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#51 Grawse
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Moooooo!!!!!!

Seriously though, wth is a cow?

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A PS3 fanboy.

So what is an xbox fanboy? And what does a cow have to do with the ps3?

360 fanboy = lemming
PS3/Sony fanboy = cow
Wii/Nintendo fanbony = sheep
PC fanboy = hermit

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#52 CTR360
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iam happy dark souls coming on xbox 360
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#53 hypoty
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of course its a good thing, but a potential issue i see is that the 360 community just doesn't seem like the type that will buy too many copies of this kind of game. shooters yes, but hardcore hard as hell jrpg, i have my doubts. and for a game that features a very important online aspect, i get the feeling that the 360 servers will be quite dead by the end of the year. so if you have the choice i highly suggest you get the ps3 version.

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Arent all RPGs so far better selling on xbox 360 (beside FF13 of course) ?

So why not this one ?

Probably because it's the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, so it has roots and familiarity within the PS3 userbase much like FF13. Plus From Software is huge in Japan and they aren't selling the 360 version there. Also the 360 version apparently has some framerate issues so those who have the option would probably get the PS3 version.

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#54 Oil_Rope_Bombs
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Since when was Dark Souls ever exclusive?sakura_Ex
It's the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, which was a PS3 exclusive. This game is also exclusive to the PS3 in Japan. @TC I don't think anyone said this was a bad thing. Besides, we can see those 360 guys die over and over again due to no experience with Demon's Souls :P I just wish there was cross platform play because we could own those 360 dark souls noobs! ... Okay, I'm sounding like an elitist now >_>
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#55 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="lostfan132"]

of course its a good thing, but a potential issue i see is that the 360 community just doesn't seem like the type that will buy too many copies of this kind of game. shooters yes, but hardcore hard as hell jrpg, i have my doubts. and for a game that features a very important online aspect, i get the feeling that the 360 servers will be quite dead by the end of the year. so if you have the choice i highly suggest you get the ps3 version.

hypoty

Arent all RPGs so far better selling on xbox 360 (beside FF13 of course) ?

So why not this one ?

Probably because it's the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, so it has roots and familiarity within the PS3 userbase much like FF13. Plus From Software is huge in Japan and they aren't selling the 360 version there. Also the 360 version apparently has some framerate issues so those who have the option would probably get the PS3 version.

Apparently 360 version is exactly same as PS3 and both have the exact same framerate issues, that is from the many posts i read in GAF

Also it is a new IP, so anything goes, will probably sell best on PS3 indeed, but wont be far behind on 360

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#56 hypoty
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[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Arent all RPGs so far better selling on xbox 360 (beside FF13 of course) ?

So why not this one ?

loosingENDS

Probably because it's the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, so it has roots and familiarity within the PS3 userbase much like FF13. Plus From Software is huge in Japan and they aren't selling the 360 version there. Also the 360 version apparently has some framerate issues so those who have the option would probably get the PS3 version.

Apparently 360 version is exactly same as PS3 and both have the exact same framerate issues, that is from the many posts i read in GAF

Also it is a new IP, so anything goes, will probably sell best on PS3 indeed, but wont be far behind on 360

I read an article at Kotaku that mentioned some "framerate hitches" at the start for the 360 version. There has to be a difference somewhere and I assumed that was it. I agree about the sales.

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#57 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Probably because it's the spiritual successor to Demon's Souls, so it has roots and familiarity within the PS3 userbase much like FF13. Plus From Software is huge in Japan and they aren't selling the 360 version there. Also the 360 version apparently has some framerate issues so those who have the option would probably get the PS3 version.

hypoty

Apparently 360 version is exactly same as PS3 and both have the exact same framerate issues, that is from the many posts i read in GAF

Also it is a new IP, so anything goes, will probably sell best on PS3 indeed, but wont be far behind on 360

I read an article at Kotaku that mentioned some "framerate hitches" at the start for the 360 version. There has to be a difference somewhere and I assumed that was it. I agree about the sales.

Most people in GAF have the PS3 version and are reporting frame rate problems too, i suppose both versions have them

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I think its great that even 360 owners will have the chance to enjoy the greatness of Dark Souls, but on the other hand, I expecet it will not sell much copies on 360, because:

1) people who like good games with deep gameplay already have PS3.

2) its not a shooter.

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#59 loosingENDS
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I think its great that even 360 owners will have the chance to enjoy the greatness of Dark Souls, but on the other hand, I expecet it will not sell much copies on 360, because:

1) people who like good games with deep gameplay already have PS3.

2) its not a shooter.

