Despite my love for Sony, investing in limited editions of multi plats is silly!

Anyone else feel this way?

I loved their E3, and in general I love the PS3. BUT, I ussually get all my multi plats on 360, and 9 times out of 10, multi plats sell better on 360, unless it's a soccer game, Batman, etc. I base buying multi plats on exclusive dlc (like Joker's revenge, timed CoD maps on 360, ect), and most importantly on which of my friends has them.

Limtied editions in NO way peak my curiousity. Does it sway the way you buy games, or is it a waste of time?

That deadspace LE certainly got my interest.. was going to get it on PC until I saw that..

Microsoft did the same thing

EA are very loyal to sony, most of EA's succes is from PC/sony's consoles

Activision are loyal to money, thats why they love Microsoft so much this gen, Seems activision loved sony more last 2 gens

Depends on cost, and added content.

I'd never spend $10 extra just to get an extra in-game sword, or bonus character, but I could find myself paying $10 for an extra set of side missions + an art book, or collectible figure if I happen to enjoy the series enough.

most of EA's succes is from PC/sony's consolesUltizer

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]most of EA's succes is from PC/sony's consolesIronBass

dont need one

Anyone else feel this way?

I loved their E3, and in general I love the PS3. BUT, I ussually get all my multi plats on 360, and 9 times out of 10, multi plats sell better on 360, unless it's a soccer game, Batman, etc. I base buying multi plats on exclusive dlc (like Joker's revenge, timed CoD maps on 360, ect), and most importantly on which of my friends has them.

Limtied editions in NO way peak my curiousity. Does it sway the way you buy games, or is it a waste of time?

Squall18

dont need oneUltizer

Actually we do.

If you make a claim like that, some kind of proof is always needed.

Microsoft did the same thing

EA are very loyal to sony, most of EA's succes is from PC/sony's consoles

Activision are loyal to money, thats why they love Microsoft so much this gen, Seems activision loved sony more last 2 gens

Ultizer

Sony is just fighting fire with fire. Multiplats seem to sell based on deals like this, and M$ has been doing DLC deals for a long, long time (GTA4, Fallout 3, COD, etc)

I don't like it, because I would rather have more funding towards new IP's and games, but the consumers seem to like it. It's a lot cheaper to throw a 3rd party some cash for some extra than it is to create an entirely new game, and it boosts sales.

Dead Space Blu-Ray and Medal of Honor Blu-Ray both get special deals only for PS3, just like Command and Conquer : Red Alert 3 Blu-Ray and Dante's Inferno Blu-Ray . Cool, I guess.

I agree,but ms does the same crap with dlc,and it makes them look both really bad.Oh well...

I'm a sucker for limited editions and I tend to buy all my mulit-plats on the PS3 anyway. Win-win for me.

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Gxgear

I got the Resident Evil 5 Limited Edition (sucks, you only get a 10 min video of how they made the game), AC2: Black Edition (great) and BioShock 2 Limited Edition (Awesome). Can't say I regret it, for the most of the part, they are all ( read: almost all) great.

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Gxgear

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

SolidTy

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

I'm a sucker for limited editions and I tend to buy all my mulit-plats on the PS3 anyway. Win-win for me.

yokofox33

9 times out of 10 multiplats sell better on 360??? either way why does it matter if they sell better? are you getting a cut from those sales? Anyways HELL YEAH, it about time devs started filling up those blu-ray discs with content. Now Lemms cant say "but... but teh mulltiplatz are better and sell moar on teh 360". Also how can limited editions not peak your curiousity when its the same price as the regular one.RTUUMM

Sony is just fighting fire with fire. Multiplats seem to sell based on deals like this, and M$ has been doing DLC deals for a long, long time (GTA4, Fallout 3, COD, etc)

I don't like it, because I would rather have more funding towards new IP's and games, but the consumers seem to like it. It's a lot cheaper to throw a 3rd party some cash for some extra than it is to create an entirely new game, and it boosts sales.

Dead Space Blu-Ray and Medal of Honor Blu-Ray both get special deals only for PS3, just like Command and Conquer : Red Alert 3 Blu-Ray and Dante's Inferno Blu-Ray . Cool, I guess.

SolidTy

Actually the Dead Space one has got me interested.siLVURcross

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Sony is just fighting fire with fire. Multiplats seem to sell based on deals like this, and M$ has been doing DLC deals for a long, long time (GTA4, Fallout 3, COD, etc)

I don't like it, because I would rather have more funding towards new IP's and games, but the consumers seem to like it. It's a lot cheaper to throw a 3rd party some cash for some extra than it is to create an entirely new game, and it boosts sales.

