David Jaffe Leaves SCEA, Going Indie!

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#1 gmastersexay
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/calling-all-venture-capitalists/jaffe-going-indie-out-of-scea-271540.php

From 1up:

Update: Just a little clarification for those slightly confused by this story. David Jaffe, at this very moment, is still employed by Sony. But he is very much in the process of setting up this new Utah-based studio with Scott Campbell. This new studio is said to be independent of Sony, so his role within the company is currently changing or disappearing. He will not be moving to Utah, though.

David Jaffe is no longer a part of the internal workings at Sony Computer Entertainment America. 1UP confirmed with multiple sources that Jaffe is currently working with Incognito Entertainment head Scott Campbell on the formation of a new studio to be based out of Utah.

When asked, SCEA would not comment on the so far unannounced change. "We have made no announcements regarding any change in David Jaffe's relationship with Sony Computer Entertainment," said a company spokesperson. Jaffe himself also has not yet responded to repeated requests for comment, since he started teasing the new studio on his personal blog.

What happens to Incognito? The company is flying high on the positive buzz surrounding online-centric Warhawk and is unlikely to be affected by the shift. Jaffe has traveled back and forth between Incognito and his San Diego headquarters over the development of a number of Incognito-based games, including the recent PlayStation Network release Calling All Cars. Jaffe is expected to continue the relationship.

We hope to hear more on this new studio shortly, so stay tuned.

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#2 Vyyral
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Yikes. Sony just lost a great developer then...

But I really wish he'd make more large scale games. I think his talent is going to be wasted if he continues on his small pick up and play game spree. Calling all Cars was fun, but it definitely was nowhere near as memorable as God of War.

edit: Nevermine, from that forum post by him it looks like he's staying with sony. I'm confused!

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#3 gmastersexay
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I just posted an update make sure you read brefore screaming "Sony just lost Jaffe".

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6813256&postcount=30

can promise you guys I am still part of SCEA...I just got a paycheck from them! I am still 100% a Sony employee and unless I got fired today and they didn't tell me, I'm still working for them. Also, I love working with the guys at Incog and hope to work with them for a long, long time but I sure as **** ain't moving to Utah...nice as it is, I don't think I could live there long term and I don't think the good people of Utah would want me to


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I can promise you guys I am still part of SCEA...I just got a paycheck from them! I am still 100% a Sony employee and unless I got fired today and they didn't tell me, I'm still working for them. Also, I love working with the guys at Incog and hope to work with them for a long, long time but I sure as **** ain't moving to Utah...nice as it is, I don't think I could live there long term and I don't think the good people of Utah would want me to


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From Neogaf.

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Hm. Cool. I'd like to see what he develops for other systems (IF he develops for other systems..).
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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3160509

Update: Just a little clarification for those slightly confused by this story. David Jaffe, at this very moment, is still employed by Sony. But he is very much in the process of setting up this new Utah-based studio with Scott Campbell. This new studio is said to be independent of Sony, so his role within the company is currently changing or disappearing. He will not be moving to Utah, though

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This is about the same as Kojima forming his independent studio while Konami does the publishing. It's better for the developers to leave the publishing logistics, PR, and focus on development.
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#9 Dualshockin
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Jaffe has hinted at going Indie for quite some time now,he has already stated numerous times he would rather develop small and affordable gaming software then long and very expensive epic titles. Either way,Sony still benefits.
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i saw this on g4 yesterday and uh hes just setting up an independent studio, probably to make more downloadable games cus he wont have the funds to make a god of war type game, which is exactly what he needs to do, cory took his thunder with god of war2 and david only wants to make small games. david needs to get to work on the next twisted metal asap

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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?
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David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.
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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?Elviathan
Did you read the first post and update?
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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?Elviathan

You didnt read what Jaffe himself posted on Neogaf did you?

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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?Elviathan

Ignorant of every post in this thread, eh?