BlbecekBobecek

1) Xbox 360 has far more games with deep gameplay than PS3 though, like Mass Effect 1, Lost Odyssey etc

2) RPGs sell far better on xbox 360 than PS3 (beside FF13 of course), in fact some sell double or triple like Fallout, Oblivion and Mass Effect 2

And Fable 2-3 have sold more than 7 million copies combined !!!! So much for 360 selling only shooters

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Devs are already taking note, take a look at Capcom's Dragon Dogma, The Witcher 2, Kingdom of Amaleur, etc..
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#61 campzor
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lol no... it'd have to sell like 10+ million to influence anyone cod is king
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#63 The_Djoker
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[QUOTE="campzor"]lol no... it'd have to sell like 10+ million to influence anyone cod is king

Cod has to sell 7-8 mil+ because of ridiculous budget and advertising campaigns. DS's budget is about 1/50th of COD so it will make profit by selling abotu 1 million.
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#64 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="CTR360"]iam happy dark souls coming on xbox 360 The_Djoker
Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.
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I think its great that even 360 owners will have the chance to enjoy the greatness of Dark Souls, but on the other hand, I expecet it will not sell much copies on 360, because:

1) people who like good games with deep gameplay already have PS3.

2) its not a shooter.

BlbecekBobecek
Deep games like bastardized versions of Ninja Gaiden and button mashers? Also PS3 has more exclusive shooters than 360. The best selling game on the PS3 is a shooter. The most active online game on the PS3 is a shooter. Try harder, really. If anything Demons souls was wasted on such a poor unskilled audience. From must be glad they can show their masterpiece to such a great fanbase.
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#66 The_Djoker
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="CTR360"]iam happy dark souls coming on xbox 360 kuraimen
Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.

It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.
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#67 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"] Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.

It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

Any proof for that. I remember a news about a SF4 tournament the best 360 players vs the best players in PS3 and it was won by a PS3 player
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#68 Bread_or_Decide
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I don't think it's going to sell well on the xbox. Also if you don't have LIVE you lose a huge portion of the experience.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.

It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

Any proof for that. I remember a news about a SF4 tournament the best 360 players vs the best players in PS3 and it was won by a PS3 player

what were they playing with? because it's almost impossible to play SF with a 360 standard controller at a high level.
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"] It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

I think its great that even 360 owners will have the chance to enjoy the greatness of Dark Souls, but on the other hand, I expecet it will not sell much copies on 360, because:

1) people who like good games with deep gameplay already have PS3.

2) its not a shooter.

The_Djoker
Deep games like bastardized versions of Ninja Gaiden and button mashers? Also PS3 has more exclusive shooters than 360. The best selling game on the PS3 is a shooter. The most active online game on the PS3 is a shooter. Try harder, really. If anything Demons souls was wasted on such a poor unskilled audience. From must be glad they can show their masterpiece to such a great fanbase.

Okay you've got to be kidding. Xbox player are MORE skilled? wtf?
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#71 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"] It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

Any proof for that. I remember a news about a SF4 tournament the best 360 players vs the best players in PS3 and it was won by a PS3 player

what were they playing with? because it's almost impossible to play SF with a 360 standard controller at a high level.

Tournaments are always played using arcades.
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.kuraimen
It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

Any proof for that. I remember a news about a SF4 tournament the best 360 players vs the best players in PS3 and it was won by a PS3 player

*laughs* I love how you bring up a fighter but hey lets make it fair put the best joystick user on 360 againest the best joystick user on ps3...Or how about you look at the big picture if we factor in all game types xbox live players are more skilled.
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#73 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"] It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox. WilliamRLBaker
Any proof for that. I remember a news about a SF4 tournament the best 360 players vs the best players in PS3 and it was won by a PS3 player

*laughs* I love how you bring up a fighter but hey lets make it fair put the best joystick user on 360 againest the best joystick user on ps3...Or how about you look at the big picture if we factor in all game types xbox live players are more skilled.

Again, any proof or source for that?
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#75 loosingENDS
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I don't think it's going to sell well on the xbox. Also if you don't have LIVE you lose a huge portion of the experience. Bread_or_Decide

Why though ?

All RPGs sell far better on 360 than PS3 (beside FF13)

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#76 Strutten
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="CTR360"]iam happy dark souls coming on xbox 360 kuraimen
Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.

I never understood that statement, i have yet to play with screaming kids , racists etc etc.. and ive been on live since launch.. on the other hand on psn i experienced the opposite how is that ?, and btw how is it a problem anyway, just mute or dont use mic at all cant see the problem really.. there is whiners and flamers across all platforms.. Very weak that " you say its more infested on live",, seriously get a grip

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#78 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Moooooo!!!!!!

