Dante's appearance in Playstation All Stars is a disgrace.

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#1 BigBoss255
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In a game that's meant to celebrate 15 years or however many of Playstation what is this bastardised character doing in here?. What history does this form of Dante have on playstation?.

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#2 NoirLamia777
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I feel the same way, he is the first character in which I was just upset to see in the game. I'm still going to pick up the game but I really hope to see a lot more sony characters.

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One of the few times I've seen people complaining about additional content in a game... Solid Snake was in SSBB so.....
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#4 AcidSoldner
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Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.
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He started out on the Playstation that is why.....

Unlike Nintendo Instead of repeating character movesets with characters from the same game like they did with Fox they decited to bring in a new one... so it's all good... why complain ?

and this still bothers me today....

why does ganondorf... a dark wizard.. a weapon wielder... has a puncing and kicking character's moveset.. ?

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#6 parkurtommo
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Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

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#7 Chris_Williams
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Ninja Theory wanted to use the dante we all know and love but Capcom said no so they designed their owned, I'm sure Superbot went to Capcom and asked and i'm sure Capcom said NOOO, so they used Ninja Theories Dante "also" Dante is already in MVC3. I'm sure capcom only wants their Dante in Capcom only games. Also its one freaking character if you don't like him then don't use him.

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Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.AcidSoldner
White haired Dante from DMC1-4 deserves to be there, not the one from the new DMC.
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Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.AcidSoldner

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

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#10 Pikminmaniac
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I called it. I wanted Dante in the game, but the Dante that appeared exclusively on the PS2. I've said countless times on other threads that Capcom wouldn't let Sony use Dante unless he promoted their new game. Here's hoping he has free to use costume switch for the original Dante design. It really sucks that he doesn't have any of CIassic Dante's signature moves though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VInipGOi7YM

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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.Wanderer5

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

DmC is still part of the Devil May Cry franchise, canon/same universe or not. Of course Capcom would put in the new Dante, DmC is just around the corner and they're going to promote the new Dante, not the old one. To think Capcom would do anything different is just silly.
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#12 ChikaraShref
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Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

parkurtommo
better yet, why does it have sonic?
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Agreed.
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#14 RR360DD
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Because the "game" is actually just a promotional tool. LOL at Big Daddy being in there when the franchise started out on 360/PC.
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#15 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

ChikaraShref
better yet, why does it have sonic?

Forgot about that one, nintendo you suck.
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The first 3 Devil May Cry games were PlayStation 2 exclusives....your argument makes no sense. It's kind of like MGS, it's on other platforms now, but it started off on PlayStation (Solid, not Metal Gear NES) and even today the PlayStaton brand is still tied to MGS. PlayStation is it's home.

People are just looking for any reason to rip on this game. It doesn't matter what they do with it, you haters will never be pleased. They could ad in Cloud from FF7 and Spyro and you would still find a reason to hate on it.

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The first 3 Devil May Cry games were PlayStation 2 exclusives....your argument makes no sense. It's kind of like MGS, it's on other platforms now, but it started off on PlayStation (Solid, not Metal Gear NES) and even today the PlayStaton brand is still tied to MGS. PlayStation is it's home.

People are just looking for anyreason to rip on this game. It doesn't matter what they do with it, you haters will never be pleased. They could ad in Cloud from FF7 and Spyro and you would still find a reason to hate on it.

ShadowMoses900

Read his post again. He just complaining that the new Dante is in it not the old one.

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#18 CanYouDiglt
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Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

parkurtommo
Bad enough the game is a complete ripoff but Sony coping again by putting in Raiden.
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.AcidSoldner

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

DmC is still part of the Devil May Cry franchise, canon/same universe or not. Of course Capcom would put in the new Dante, DmC is just around the corner and they're going to promote the new Dante, not the old one. To think Capcom would do anything different is just silly.

basicly this. I wouldint be shocked if they had a alt outfit. End of the day this is a business and they wanna promote thier new product.

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In a game that's meant to celebrate 15 years or however many of Playstation what is this bastardised character doing in here?. What history does this form of Dante have on playstation?.

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Does it matter if he plays well? I'm also 100% that we'll see additional Dante costumes.
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#21 ShadowMoses900
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He started out on the Playstation that is why.....

Unlike Nintendo Instead of repeating character movesets with characters from the same game like they did with Fox they decited to bring in a new one... so it's all good... why complain ?

and this still bothers me today....

why does ganondorf... a dark wizard.. a weapon wielder... has a puncing and kicking character's moveset.. ?

