David Jaffe: Is this biased journalism? Or is it just me?

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#1 HAZE-Unit
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David Jaffe is questioning journalism in his latest blog and here is the video link.

http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/2009/02/is-this-biased-journalism-or-is-it-just.html

Here is the email in question:

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"David,

I'm working on a story for MSNBC examining the life-to-date chronology of the PS3. As a respected PlayStation developer, would you be willing to answer a few questions? In the interest you are, here goes:

In hindsight, noting the PS3's lukewarm reception and relatively high cost, a lot of people wonder what Sony was thinking when developing the PS3. So... what were they thinking?

It's been said that Ken Kutaragi and Howard Stinger dictated what technology the PS3 should include instead of doing proper research to what the consumer wanted while paying little mind to price. As a development partner, did you feel that was the case? Why/why not?

It seems that releasing a feature-rich console for $600, now $400, was a crippling move for Sony, especially given the recent economic downturn. Would you agree? Why/why not?

Did you ever perceive low morale within the company once the $600 price was announced in 2006? Can you elaborate?
Consumers appear indifferent to Blu-ray technology. Do you feel Sony overvalued Blu-ray, after DVD helped the PS2 become such a huge success?

It seems the PS3 has been cobbled together since its release: feature-cutting to help cut costs, patched with controller rumble, patched with Home, patched with trophy achievements -- like the console never had a specific plan. During your tenure, did you feel the powers that be at Sony had a grip on what exactly would make the PS3 a success? Why/why not?
What has been your biggest concern as a PS3 developer?

Was the Wall Street Journal right: has hope faded for PS3 as the "comeback player"?

Kindly,

Mystery Journalist"


So you tell me...am I just being ultra sensitive? If so, I apologize to the journalist in question. To be fair to him, he says he's looking at the PS life to date (and not focusing on upcoming things that could swing the console's fortunes ((ala KILLZONE 2, GOW 3, UNCHARTED 2, MLB 09, potential price drop,etc)) )....BUT even so, he seems to ignore ANY of the success it has had up till this point or any of the missteps the 360 has made...but again, I could be wrong...

Take it easy ya'll-

David.

and the respond david jaffe

I think it is definitely biased and provoking for just getting some honest answers.

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#2 GTR_FX
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its pretty obvious that the media is biased against the ps3, even up till now
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#3 BioShockOwnz
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Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.
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#4 fortehlose
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damn guys, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how it works.

the wall street journal reported that the PS3 is doing bad because the PS3 IS DOING BAD

has nothing to do with bias

Think for the past 10 years when the PS1 and PS2 were doing great, where there any articles of how bad they were? NO!

The only reason why you perceive it as biased is because you yourself is biased toward the PS3, thus anything seen as negative is therefore bias.

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#5 theSADmafioso
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Bad news sells and I'm surprised the media hasn't been more on Sony's case. I mean in media terms what is better than last gen winner falling from grace and being last sales-wise?

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#6 heretrix
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I think he, like many a Sony fanboy on the internet is being overly sensitive. They were valid questions. And none of those games listed is going to do anything to reverse the PS3's misfortunes. It's beyond the point of a few games making the difference, and if that what Jaffe believes, he's far less smarter than I gave him credit for.
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#7 ogvampire
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was he expecting happy rainbow questions? :|

seriously, some journalists ask hard questions. deal with it...

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#8 tylergamereview
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Bad news sells and I'm surprised the media hasn't been more on Sony's case. I mean in media terms what is better than last gen winner falling from grace and being last sales-wise?

theSADmafioso

Well it's probably because these are video games. They are not exactly mainstream yet, and we are in the middle of a war and the economy is doing pretty bad. A small form of entertainment is not going to catch the media's attention with so much going on in the world.

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#9 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Lol. It's not Jaffe. Those questions basically amount to "Why does Sony and the PS3 suck so much? How low is their moral right now knowing that they are dead?"

Those aren't legitimate questions from someone claiming to be a journalist...those are the questions of someone looking for specific answer for a specific story. In this case the story is clearly the death of the PS3 and downfall of Sony.

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I think the journalist has some very valid questions. I personally would like to hear Jaffe's answers rather than him avoiding the questions. On the other hand, the journalist did ignore some of the PS3 successes, such as free and evolving online and some quality exclusives. Overall I would say the journalist is being a bit biased by only focusing on the PS3 negative aspects.
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How is Jaffe supposed to respond to "what were they thinking" ? And why is everything in the ps3's "chronology" negative ? Is this just from a MSNBC's take form a business angle ? If so how do you respond to that if you are a game developer and a mutiplatform gamer that enjoys his ps3 and develops on it ?