Dead Space Blu-Ray and Medal of Honor Blu-Ray both get special deals only for PS3, just like Command and Conquer : Red Alert 3 Blu-Ray and Dante's Inferno Blu-Ray . Cool, I guess.

Midnightshade29

Don't get me wrong, if I'm going to buy those games, I'm going to buy those PS3 Blu-Ray versions. I just don't like what the trend seemingly is costing gamers in the long run. I do think the extra's are cool, but I always wonder what this is costing me, the gamer, in the long run.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Midnightshade29

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

I know it's not DLC, it's much cooler than that, and as I said in my first post in this thread, EA has already done this before with Command and Conquer and Dante's Inferno. These extra's in these two games are very cool indeed, and I'm well aware of that. However, if I was told that Sony is closing down/downsizing/selling off some of their 1st party studios in leu of deals like this, I wouldn't be happy.

Imagine PS4 and Xbox 720, and imagine they have very small 1st party companies, however, all kinds of crazy 3rd party deals are being made by both companies (GTA5, Medal of Honor 7, COD 12, Final Fantasy, etc.). Is that a future you want? It's not one I want. I'm not willing to give up entirely new games for some sweet side extra's on other games. I'm just talking about the long run here.

The short term is AWESOME! and SWEET...but I don't like the longterm effects if this Trend were to catch on, as I have already seen the effects of the trend.

In the meantime, just like any of us, I will still enjoy the benefits of these two great deals (Extra Deadspace and Extra Medal of Honor Frontline HD), but I just like to ponder about the future.

Actually its a smart move, they know that when limited stuff and exclusive stuff added will seel more on their system so their doing it, i'll get Medal of Honor for PS3 and my brother is getting Dead Space for ps3 because of the limited edition, lots of people i know are also going to do the same thing for Dead Space cuz for 1 price your getting 2 full games, getting the ps3 version is the smartest move

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

SolidTy

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

I agree completely. Also if you think about, if Sony did indeed pay for this exclusive content. How much is it really costing the dev to actually create it? For both Dead Space and MoH the extra here is a port of a game they've already developed. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, IF Sony did indeed pay for this content, most of the money isn't going to content for us gamers, its going into the pockets of the devs.

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Sony is just fighting fire with fire. Multiplats seem to sell based on deals like this, and M$ has been doing DLC deals for a long, long time (GTA4, Fallout 3, COD, etc)

I don't like it, because I would rather have more funding towards new IP's and games, but the consumers seem to like it. It's a lot cheaper to throw a 3rd party some cash for some extra than it is to create an entirely new game, and it boosts sales.

Dead Space Blu-Ray and Medal of Honor Blu-Ray both get special deals only for PS3, just like Command and Conquer : Red Alert 3 Blu-Ray and Dante's Inferno Blu-Ray . Cool, I guess.

SolidTy

Don't get me wrong, if I'm going to buy those games, I'm going to buy those PS3 Blu-Ray versions. I just don't like what the trend seemingly is costing gamers in the long run. I do think the extra's are cool, but I always wonder what this is costing me, the gamer, in the long run.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Inger1

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

I agree completely. Also if you think about, if Sony did indeed pay for this exclusive content. How much is it really costing the dev to actually create it? For both Dead Space and MoH the extra here is a port of a game they've already developed. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, IF Sony did indeed pay for this content, most of the money isn't going to content for us gamers, its going into the pockets of the devs.

Yes, indeed, it's a good point that I've considered as well, but it's just one of those things we have to hope for the best.

These companies want to maximize their profits, so it's understandable, but the Tales of Vesperia (360 version financed PS3 version, etc.)story comes to mind a few years back. Again, I don't blame completely blame Sony, since I don't know for sure, and a huge 3rd party trend isn't established with them yet, but it's a concern most definitely.

It's a good deal for MOH and Deadspace consumers, but these 3rd Party deals always worry me a bit.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] Your darn right its cool... cool for people like me who only own a ps3 and pc and will not ever own a 360. I pay the same price and get free games. Its games - full length games that are probably 3x longer then that peice of crap shooter mw2. Plus they are single player which makes it so great!!! Tired of dlc being multiplayer focused.

Midnightshade29

Don't get me wrong, if I'm going to buy those games, I'm going to buy those PS3 Blu-Ray versions. I just don't like what the trend seemingly is costing gamers in the long run. I do think the extra's are cool, but I always wonder what this is costing me, the gamer, in the long run.