Seriously though, wth is a cow?

mysticstryk

A PS3 fanboy.

So what is an xbox fanboy? And what does a cow have to do with the ps3?

Xbox fanboy = lemming

Wii fanboy = sheep

PC fanboy = hermit

Those are common system wars terms.

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#79 clone01
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Again, any proof or source for that?kuraimen
Any proof to your statement that Live is "more infested with kids" than PSN?
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#80 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="CTR360"]iam happy dark souls coming on xbox 360 The_Djoker
Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Not sure if serious... both consoles have jerks in their communities and both consoles have equally skilled players, as far as I'm concerned.

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#81 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Again, any proof or source for that?clone01
Any proof to your statement that Live is "more infested with kids" than PSN?

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/02/19/how-the-wii-ps3-and-xbox-360-appeal-to-different-demographics/ Quote Nintendo Wii The Wii, which is by far the bestselling home console of this generation, appeals mainly to males aged between six and 11, and females aged between 25 and 34. Women over the age of 35 use the Wii much more than either the PS3 or Xbox 360. Which would kind of explain how Wii Fit continues to top the all-format charts month after month. Microsoft Xbox 360 The Xbox 360, currently sitting in a very comfortable second place in terms of sales, appeals mainly to males aged between 12 and 17, and females aged between 25 and 34. This seems like a bizarre mix but the younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live. Sony PS3 The PS3 generally seems to appeal to the older generation, with no young kids anywhere in the mix. This could just be because the Sony machine is so damn expensive that kids are still saving up their pocket money for one. Both males and females saw the largest usage amongst the 18 to 24 age range. This is considered the hardcore range where gamers play more games and for longer than any other age range.
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#82 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Again, any proof or source for that?kuraimen
Any proof to your statement that Live is "more infested with kids" than PSN?

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/02/19/how-the-wii-ps3-and-xbox-360-appeal-to-different-demographics/ Quote Nintendo Wii The Wii, which is by far the bestselling home console of this generation, appeals mainly to males aged between six and 11, and females aged between 25 and 34. Women over the age of 35 use the Wii much more than either the PS3 or Xbox 360. Which would kind of explain how Wii Fit continues to top the all-format charts month after month. Microsoft Xbox 360 The Xbox 360, currently sitting in a very comfortable second place in terms of sales, appeals mainly to males aged between 12 and 17, and females aged between 25 and 34. This seems like a bizarre mix but the younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live. Sony PS3 The PS3 generally seems to appeal to the older generation, with no young kids anywhere in the mix. This could just be because the Sony machine is so damn expensive that kids are still saving up their pocket money for one. Both males and females saw the largest usage amongst the 18 to 24 age range. This is considered the hardcore range where gamers play more games and for longer than any other age range.

"This seems like a bizarre mix but the younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live." "Could" is not the statement of fact. Not to mention your linking to a blog. Oh, and 18 to 24 is not the "older" generation. The only argument you could possibly use at this point is that the 360 comes packed with a headset, so you're more likely to hear said kids.
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#83 brennanhuff
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I have owned a PS3 since 2008 and I haven't bought Demon Souls but was very interested in Dark Souls on the 360 but once I heard they drop party chat from the game, no way in hell will I pay for that. Not happening.

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#84 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="clone01"] Any proof to your statement that Live is "more infested with kids" than PSN?clone01
http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/02/19/how-the-wii-ps3-and-xbox-360-appeal-to-different-demographics/ Quote Nintendo Wii The Wii, which is by far the bestselling home console of this generation, appeals mainly to males aged between six and 11, and females aged between 25 and 34. Women over the age of 35 use the Wii much more than either the PS3 or Xbox 360. Which would kind of explain how Wii Fit continues to top the all-format charts month after month. Microsoft Xbox 360 The Xbox 360, currently sitting in a very comfortable second place in terms of sales, appeals mainly to males aged between 12 and 17, and females aged between 25 and 34. This seems like a bizarre mix but the younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live. Sony PS3 The PS3 generally seems to appeal to the older generation, with no young kids anywhere in the mix. This could just be because the Sony machine is so damn expensive that kids are still saving up their pocket money for one. Both males and females saw the largest usage amongst the 18 to 24 age range. This is considered the hardcore range where gamers play more games and for longer than any other age range.

"This seems like a bizarre mix but the younger age range for boys could explain the level of petty whining and douchebaggery on display over Xbox Live." "Could" is not the statement of fact. Not to mention your linking to a blog. Oh, and 18 to 24 is not the "older" generation. The only argument you could possibly use at this point is that the 360 comes packed with a headset, so you're more likely to hear said kids.