The ps3 is a a failure David Jaffe. Could you please give us a quote we can use.

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How is Jaffe supposed to respond to "what were they thinking" ? And why is everything in the ps3's "chronology" negative ? Is this just from a MSNBC's take form a business angle ? If so how do you respond to that if you are a game developer and a mutiplatform gamer that enjoys his ps3 and develops on it ?

The ps3 is a a failure David Jaffe. Could you please give us a quote we can use.

Nike_Air

compared to their domination of the last 2 gens, YES, everything in the ps3 chronology is a technical failure.

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Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.BioShockOwnz
What's a good non-biased channel I can my info from?
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.Hoobinator
What's a good non-biased channel I can my info from?

BBC of course
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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.killerfist
What's a good non-biased channel I can my info from?

BBC of course

but they have accents... i can barely understand their english:P

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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

How is Jaffe supposed to respond to "what were they thinking" ? And why is everything in the ps3's "chronology" negative ? Is this just from a MSNBC's take form a business angle ? If so how do you respond to that if you are a game developer and a mutiplatform gamer that enjoys his ps3 and develops on it ?

The ps3 is a a failure David Jaffe. Could you please give us a quote we can use.

ogvampire

compared to their domination of the last 2 gens, YES, everything in the ps3 chronology is a technical failure.

He doesn't think it is a failure , and doesn't consider the gamecube a failure either. So where is he supposed to go from there ?

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#17 Hoobinator
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BBC of coursekillerfist

It was actually a rhetorical question.

British propaganda was always considered the best in the world. Even the Germans always admired it, The greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince the world he does not exist, and the greatest trick the worlds new media ever played was to convince the world they were fair and balanced.

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Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.BioShockOwnz
well its alot better than fox news and other conservative views on video games like Jack Thompson :|
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.Hoobinator
What's a good non-biased channel I can my info from?

None of them. They're all organs of the M$ corporatocracy.
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

How is Jaffe supposed to respond to "what were they thinking" ? And why is everything in the ps3's "chronology" negative ? Is this just from a MSNBC's take form a business angle ? If so how do you respond to that if you are a game developer and a mutiplatform gamer that enjoys his ps3 and develops on it ?

The ps3 is a a failure David Jaffe. Could you please give us a quote we can use.

Nike_Air

compared to their domination of the last 2 gens, YES, everything in the ps3 chronology is a technical failure.

He doesn't think it is a failure , and doesn't consider the gamecube a failure either. So where is he supposed to go from there ?

well, the GC was making money from the get-go... the ps3, quite the opposite.

talking about biased journalism... isnt he the one that said GoW3 was gonna be the best looking game, its gonna blow peoples socks off? isnt that kinda biased?

so its ok for them to report his biased view, but not ok for them to report their own?

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Those questions were obviously loaded, they basically what do you have to say about the ps3 being a complete utter failure.It didn't ask for any positive aspects about the ps3
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Lol, those questions are ridiculous...
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Those questions were obviously loaded, they basically what do you have to say about the ps3 being a complete utter failure.It didn't ask for any positive aspects about the ps3EPaul

just about every press release from sony already does that... how about something to balance that?

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LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.GTR_FX
well its alot better than fox news and other conservative views on video games like Jack Thompson :|

Well, I guess it's a good thing I'm a libertarian.:)

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[QUOTE="fortehlose"]

damn guys, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how it works.

the wall street journal reported that the PS3 is doing bad because the PS3 IS DOING BAD

has nothing to do with bias

Think for the past 10 years when the PS1 and PS2 were doing great, where there any articles of how bad they were? NO!

The only reason why you perceive it as biased is because you yourself is biased toward the PS3, thus anything seen as negative is therefore bias.

This = /thread :D.
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[QUOTE="EPaul"]Those questions were obviously loaded, they basically what do you have to say about the ps3 being a complete utter failure.It didn't ask for any positive aspects about the ps3ogvampire

just about every press release from sony already does that... how about something to balance that?