Joedgabe

This is something that disappointed me with Smash Bros. It has large roster, but a lot of the characters are just clones for each other. I was excited about unlocking a new character only to find out later that they are just a clone of somebody and then I get disappointed. I was hoping for someone unique.

Ganon should fight like Ganon, swords and magic, that's what he does in the Zelda games. So why does he fight like Captain Falcon? Ganon never once punces or kicks in the Zelda games, I have never seen him ever do a falcon punch on Link. Ever. It makes no sense Nintendo.

The people hating on this game are hypocrites. They never b!tched about having Sonic and Snake in Brawl, no they were happy with that. But it happens in PBR and now they are angry?

I bet you if the next Smash Bros game was coming out instead and they announced Big Daddy and Dante for it these PBR haters would be praising the game and those characters.

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#22 Wanderer5
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Actually this might be a good thing for those that hate the new Dante. They can use him as a training dummy and beat him as much as they want.:P

There probably will be a alt costume that will have the old Dante's likeness anyway.

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#23 Shirokishi_
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I honestly, honeslty cant believe people are making such a huge fuss over this.
Disgrace? Really? Its just a new design with a familiar moveset Im sure. People really need to settle down.

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I honestly, honeslty cant believe people are making such a huge fuss over this.
Disgrace? Really? Its just a new design with a familiar moveset Im sure. People really need to settle down.

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Not a familiar moveset to me :?

I would have been fine if he played like CIassic Dante, but I can't recognize Dante in this moveset

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#25 II_Seraphim_II
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Can we atleast wait til the new DMC comes out before we bash this dante? Why are you guys so afraid of change? If it wasnt for change, we would still have the old Adam Weest tacky spandex batman running around, and not this more gritty down to earth version. I'm happy they put this new Dante in because u know what? thats the dante you're going to be seeing for the next couple of years, so get used to it. Old Dante is gone, at least until they finish the 3-6 games this DMC reboot is gonna get.
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#26 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

I honestly, honeslty cant believe people are making such a huge fuss over this.
Disgrace? Really? Its just a new design with a familiar moveset Im sure. People really need to settle down.

Pikminmaniac

Not a familiar moveset to me :?

I would have been fine if he played like CIassic Dante, but I can't recognize Dante in this moveset


Sword and guns, unless you want to be anal. Im not talking about the new DMC game, Im talking about PSABR. He will play almost no different than "old" Dante would have if he was in the game Im sure.
People really need to calm their cl!ts.

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#27 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

I honestly, honeslty cant believe people are making such a huge fuss over this.
Disgrace? Really? Its just a new design with a familiar moveset Im sure. People really need to settle down.

Pikminmaniac

Not a familiar moveset to me :?

I would have been fine if he played like CIassic Dante, but I can't recognize Dante in this moveset

So what you're saying is you're disappointed that this game isnt exactly like the previous ones? Isn't SW always up in arms about COD being the same rehashed trash? Well, you know what? DMC was becoming the same rehashed trash! I'm glad its getting a change.
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I called it. I wanted Dante in the game, but the Dante that appeared exclusively on the PS2. I've said countless times on other threads that Capcom wouldn't let Sony use Dante unless he promoted their new game. Here's hoping he has free to use costume switch for the original Dante design. It really sucks that he doesn't have any of CIassic Dante's signature moves though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VInipGOi7YM

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what in the hell........

lol his level 3 super is beyond broken

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#29 WiiCubeM1
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You mean besides the 7 year history as a Playstation exclusive? If the Dante thing gets brought up again... well... I'll be avoiding you idiots for a while.

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For thinking that this game is a flop people sure care a lot about the characters in it. :roll:

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#32 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

parkurtommo

Hideo Kojima is friends with many people at Nintendo and he said "I want Snake to be in Smash Bros." (Nintendo was to far along to put him in Melee) They said we will put him in the next game but we need a Metal Gear solid on the GCN so Konami let Silicon Knights (a 2nd Party for Nintendo at the time) make Twin Snakes. They than put Snake in Brawl.

Kojima was having lunch with Miyamoto when he suggested that Snake be in Smash Bros.

I have no idea why Sonic was in it I guess SEGA, Nintendo, and a lot of fans wanted to see Sonic and Mario fight each other in a game. It also lead to Nintendo and SEGA working together on Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games series.

