Destructive Lemmings Ownage, Beware Lems

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#1 hamidious
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http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=964

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#2 WilliamRLBaker
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http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=964

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hamidious

 

Lets see an unscientific or formal survey where any one could take it and post?
hmmmmm

If it was a formal survey by microsoft and only people with a confirmed hotmail or live linked email got an email asking them to take it and 61% of the people said their 360's broke then microsoft released those numbers. i'd be more willing to believe you, BUT Rarely are unofficial netsurveys accurate.

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#3 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Wow - you're an idiot if you believe that. I say it's in the 4 to 7% range. They only surveyed a mere couple thousand people out of what, twelve million Xbox 360 owners?
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#4 Eltroz
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And if you believe that I have a nice bridge to sell you. If it was that high there would be a recall. Heck if was 25% 1 out of every 4 systems there would be a recall.
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#5 Kook18
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that would mean about 6.1 million 360s have fried. bullcrap. M$ would've had a recall if that were the case.
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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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another thing only about 3800 or so people took the survey, 2600 or so people said their 360's had broken, a survey is to give a picture of the entire population of a thing.

so if we go by those numbers hat means abot 6 million 360's have broken down...really you actually believe that?
No lets just face it unofficial net surveys are easy to fool.
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#7 DXGreat1_HGL
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  I give up, where is the ownage? Oh self-ownage on TC...
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#8 themyth01
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 If the people that took the survey are those that had their consoles brake on them, obviously most of them will have broken 360s... what is this thread trying to prove exactly?
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#9 WilliamRLBaker
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another thing, it should be Destructive Lemming ownage not lemmings ownage.
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#10 pundog
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If it was really over 60% MS would have had a recall, the news would be having a field day, and the BBB or some other watchdog group would be going ape s***.
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#11 RossRichard
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Yeah and 2,000 of the people on the survey could have been hardcore cows who have never even touched a 360. Trying to claim "Destructive Lemmings Ownage" over some anonymous internet survey of 2,600 people is a very, very, very lame attempt at ownage.

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#12 tree-branch
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im a lem and it dint own me because my 360 has been perfect.
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#13 El_Fanboy
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that is just sad
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#14 themyth01
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Yeah and 2,000 of the people on the survey could have been hardcore cows who have never even touched a 360. Trying to claim "Destructive Lemmings Ownage" over some anonymous internet survey of 2,600 people is a very, very, very lame attempt at ownage.

RossRichard

 Indeed, this has to be the most major cow self-ownage yet.

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#15 azrealhk
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Wow - you're an idiot if you believe that. I say it's in the 4 to 7% range. They only surveyed a mere couple thousand people out of what, twelve million Xbox 360 owners?Stevo_the_gamer
Most Lemmings quote about these numbers, some say 3-5%. But that means about 1 in 25 consoles break. THAT IS A BIG DEFECTIVE RATE, for any kind of product.
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#16 DXGreat1_HGL
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Yeah and 2,000 of the people on the survey could have been hardcore cows who have never even touched a 360. Trying to claim "Destructive Lemmings Ownage" over some anonymous internet survey of 2,600 people is a very, very, very lame attempt at ownage.

RossRichard

 Bu bu bu all they want for Christmas is a PSP...

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#17 pundog
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wow - you're an idiot if you believe that. I say it's in the 4 to 7% range. They only surveyed a mere couple thousand people out of what, twelve million Xbox 360 owners?azrealhk
Most Lemmings quote about these numbers, some say 3-5%. But that means about 1 in 25 consoles break. THAT IS A BIG DEFECTIVE RATE, for any kind of product.

Thats the average for the electronic industry.
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#18 hamidious
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The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.
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#19 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Wow - you're an idiot if you believe that. I say it's in the 4 to 7% range. They only surveyed a mere couple thousand people out of what, twelve million Xbox 360 owners?azrealhk
Most Lemmings quote about these numbers, some say 3-5%. But that means about 1 in 25 consoles break. THAT IS A BIG DEFECTIVE RATE, for any kind of product.

 Um 3 - 5 % is the industry norm...

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#20 RossRichard
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The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.hamidious

Yeah theres ownage, but not the kind you were hoping for.

Seems that every day, cows are getting more and more desperate.

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#21 pundog
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The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.hamidious
That survey polled roughly 1 in every 3200 360 owners, you should be embarassed to claim any ownage by it.
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#22 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="hamidious"]The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.RossRichard

Yeah theres ownage, but not the kind you were hoping for.

Seems that every day, cows are getting more and more desperate.

 As the bad news for Sony keeps trickling in, expect more phony threads purtaining to 360 failure rates to appear. Sony is beginning to look like a US Political Party, don't work at solving the problem, just point out your oppositions faults...

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#23 themyth01
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The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.hamidious

 There were just over 2000 people surveyed, let's say 1200 said their 360s broke, that's not even 1% of all of the xbox360s out there. Not to mention that those people that did participate could have been anybody even people without 360s. Self-ownage at its best.

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#24 RossRichard
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[QUOTE="RossRichard"]

[QUOTE="hamidious"]The survey comes from a 360 fan site. I don't claim that the failure rate is that high, but it is much higher than M$ and its fanboys are claiming. Ownage Ownage, big one.DXGreat1_HGL

Yeah theres ownage, but not the kind you were hoping for.

Seems that every day, cows are getting more and more desperate.

 As the bad news for Sony keeps trickling in, expect more phony threads purtaining to 360 failure rates to appear. Sony is beginning to look like a US Political Party, don't work at solving the problem, just point out your oppositions faults...

Argh *remembers the crappy photoshops on the day the 360 Elite launched*

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#25 Prid3r
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Surveys sucks , you never know if the guy , who take the survey, tell the truth or not . I wouldn't even be surprised if they called krasy ken to know if is 360 have broken :roll:

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#26 hamidious
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umm, the real numbers are with M$, if they wanted you to know them they would have released them already. Why haven't they confronted all the speculations and rumors? They just don't want you to know, they prefer to lie and sell the consoles. I would take consumers' word rather than a corporate anyday.

Another thing, Matt Cassamina from IGN in his blog stated that he is on his 5th 360, that's just wonderful.

5% my arse, I love lemmings, you tell them the cup is empty they tell you it has a few drops in it, it's full.

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http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=964

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hamidious

Self-ownage for linking to a statistically unsound survey. What's the sample? Can you tell me the common factor among people sampled? I see no way of verifying that only Xbox 360 owners participated, I do see a venue for anyone with a grudge against Microsoft to ruin a poll - woo!

If you want to find out the failure rate, you need a random sample of Xbox 360 owner, a sufficiently large sample, and statistics that are actually comparable to an expected value. Now, if you were busting out some alpha values for Ho, showing me that you could disprove the hypothesis that the Xbox 360 failure rate is 3% or less, I might care, but this crap?

Common sense tells you that there are not 6.1 million broken Xbox 360s, statistics tells you that this survey is actually *worse* than just pulling a number out of your butt - congrats.