How is it costing me? That's what I wonder.I don't know if it's costing me anything. When I talk about cost, I don't mean literally, I mean what the price of this content in the long run. If more and more deals like this are made in the future, and assuming Sony is financing them, it stands to reasnn Sony has a finite amount of resources, so therefore wouldn't be able to fund as many 1st party games in the long run.

I realize it's not an expensive process to port a game over that has already been developed and remaster them. I think it's a great deal, but I wonder, since I do not know, the toll this will take on us gamers in the long run. When I saw it at E3, I thought those two games seemed really good, in fact, it wasn't the same ol' same ol' DLC deals we've seen in the past, this particular 3rd party deal seemed pretty inventive.

It's totally possible this won't affect gamers in the long run at all, but I just want to get others to think about 3rd party deals in general, and what they may or may not cost us gamers. I think this will be popular, and we will see deals like this in the future, and unfortunately, that means less funding for other projects.

It's a lot cheaper to make a deal with 3rd parties than it is to make an entirely new game, and this is a lesson we've already seen from the Xbox brand. Look at their 1st party division, but 3rd party deals happen all the time.

I wouldn't say it's silly because thanks to the better versions of upcoming EA games and Portal 2, I have 3 friends who own xbox that are dying for a PS3 now. One of them is getting a PS3 in August. It's working and these aren't just some multi plats, they are the most anticipated multi plats that are coming out soon (Medal of Honor, Dead Space 2, Portal 2, Assassins Creed: Brotherhood).

For ppl who dont get it this is more then a partner ship with sony this is a counter attack against activision and there deah 360

That deadspace LE certainly got my interest.. was going to get it on PC until I saw that..

Espada12

Im all for Sony investing in limited editions. MS has done it for years and alot of people loved it. Why cant Sony do the same. More content for fans is good imo as long as its good. Im loving the Dead Space 2 extra content.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

Inger1

They probably paid, we don't know for sure though.

It's a strategy the Xbox brand has been doing for years, even with the original Xbox. It took Sony a long time to adapt, but I don't like it. I would much rather have that money channeled to more new games, since I have all the machines.

I do know it's incentives like this and DLC deals that people determine which platform they buy their games on...and Sony figured that out as well. The trade off is that ultimately could mean less games for us in the long run. Look at M$. They closed off first parties studios, downsized them, or sold them off. Then they make deals like this all the time for first day DLC, or Fallout 3 type of DLC deals, or even GTA4 DLC deals.

I would rather have those 1st parties not sold off/downsized/closed down, and get more games...but this strategy seems to make consumers happy, and it's cheaper than funding an entirely new game.

I think it's too high a price, personally.

The 3rd parties probably love the extra cash, and they don't deserve it imo.

I agree completely. Also if you think about, if Sony did indeed pay for this exclusive content. How much is it really costing the dev to actually create it? For both Dead Space and MoH the extra here is a port of a game they've already developed. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, IF Sony did indeed pay for this content, most of the money isn't going to content for us gamers, its going into the pockets of the devs.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Does Sony actually pay to get the extra goodies (DLC/content/LEs) or is it just the publishers trying to give PS3 gamers extra incentive to buy the games?

RTUUMM

Sony and MS both have lots of money to throw around

the thing is sony spent it smartly, GTA4 DLC didnt sell well at all, MW2 maps are on the PS3 just delayed by a month or 2

sony spent it on Coca,cola ad's

i think sony win

I bought RDR for my PS3 and quickly realized that it was a huge mistake.08107039

Rockstar cant dev for PS3, should of learned that with gta4

That deadspace LE certainly got my interest.. was going to get it on PC until I saw that..

Espada12

[QUOTE="08107039"]I bought RDR for my PS3 and quickly realized that it was a huge mistake.Ultizer

Rockstar cant dev for PS3, should of learned that with gta4

It's a great idea. Only reason why Batman Arkham Aslyum sold so much more on the PS3. It makes perfect sense.Easyle

I see your point. I just wonder how much they're paying these companies.

Use the space is what I say. It might not even take a lot from Sony for EA to do that, as it's ultimately going to help them sell more copies anyway. Who knows, maybe they wanted to do it on 360 but didn't want to use two discs. Do they have to pay extra license fees for the second disc?

And they chose the worst games too. Microsoft was lucky to get GTA deal. The Dead Space and Medal of Honor bonuses are weak.