Why would a press release from sony highlight negative aspects about the ps3 that be a bad business decision. This journalist said he wanted to a chronological timeline for the ps3. Why didnt ask about how the ps3 helped blu-ray win the format wars or how the ps3 is selling as much as the 360 with a higher price point. That's why this questions are biased because if they were unbiased there have questions about the positive and negatives about the ps3

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#28 PoppaGamer
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The questions could have been written by handfuls of fanboys here in SW. I most certainly think the writer was coming from a skewed stand and framed the questions with that same mindset. This is what kills me about the console war. Just like any, there is so much misinformation passed around that people start to believe it. And it starts with the fanboys in the media.
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LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.heretrix
generalize much?
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LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.heretrix

No ofcourse not, there are some good questions from the email and there are biased questions and overall the questions shows a negative mindset from the journalism like it is a complete failure which is not.

I know that bad news sells more than good news but overblown bs like the journalism is speculating and asking is wrong and I would defend the 360 the same as the PS3 if the same situation occurs.

And there are wrong questions, I mean nobody can question the Blu-Ray right now because it won the format war, tell me one negative reason right now to bash blu-ray?

and thats only one question from the report.

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="EPaul"]Those questions were obviously loaded, they basically what do you have to say about the ps3 being a complete utter failure.It didn't ask for any positive aspects about the ps3EPaul

just about every press release from sony already does that... how about something to balance that?

Why would a press release from sony highlight negative aspects about the ps3 that be a bad business decision. This journalist said he wanted to a chronological timeline for the ps3. Why didnt ask about how the ps3 helped blu-ray win the format wars or how the ps3 is selling as much as the 360 with a higher price point. That's why this questions are biased because if they were unbiased there have questions about the positive and negatives about the ps3

all that information is already given out by sony in their press releases. you know what is not given out by sony? the answer to this 'journalist's' questions.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.HAZE-Unit

No ofcourse not, there are some good questions from the email and there are biased questions and overall the questions shows a negative mindset from the journalism like it is a complete failure which is not.

I know that bad news sells more than good news but overblown bs like the journalism is speculating and asking is wrong and I would defend the 360 the same as the PS3 if the same situation occurs.

And there are wrong questions, I mean nobody can question the Blu-Ray right now because it won the format war, tell me one negative reason right now to bash blu-ray?

and thats only one question from the report.

Here's the thing, No where in those questions is the words "complete failure" ever mentioned. Sure, the article has a negative slant, but that's what happens when the piece is about something negative. It's basically "Why is the PS3 in last place?" Of course there are people who will try to tell you different, really, we all know that's nonsense. It's some tough questions and Jaffe is probably not the best person to ask, but I think Jaffe will talk to anybody and is good for a quote.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.PoppaGamer
generalize much?

Oh please. You of all people are the perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Hey, did Sony fix your PS3 yet? I heard you were having some difficulty getting that handled.

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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="heretrix"]LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.heretrix

generalize much?

Oh please. You of all people are the perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Hey, did Sony fix your PS3 yet? I heard you were having some difficulty getting that handled.

YOU are generalizing. Nothing in what I have done or do here would dictate that I would not see the bias if it were the other way around. You haven't a clue about me or my thoughts. So don't act as if you do. And then I love the comment on my PS3. It broke. Whats your point?
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I don't care what Jaffe says or does, but that line of questioning is professional trolling...
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism. there was nothing wrong with any of those questions. In fact somebody within Sony should have been asking themselves those very things. They might be doing better than they are now.heretrix

No ofcourse not, there are some good questions from the email and there are biased questions and overall the questions shows a negative mindset from the journalism like it is a complete failure which is not.

I know that bad news sells more than good news but overblown bs like the journalism is speculating and asking is wrong and I would defend the 360 the same as the PS3 if the same situation occurs.

And there are wrong questions, I mean nobody can question the Blu-Ray right now because it won the format war, tell me one negative reason right now to bash blu-ray?

and thats only one question from the report.

Here's the thing, No where in those questions is the words "complete failure" ever mentioned. Sure, the article has a negative slant, but that's what happens when the piece is about something negative. It's basically "Why is the PS3 in last place?" Of course there are people who will try to tell you different, really, we all know that's nonsense. It's some tough questions and Jaffe is probably not the best person to ask, but I think Jaffe will talk to anybody and is good for a quote.