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David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Godslay
Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?
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[QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Dualshockin
Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

HEARTLAND

he is an ultra liberal who was going to make a game in which america was occupied by china, and americans became terrorists

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Godslay

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

why don't you get off his balls, are you on them because sony signs his checks ? When calling all cars was released it was getting bad reviews, and he turned into a whiny little b****. The fact of the matter is he doesn't always have a midas touch, but he expects people to love all of his games because it was made by JAFFE. I'm openly stating my opinion does that make me garbage? You've already been shut down by me in another thread don't cause yourself anymore harm.

He's drunk most of the time. Can't say I agree with that way of creating, but imagination comes from drugs most of the time. His games are great and they were scored AAA. Get the hint or get out because you hate Sony.

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.mestizoman

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

HEARTLAND

he is an ultra liberal who was going to make a game in which america was occupied by china, and americans became terrorists

And how does that make his personality garbage?Because he was going to express his views on the war through a videogame,he is somehow a bad man? Are you forgetting that you can shoot and kill American soldiers in GTA?
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This is about the same as Kojima forming his independent studio while Konami does the publishing. It's better for the developers to leave the publishing logistics, PR, and focus on development.NobuoMusicMaker

I think this is different, since Koji Pro is still part of Konami

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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Godslay

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

why don't you get off his balls, are you on them because sony signs his checks ? When calling all cars was released it was getting bad reviews, and he turned into a whiny little *****. The fact of the matter is he doesn't always have a midas touch, but he expects people to love all of his games because it was made by JAFFE. I'm openly stating my opinion does that make me garbage? You've already been shut down by me in another thread don't cause yourself anymore harm.

So let me get this right: Jaffe's personality is garbage because he openly expressed his opinion about the reviews his game was getting through a blog?Am I missing something here? Where has he stated that he expects people to love all of his games because it is he,David Jaffe,who makes them?Show me a link to such a claim,otherwise it is unfair to put false statements in another mans mouth.
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[QUOTE="Godslay"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.NobuoMusicMaker

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

why don't you get off his balls, are you on them because sony signs his checks ? When calling all cars was released it was getting bad reviews, and he turned into a whiny little b****. The fact of the matter is he doesn't always have a midas touch, but he expects people to love all of his games because it was made by JAFFE. I'm openly stating my opinion does that make me garbage? You've already been shut down by me in another thread don't cause yourself anymore harm.

He's drunk most of the time. Can't say I agree with that way of creating, but imagination comes from drugs most of the time. His games are great and they were scored AAA. Get the hint or get out because you hate Sony.

Kinetica 7.0 Twisted Metal 7.1 Twisted Metal 2 6.4 Calling all cars 6.7 all awesome games... God of war and Twisted metal black were good. Also imagination doesn't just come from drugs. Tell that to your little brother/nephew/cousin/sister whatever. So 2 out of his last 6 games were AAA. I think you have a distorted sense of reality.

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Who cares, is he making a new game in which I can buy? No? Ok then /me
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[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Godslay

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

why don't you get off his balls, are you on them because sony signs his checks ? When calling all cars was released it was getting bad reviews, and he turned into a whiny little b****. The fact of the matter is he doesn't always have a midas touch, but he expects people to love all of his games because it was made by JAFFE. I'm openly stating my opinion does that make me garbage? You've already been shut down by me in another thread don't cause yourself anymore harm.

wow projecting much ? he was talking about the gamespot review, and he is definately not the only one to complain about their ratings ;) that whiny little b**** will do more in the next 5 years than you will be able to muster in 2 lifetimes. hes a great dev and he made the first 2 twisted metals which are the best, and he made god of war, his first downloadavble game gets a mediocre rating by gamespot and he has an opnion and all of a sudden you dont like his personality ? leave now before you cause yourself harm.
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Barlog has God of War , so everything is fine.

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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?Elviathan
wow the fanboy logic

he said he still will support sony 100%

multiplataform games that mean

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"][QUOTE="Godslay"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Godslay"]David Jaffe is garbage, in both personality, and his last game.Godslay

Tell me what makes Jaffe's personality garbage.Because he can openly state his opinion? Or is it because at the end of the day,it is Sony who are signing his cheque...?

why don't you get off his balls, are you on them because sony signs his checks ? When calling all cars was released it was getting bad reviews, and he turned into a whiny little b****. The fact of the matter is he doesn't always have a midas touch, but he expects people to love all of his games because it was made by JAFFE. I'm openly stating my opinion does that make me garbage? You've already been shut down by me in another thread don't cause yourself anymore harm.

