Dawn of War: Soulstorm vs Halo Wars

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#1 aliblabla2007
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When you put up Halo Wars against Starcraft 2, you know what's going to happen. But just for kicks I'll put Halo Wars against a slightly less well-known RTS expansion pack coming out in 2008 known as Dawn of War: Soulstorm under the development of Relic. Of course, you know I love Relic even more than Blizzard, so I won't have to tell you which I pick.
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#2 Geek_Speak101
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I haven't played either of them
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#3 Frozzik
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Are either of these games out yet?

Dawn of war is a fantastic rts, one of my favourites. Personaaly i wish they would leave any expansions and just make a full blown sequal. CoH pushed the RTS genre way past what DoW can offer in terms of gameplay. Still a great game though.

As for halo wars i have yet to even see a screenshot or read a preview so cannot comment.

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#4 mjarantilla
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Dawn of War, easily.

Be serious. Halo Wars is an RTS on a console. There are plenty of game genres on the PC that can be adapted for the console, but the RTS genre is not one of them. At least, not a traditional RTS. Against any serious RTS game, Halo Wars is a casualized joke of a game.

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#5 twags82
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Dawn of War, easily.

Be serious. Halo Wars is an RTS on a console. There are plenty of game genres on the PC that can be adapted for the console, but the RTS genre is not one of them. At least, not a traditional RTS. Against any serious RTS game, Halo Wars is a casualized joke of a game.

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I have to agree about the traditional RTS not working on a console. It just can't. Unless the game allows FULL kb/m support, then yeah, it would work.

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#6 Bromz
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I would have prefered dow2 on Relic's Company of Heroes engine tbh. Balance is already out the window in Dark Crusade but tbh I don't care, the resource system and the actual gameplay is just damn fun. I'm cautious Halo Wars is being made by Ensemble, I'm really hoping its not just Age of Halo, particularly I hate the wood chopper resource system that Age of Empires uses.
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#7 whocares4peace
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Warhammer is awesome, I'll have to go with Soulstorm.
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#8 SpaceMatt
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I skipped Dark Crusade because the story was supposed to suck (and from what I've heard on the Relic boards many people believe it did), and as of now nothing I've seen for Soulstorm has impressed me.

I will be getting Halo Wars however.

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I haven't played either of themGeek_Speak101

Yeah, same here.

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#10 Ironfungus
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When you put up Halo Wars against Starcraft 2, you know what's going to happen. But just for kicks I'll put Halo Wars against a slightly less well-known RTS expansion pack coming out in 2008 known as Dawn of War: Soulstorm under the development of Relic. Of course, you know I love Relic even more than Blizzard, so I won't have to tell you which I pick.aliblabla2007

Dawn of War is a sheer masterpiece. Halo barely made it off as a first person shooter. There's no way in hell it's going to be able to compete in the world of real time strategies. Sorry, Bungie.

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#11 NeoStar9
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Didn't Halo originally start out as a RTS when production first started back when it was going to be a Apple/Mac OS game? I'm really curious to see what they do with Halo Wars to be honest.

How did C&C3 turn out on the Xbox 360 in terms of gameplay? If anything that seems like the example that would be looked at and hopefully improved upon.

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#12 X_Evo
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DoW by a miles
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#13 aliblabla2007
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Umm.... bump?
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#14 Danm_999
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I'd say Soulstorm.

Relic have proven themselves fantastically adept in the genre, while Ensemble have wilted since AoE 2. Plus there's the whole console handicap for Halo Wars.

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Soulstorm. However I do wish they'd move on to the COH engine. I prefer my infantry to not just stand in a square when there's perfectly good cover nearby.
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#16 x_boyfriend
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Soulstorm!

I just love how Relic makes DOW an even bigger chaotic bloodbath with every expansion! I think GS should screw themselves for giving CnC3 a higher score than DOW.

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#17 Lonelynight
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DoW is awesome
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#18 aliblabla2007
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DoW by a light yearX_Evo

Fixed.

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#19 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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I dunno. Dawn of War has gone downhill a bit since Dark Crusade. They overpowered the Necrons a little too much in that game.
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#20 Lonelynight
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I dunno. Dawn of War has gone downhill a bit since Dark Crusade. They overpowered the Necrons a little too much in that game.
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#21 go7400
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Dawn of War, easily.

Be serious. Halo Wars is an RTS on a console. There are plenty of game genres on the PC that can be adapted for the console, but the RTS genre is not one of them. At least, not a traditional RTS. Against any serious RTS game, Halo Wars is a casualized joke of a game.

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I know it sounds quite strange but an RTS on Console could be acually decent

LotsPC Gamers Said FPScouldnotbe done on Console's boy where they wrong, Well Bungie and Rare showed them

Btw im mainly a PC gamer as well.

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#22 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Dawn of War, easily.

Be serious. Halo Wars is an RTS on a console. There are plenty of game genres on the PC that can be adapted for the console, but the RTS genre is not one of them. At least, not a traditional RTS. Against any serious RTS game, Halo Wars is a casualized joke of a game.

go7400

I know it sounds quite strange but an RTS on Console could be acually decent

LotsPC Gamers Said FPScouldnotbe done on Console's boy where they wrong, Well Bungie and Rare showed them

Btw im mainly a PC gamer as well.

Yes they can be done but they will never be as great as RTS on the PC

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#24 skrat_01
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Halo Wars is untried, and could very well fail miserably.

The DoW formula has been sucessful for 4 years.

For that reason SS expansion > Halo Wars

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#25 skrat_01
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I know it sounds quite strange but an RTS on Console could be acually decent

LotsPC Gamers Said FPScouldnotbe done on Console's boy where they wrong, Well Bungie and Rare showed them

Btw im mainly a PC gamer as well.

go7400

The principles of RTS are very different to FPS. Its a VERY illogical comparison.

And if anything the whole Console vs PC FPS thing proves how behind console shooters have been for so long - and whenever the gap closes, it suddenly becomes even larger

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#26 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="SpigleyMcCheese"]I dunno. Dawn of War has gone downhill a bit since Dark Crusade. They overpowered the Necrons a little too much in that game.
Lonelynight

I pwn them with the ImperialGuards

I pwn them ImperialGuards with teh Tau.

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#27 ZanyIce
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I pick Halo Wars because it's Halo! and Dawn of War is...... Warhammer....
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#28 aliblabla2007
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I pick Halo Wars because it's Halo! and Dawn of War is...... Warhammer....ZanyIce

Enjoy.

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#29 CrimsonBlade360
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Can we wait for the game to come out first?
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#30 aliblabla2007
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Anymoar opinions?

BTW, if you don't want to compare, leave this thread and don't compare.

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#31 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="SpigleyMcCheese"]I dunno. Dawn of War has gone downhill a bit since Dark Crusade. They overpowered the Necrons a little too much in that game.
aliblabla2007

I pwn them with the ImperialGuards

I pwn them ImperialGuards with teh Tau.

Leman Russ> Every Tau vehicle and Baneblade > Tau's Relic Unit(forget its name)

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[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="SpigleyMcCheese"]I dunno. Dawn of War has gone downhill a bit since Dark Crusade. They overpowered the Necrons a little too much in that game.
Lonelynight

I pwn them with the ImperialGuards

I pwn them ImperialGuards with teh Tau.

Leman Russ> Every Tau vehicle and Baneblade > Tau's Relic Unit(forget its name)

Was playing with mods.