You know what, on a second thought, maybe Jaffe wanted to point fingers and act like he is the victim of bias journalism?
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

compared to their domination of the last 2 gens, YES, everything in the ps3 chronology is a technical failure.

ogvampire

He doesn't think it is a failure , and doesn't consider the gamecube a failure either. So where is he supposed to go from there ?

well, the GC was making money from the get-go... the ps3, quite the opposite.

talking about biased journalism... isnt he the one that said GoW3 was gonna be the best looking game, its gonna blow peoples socks off? isnt that kinda biased?

so its ok for them to report his biased view, but not ok for them to report their own?

All he sees is the system that he has in front of him and what he can play on it and what it can do from his standpoint. And as a developer , he probably knows around how many have sold already and knows more people are going to buy it in the future because they haven't stopped yet and more content is on the way as well as pricecuts. Sony is still going to do what they do. He is hoping that they can make a fun game that sells well to the ps3's audience that he is targeting. (with the help of Sony's marketing/support). A system being 1st , 2nd , or 3rd in marketshare isn't going to make him see failures that aren't really there. Another companies' financials is really out of his hands , he has no control over those things so why comment on them like he knows exactly what they were thinking?

He has already previously stated that he probably would have taken out the blu-ray drive so it would cost less to produce a ps3 and the price could have been a little cheaper from the outset so more poeple could pick one up quicker and potentially buy his Calling All Cars game ...... so what else is there for him to say really at this point ?

But if he's going to have that opnion attached to some ps3 has failed nonsense chronolgy artcile that he doesn't really believe in like he is agreeing with him , then I would be asking questions too.

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Jaffe sounds like a bitter fanboy, the "biased" email was more thought out and at least showed the right is educated, all i got from jaffe's response was ":cry:"
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

No ofcourse not, there are some good questions from the email and there are biased questions and overall the questions shows a negative mindset from the journalism like it is a complete failure which is not.

I know that bad news sells more than good news but overblown bs like the journalism is speculating and asking is wrong and I would defend the 360 the same as the PS3 if the same situation occurs.

And there are wrong questions, I mean nobody can question the Blu-Ray right now because it won the format war, tell me one negative reason right now to bash blu-ray?

and thats only one question from the report.

HAZE-Unit
Here's the thing, No where in those questions is the words "complete failure" ever mentioned. Sure, the article has a negative slant, but that's what happens when the piece is about something negative. It's basically "Why is the PS3 in last place?" Of course there are people who will try to tell you different, really, we all know that's nonsense. It's some tough questions and Jaffe is probably not the best person to ask, but I think Jaffe will talk to anybody and is good for a quote.

You know what, on a second thought, maybe Jaffe wanted to point fingers and act like he is the victim of bias journalism?

Jaffe is a bit of a attention seeker. I wouldn't put it past him.
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#40 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]He doesn't think it is a failure , and doesn't consider the gamecube a failure either. So where is he supposed to go from there ?

Nike_Air

well, the GC was making money from the get-go... the ps3, quite the opposite.

talking about biased journalism... isnt he the one that said GoW3 was gonna be the best looking game, its gonna blow peoples socks off? isnt that kinda biased?

so its ok for them to report his biased view, but not ok for them to report their own?

All he sees is the system that he has in front of him and what he can play on it and what it can do from his standpoint. And as a developer , he probably knows around how many have sold already and knows more people are going to buy it in the future because they haven't stopped yet and more content is on the way as well as pricecuts. Sony is still going to do what they do. He is hoping that they can make a fun game that sells well to the ps3's audience that he is targeting. (with the help of Sony's marketing/support). A system being 1st , 2nd , or 3rd in marketshare isn't going to make him see failures that aren't really there. Another companies' financials is really out of his hands , he has no control over those things so why comment on them like he knows exactly what they were thinking?

He has already previously stated that he probably would have taken out the blu-ray drive so it would cost less to produce a ps3 and the price could have been a little cheaper from the outset so more poeple could pick one up quicker and potentially buy his Calling All Cars game ...... so what else is there for him to say really at this point ?

But if he's going to have that opnion attached to some ps3 has failed nonsense chronolgy artcile that he doesn't really believe in like he is agreeing with him , then I would be asking questions too.

you know he can just deny those things and say that he wasnt informed of sony's plan... instead of crying about it

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#41 rolo107
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Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.BioShockOwnz
David Jaffe is not writing anything, he was asked for feedback to help write an article... Lack of comprehension? Either on your part or mine, I guess. Regardless, I think David Jaffe is over-reacting, definitely. The article is about the PS3, not as a comparison to the 360, along with the other issues of it not focusing on the good things the PS3 has done; well it's your duty David, to mention those things in your response obviously.
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#42 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] generalize much?PoppaGamer

Oh please. You of all people are the perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Hey, did Sony fix your PS3 yet? I heard you were having some difficulty getting that handled.