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In a game that's meant to celebrate 15 years or however many of Playstation what is this bastardised character doing in here?. What history does this form of Dante have on playstation?.

BigBoss255

Maybe there's an alternate costume.

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Can we atleast wait til the new DMC comes out before we bash this dante? Why are you guys so afraid of change? If it wasnt for change, we would still have the old Adam Weest tacky spandex batman running around, and not this more gritty down to earth version. I'm happy they put this new Dante in because u know what? thats the dante you're going to be seeing for the next couple of years, so get used to it. Old Dante is gone, at least until they finish the 3-6 games this DMC reboot is gonna get.II_Seraphim_II
i agree. if not for change, we'd still have adam west as batman. whyyyyyyyy?!?!?! :cry: :cry: :cry:
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.Wanderer5

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

No it didn't DMC was exclusive for 2 games, and the dante that everyone loves sooooooooooooo much was also on PC
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[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.Wanderer5

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

No it didn't DMC was exclusive for 2 games, and the dante that everyone loves sooooooooooooo much was also on PC
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#37 Mozelleple112
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Old Dante or gtfo.. DMC1 was a PS2 exclusive and one of the best HnS of all time.. That's the Dante I came to know and love, not emo boy.

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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Devil May Cry started out as a Playstation exclusive. So yeah, he does have a relevant history there.Animal-Mother

He complaining that they're using the new Dante instead of the old one which I agree because the old one represented when the series was playstation exclusive.

No it didn't DMC was exclusive for 2 games, and the dante that everyone loves sooooooooooooo much was also on PC

DMC3 was still a temporary exclusive. The original Dante's Awakening is still a PS2 exclusive only the Special Edition with Vergil came out for both the PS2 as PC and even so the PC version came out later after the PS2 one. Sure DMC isnt an exclusive anymore, specially NOW that the HD collection came out but one had to be out of his mind if he denied Dante is a PlayStation character and will always be associated with PlayStation

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The first 3 Devil May Cry games were PlayStation 2 exclusives....your argument makes no sense. It's kind of like MGS, it's on other platforms now, but it started off on PlayStation (Solid, not Metal Gear NES) and even today the PlayStaton brand is still tied to MGS. PlayStation is it's home.

People are just looking for any reason to rip on this game. It doesn't matter what they do with it, you haters will never be pleased. They could ad in Cloud from FF7 and Spyro and you would still find a reason to hate on it.

ShadowMoses900

I really don't get why people separate Metal Gear and Solid into separate series. Both take place in the same universe, MGS 1 is a sequel to MG2, and the overall timeline takes MG 1 and MG 2 into account. They were never intended to be separate series. The only reason why Solid appeared in the title of the PS1 game, was due to it being 3-D

But they are not separate series. Metal Gear(All games, including the Solid ones) started on the MSX computer in the 90's.

I'm not denying the close relationship between the series and Playstation platforms, but people really need to stop separating the MSX games and the Solid games. They are all part of a single series. And while the PS1 was the birthplace of 3-D Meta Gear, the overall series was born on the MSX computer.

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#40 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The first 3 Devil May Cry games were PlayStation 2 exclusives....your argument makes no sense. It's kind of like MGS, it's on other platforms now, but it started off on PlayStation (Solid, not Metal Gear NES) and even today the PlayStaton brand is still tied to MGS. PlayStation is it's home.

People are just looking for any reason to rip on this game. It doesn't matter what they do with it, you haters will never be pleased. They could ad in Cloud from FF7 and Spyro and you would still find a reason to hate on it.

caryslan2

I really don't get why people separate Metal Gear and Solid into separate series. Both take place in the same universe, MGS 1 is a sequel to MG2, and the overall timeline takes MG 1 and MG 2 into account. They were never intended to be separate series. The only reason why Solid appeared in the title of the PS1 game, was due to it being 3-D

But they are not separate series. Metal Gear(All games, including the Solid ones) started on the MSX computer in the 90's.

I'm not denying the close relationship between the series and Playstation platforms, but people really need to stop separating the MSX games and the Solid games. They are all part of a single series. And while the PS1 was the birthplace of 3-D Meta Gear, the overall series was born on the MSX computer.

and how many people know that? Its not a big deal, hell even Hideo Kojima has said playstation revived mgs and thats why mgs4 has a ton of tribute to sony.
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#41 caryslan2
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Hideo Kojima is friends with many people at Nintendo and he said "I want Snake to be in Smash Bros." (Nintendo was to far along to put him in Melee) They said we will put him in the next game but we need a Metal Gear solid on the GCN so Konami let Silicon Knights (a 2nd Party for Nintendo at the time) make Twin Snakes. They than put Snake in Brawl.

