angry Birds to be one of the best and most fun games currently out?

When i think about how i like my games, i dont ONLY think about the fun. I think about the technical aspects, the story, the soundtrack, the sound, the art, everything. There is a difference between video games and just plain games; i play video games for the experience and i play regular games (board games, athletic games, etc.) just for the enjoyment. It's like comparing a movie and a book. A book is meant to pull you in and give you an experience (depending of book, of course) while a movie is usually supposed to be a one time kind of thing where you watch it, have fun, and leave. This is why i dont consider games like Kinect sports or Dance central as a true "video game" because it lacks depth.

They are meant to entertain one way or another, you may not consider them ''video games'' but thats what they are. Not all people find Battlefield or GTA better than kinect sports or dance central. If you find one experience better than another thats fine, but dont disregard them just because YOU dont like them.