YOU are generalizing. Nothing in what I have done or do here would dictate that I would not see the bias if it were the other way around. You haven't a clue about me or my thoughts. So don't act as if you do. And then I love the comment on my PS3. It broke. Whats your point?

How am I generalizing? It seems like you don't fully understand the term. How is what I said incorrect?

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#43 PoppaGamer
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How am I generalizing? It seems like you don't fully understand the term. How is what I said incorrect? heretrix

Generalize: draw from specific cases for more general cases, speak or write in generalities Wiki

Example:

LOL. If those questions would have been directed towards M$, the very same people in this thread complaining about those questions would have been praising the report for doing tough journalism.heretrix

/ownage

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#44 heretrix
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/ownage

PoppaGamer
Nice. You got me.
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I think he, like many a Sony fanboy on the internet is being overly sensitive. They were valid questions. And none of those games listed is going to do anything to reverse the PS3's misfortunes. It's beyond the point of a few games making the difference, and if that what Jaffe believes, he's far less smarter than I gave him credit for.heretrix
I'd love to make a bet with you, any type of bet you'd like. I bet you that the day the last PS3 is sold retail, it will have a larger install base worldwide than the 360. It's really not THAT far behind worldwide. Add to that the PS3 (like the PS2) will not be abandoned when the next gen consoles come out AND that eventually it WILL come down to a cheap price (as well as the fact the PS3 is a year behind) and I see the PS3 having a larger install base when it's all said and done. The PS3 has lots of great games now and will have even more this year. Eventually gamers will purchase the system for these games even if it's two or three years down the road when the PS3 is 150 to 200 bucks....or even lower.
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#46 heretrix
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I'd love to make a bet with you, any type of bet you'd like. I bet you that the day the last PS3 is sold retail, it will have a larger install base worldwide than the 360. It's really not THAT far behind worldwide. Add to that the PS3 (like the PS2) will not be abandoned when the next gen consoles come out AND that eventually it WILL come down to a cheap price (as well as the fact the PS3 is a year behind) and I see the PS3 having a larger install base when it's all said and done. The PS3 has lots of great games now and will have even more this year. Eventually gamers will purchase the system for these games even if it's two or three years down the road when the PS3 is 150 to 200 bucks....or even lower. Xalaten

That would be an especially silly bet to make as I, by the end of this gen, would not give two craps about any of this. I'm finding a hard enough time being serious about it now.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]I think he, like many a Sony fanboy on the internet is being overly sensitive. They were valid questions. And none of those games listed is going to do anything to reverse the PS3's misfortunes. It's beyond the point of a few games making the difference, and if that what Jaffe believes, he's far less smarter than I gave him credit for.Xalaten
I'd love to make a bet with you, any type of bet you'd like. I bet you that the day the last PS3 is sold retail, it will have a larger install base worldwide than the 360. It's really not THAT far behind worldwide. Add to that the PS3 (like the PS2) will not be abandoned when the next gen consoles come out AND that eventually it WILL come down to a cheap price (as well as the fact the PS3 is a year behind) and I see the PS3 having a larger install base when it's all said and done. The PS3 has lots of great games now and will have even more this year. Eventually gamers will purchase the system for these games even if it's two or three years down the road when the PS3 is 150 to 200 bucks....or even lower.

At it's current rate Sony will NOT continue to support the PS3 once the PS4 comes out. The ONLY reason the PS1/PS2 saw support was because of the enormous user base. The PS3 won't even be close to that when the time comes. If you ask me, continued support of the PS2 is partialy what held back the PS3s sales.
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#48 Avian005
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I believe it's just David Jaffe. The PS3 is reported doing bad because, well, it's doing BAD. Look at the PS1 and PS2. They did good/great at this point, and no one said they were doing bad.

Besides, didn't Jaffe say GOW3 has the best graphics so far, and they were going to blow our socks off?

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[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Jaffe writing something for the most liberal biased news station. I'm not surprised. Not only is it pure hypocrisy, but he fits in well at MSNBC.Cherokee_Jack
What's a good non-biased channel I can my info from?

None of them. They're all organs of the M$ corporatocracy.

I lol'd :lol:
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#50 goblaa
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No, it's just the honest unfiltered truth. Sony f-ed up this gen.