He's drunk most of the time. Can't say I agree with that way of creating, but imagination comes from drugs most of the time. His games are great and they were scored AAA. Get the hint or get out because you hate Sony.

Kinetica 7.0 Twisted Metal 7.1 Twisted Metal 2 6.4 Calling all cars 6.7 all awesome games... God of war and Twisted metal black were good. Also imagination doesn't just come from drugs. Tell that to your little brother/nephew/cousin/sister whatever. So 2 out of his last 6 games were AAA. I think you have a distorted sense of reality.

who says hes drunk while making games ? hes drunk in his interviews a lot. are you saying 2 AAA games out of 6 is a bad thing ? one AAA game is good but a repeat is harder to do especially with a sequel
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who says hes drunk while making games ? hes drunk in his interviews a lot. are you saying 2 AAA games out of 6 is a bad thing ? one AAA game is good but a repeat is harder tyo do especially with a sequelStall0wn3d

Remember Gamespot Live with God of War and Jaffe was on? He said, "Can I drink this?" and he was allowed to drink his beer as long as he covered it up. lol great stuff.

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#30 Dualshockin
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Kinetica 7.0 Twisted Metal 7.1 Twisted Metal 2 6.4 Calling all cars 6.7 all awesome games... God of war and Twisted metal black were good. Also imagination doesn't just come from drugs. Tell that to your little brother/nephew/cousin/sister whatever. So 2 out of his last 6 games were AAA. I think you have a distorted sense of reality.Godslay
So now,every single game he's made has to score AAA for him to be considered a great developer?What about Bungie?Has every single Miyamoto game scored AAA? You must realize,your efforts of bringing down a great developer -simply because of his alliance with Sony- are not working.
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OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ?
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OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ? turgore
NO read first post also THERE SONY OWNED IP'S
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[QUOTE="turgore"]OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ? Tnasty11
NO read first post also THERE SONY OWNED IP'S

Damn ...I thought Jaffe owns the rights ...
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Update kokatu http://kotaku.com/gaming/calling-all-venture-capitalists/updated-jaffe-not-going-indie-not-out-of-scea-271540.php
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="turgore"]OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ? turgore
NO read first post also THERE SONY OWNED IP'S

Damn ...I thought Jaffe owns the rights ...

They are still sony IP's, But withouth Jaffe on the team I doubt a GOW 3 would be as good.

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Sony seems to have alienated everyone. Maybe they should just focus on Mars! LOL.
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You didnt read what Jaffe himself posted on Neogaf did you?

asdasd

It's time to stop the denial. He only said that at this very moment he's still working for Sony.

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[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="turgore"]OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ? Marka1700

NO read first post also THERE SONY OWNED IP'S

Damn ...I thought Jaffe owns the rights ...

They are still sony IP's, But withouth Jaffe on the team I doubt a GOW 3 would be as good.

he wasnt on god2 team and it was better than gow, =)
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[QUOTE="turgore"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="turgore"]OMG Twisted Metal and God of War can come ot the 360 then ? Marka1700

NO read first post also THERE SONY OWNED IP'S

Damn ...I thought Jaffe owns the rights ...

They are still sony IP's, But withouth Jaffe on the team I doubt a GOW 3 would be as good.

actually cory did pretty good, maybe even a little better in certain aspects, part 2 was every bit as good as 1.
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He never says that hes only with SCEA for the time being in fact he says he's 100% a Sony employee. Fact of the matter is GOW2 was better without him then with him. He's not going to do epic games like GOW anymore as he's stated so to many like gametrailers. He will make download games from now on, so if you were hoping for that epic GOW type game on the wii or 360 dream on, You'll be lucky to get calling all cars 2.
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Sony is losing exclusives and now they're losing developers? How much more can Sony take of this?Elviathan
Did you read the post?