Kojima was having lunch with Miyamoto when he suggested that Snake be in Smash Bros.

I have no idea why Sonic was in it I guess SEGA, Nintendo, and a lot of fans wanted to see Sonic and Mario fight each other in a game. It also lead to Nintendo and SEGA working together on Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games series.

Sonic was voted into the roster of Brawl. Fans wanted to see him in the game, and he got the most votes out of any character on several polls. Its been hinted at on various sites, but Sonic was something of a late addition. Originally, Snake was suppose to be the only third-party character, while Roy and Mewtwo were supposed to return.

Sonic's popularity along with the fan's demands for him convinced Sega and Nintendo to work out a deal to let him in. Sadly, this had the added-effect of causing Roy and Mewtwo to be cut. Before Sonic was added, only five characters needed to be finished. They were Jigglypuff, Wolf, Toon Link, Roy, and Mewtwo.

Jigglypuff got in due to being the oldest veteran out of the five, while Wolf and Toon Link got in due to being new characters. Which means Roy and Mewtwo got put on the chopping block so Sonic could be added.

But Sonic was voted into the game by the fans. And with the Mario & Sonic games being so popular, I highly doubt he is going anywhere anytime soon.

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#42 dantesergei
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I dont think that's a bad choice, but i think they should look up a bit on the past. Some characters from Chrono Cross, Legacy of Kain or Tenchu series.
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#43 OhSnapitz
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And get another 3rd party character into the mix.. I guess I can't get too upset seeing as how DMC started on the playstation (Damn I loved that game). But I too would have liked to see old Dante instead of twilight Dante. But I'm sure there will be an alternate form of some sort.
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#44 caryslan2
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[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

He started out on the Playstation that is why.....

Unlike Nintendo Instead of repeating character movesets with characters from the same game like they did with Fox they decited to bring in a new one... so it's all good... why complain ?

and this still bothers me today....

why does ganondorf... a dark wizard.. a weapon wielder... has a puncing and kicking character's moveset.. ?

ShadowMoses900

This is something that disappointed me with Smash Bros. It has large roster, but a lot of the characters are just clones for each other. I was excited about unlocking a new character only to find out later that they are just a clone of somebody and then I get disappointed. I was hoping for someone unique.

Ganon should fight like Ganon, swords and magic, that's what he does in the Zelda games. So why does he fight like Captain Falcon? Ganon never once punces or kicks in the Zelda games, I have never seen him ever do a falcon punch on Link. Ever. It makes no sense Nintendo.

The people hating on this game are hypocrites. They never b!tched about having Sonic and Snake in Brawl, no they were happy with that. But it happens in PBR and now they are angry?

I bet you if the next Smash Bros game was coming out instead and they announced Big Daddy and Dante for it these PBR haters would be praising the game and those characters.

Actually, there are alot of fans who complained about Snake and Sonic being in Brawl's roster. I've been to many Smash boards, and there is always a vocal group of fans who feel the roster should be All-Nintendo or even go a step further can claim that Sonic and Snake "ruined" Brawl.

yes, there are some fanboys who are hypocrites. But there are just as many fans who would be happy seeing Sonic and Snake cut out of the roster of SSB4, and it be all-Nintendo. And Big Daddy and Dante would cause an even bigger uproar from those fans.

Sonic and Snake have been in games on Nintendo platforms. Those two have never been on a Nintendo platform. And while I liked Sonic and Snake in Brawl, I would be very unhappy if those two were given a spot on Smash 4's roster. Spots that should be given to characters like Mega Man and Simon Belmont.

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#45 48knightsxiii
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]One of the few times I've seen people complaining about additional content in a game... Solid Snake was in SSBB so.....

The creator of SSB does not want outside characters in his next game.
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#46 g0ddyX
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Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

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#47 SaltyMeatballs
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Because... PlayStation All Stars... should pretty much explain why he is there.
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#48 GreenGoblin2099
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ITT: Reading comprehension skills a lacking...

I just saw the new Vergil BTW, uuuuugh!!!! :x

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#50 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Why does SSBB have Solid Snake?

What a disgrace.

g0ddyX



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Because Kojima wanted Solid Snake in SSBB.