It is a blog that uses another source that used tracking usage data. It is not like the blog is the source. It could explain that but it is a fact that 360 users are on a younger demographic than PS3 users.
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#85 Dawq902
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I'm not interested in Dark Souls. I bought Demon Souls and the game just frustrated me way to much so I never got to far. I hate the concept of "you die you start over"

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#86 samanthademeste
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This is just another stupid cows vs lemmings war. Neither group of fanboy is better then the other.

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#87 donalbane
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I'm happy for the developer, FromSoftware, and I want them to make as much money as possible, so it's very good that it will be on another platform. Let's not forget it's the devs, not the hardware manufacturers, that we want to succeed. The hardware is just a means to an end.
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#88 PAL360
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More ppl being able to play great games is allways a good thing. Just hope Dark Souls sells better on 360 than Mass Effect 2 sold on PS3!

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#89 Johnny_Rock
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Who said it wasn't a good thing? More platforms = more sales.

Dark Souls is going to be an amazing game... I'm almost expecting Gamespot to give it a 9.5.

Vari3ty

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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]You have no idea how badly I want this game to come to PC, this would be a cult hit there. johnlennon28
yea Im surprised from software didnt make a pc version, from what Ive known about pc gamers, this kind of game is one of those games that they dig

Disagree its really not. Like it or not its more of a twitch game. The Keyboard and mouse will not translate to well. Yes you can get a game pad but its a console game simple as really.
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#91 clone01
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It is a blog that uses another source that used tracking usage data. It is not like the blog is the source. It could explain that but it is a fact that 360 users are on a younger demographic than PS3 users.kuraimen
It doesn't link to anything about a Nielson report. It links to an ad week site. And now women age 25 to 34 are little kids? That's what the "study" said was one of the chief demographics for the 360. You haven't proven anything.
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#92 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"] Sony dropped the ball on Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. They don't deserve to have it exclusive, they apparently didn't realize what a jewel it was and thought it would fail. Guess it didn't figure into their "gritty shooter" approach. They should have pushed it anyways. Demon's Souls is such a cooler name than "Dark Souls", it's a pity they couldn't use it again.Deathtransit

Do you have a link or something to verify what you just wrote?...

"Demon Souls" was not a first party game, it was a third party game published by Atlus, and the game itself was co-developed by Sony Japan Studios

It was published by Sony in the east, apparently Sony did not have enough faith for the game in the Wesf, so they let Atlus distribute it.

When you think about it even Atlus didn't think the West would like it(i think or may have been Sony who said it). I think it was a shock to both parties that it was in high demand abroad.
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#93 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] It is a blog that uses another source that used tracking usage data. It is not like the blog is the source. It could explain that but it is a fact that 360 users are on a younger demographic than PS3 users.clone01
It doesn't link to anything about a Nielson report. It links to an ad week site. And now women age 25 to 34 are little kids? That's what the "study" said was one of the chief demographics for the 360. You haven't proven anything.

You said to provide proof that there are more kids in 360 I just did that by pointing to an analysis that says that the biggest male demographic on the 360 are kids in comparison to the PS3 who are not. You ignoring that to fit your view won't change the fact that I provided proof for your challenge.
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#94 johnlennon28
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I have owned a PS3 since 2008 and I haven't bought Demon Souls but was very interested in Dark Souls on the 360 but once I heard they drop party chat from the game, no way in hell will I pay for that. Not happening.

brennanhuff
voice chat would only ruin the game's experience because of its atmosphere
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#95 Funconsole
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Games like Dark Souls don't sell well in the 360. Not enough guns.clone01
Why did Forza 3 sell so well?

Because, when you put in a special code, all the cars get guns and they have to destroy each other :P
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#96 Deathtransit
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@JohnF, that's true, Atlus didn't think it would be a hit like it was either, but at least they gave it a chance unlike Sony. I'm just disappointed someone in Sony couldn't see it was a good game and wouldn't give it a shot just based on merit.
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#97 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="The_Djoker"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Djoker"] Same here. Can't stand the PS3 community. When i was destroying people on Demons you would have little ids send me messages about how i cheated etc.. Kids on that system should stick to mashing buttons on God of War not playing Hard games like DS. At least on the 360 i'l have skilful players to play against.

Lol, Live is more kid infested than PSN.

It has more younger children yes because they prefer to play on a superior console. But the actual players on average are more skilled on Xbox.

There is absolutely no way to know which console has a higher "average" skills lvl