Deus Ex Human Revolution to feature difficulty scaling based on your level.

http://games.on.net/article/10478/Interview_Deus_Ex_Human_Revolution

"Sebastien Bich:It scales based on how much experience points you have, and how you level up within the game."

One of the most annoying features of Oblivion, Now in Deus Ex 3 :(

goddammit

i'm sick of this level scaling crap

Boooo, why can't they just judge based on how well you play. If you suck, and miss a lot of shots and get caught a lot, the A.I. will dumb down, but if you are really good and play at a really high skill level, the A.I. will get ramped up

It's there to prevent you from grinding and then steamrolling through the game. I don't see a problem with this. Especially not since it's a FPS anyways.

hate this crap :( i think new vegas got rid of it right?

Level scaling in a linear game? Nicccee.

hate this crap :( i think new vegas got rid of it right?

icyseanfitz

I remember a lot of games that have this end up very hard.

I hope this doesn't stop Deus Ex 3 from being any good.

I hate when games do this, whats the point in powering up then? Its one of the things that killed FF8 for me...

Definitely one of the worst trends this gen.

I hate when games do this, whats the point in powering up then? Its one of the things that killed FF8 for me...

Ziek-AAT

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I hate when games do this, whats the point in powering up then? Its one of the things that killed FF8 for me...

AAllxxjjnn

and even if you did, they don't respawn

So the difficulty goes up as you level up? Not that bad I guess.

scaling sucks because it gets rid of your sense of progress as a character whats the point in leveling up stats etc. if it makes no difference to what you can do to an enemy it also gets rid of those great times where you go exploring and end up in an area where you dont stand a chance against the enemies (sets a goal for development)

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I hate when games do this, whats the point in powering up then? Its one of the things that killed FF8 for me...

ohthemanatee

and even if you did, they don't respawn

I'm fine with it. I don't think people understand how impossible it is to do a game with a lot of freedom in this day and age without it. If they didn't it just leads to a broken game that is easily exploited, or forces the player into uncomfortable and poorly controlled situations. Also, Oblivion made mistakes within the system that screwed it up, it wasn't fundamentally flawed. rolo107

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] There is no point...so don't power level. rolo107

and even if you did, they don't respawn

so you're saying we should enemies that magically come back to life in a series that toutes itself for it's realism?

If a headshot's still a headshot and a backstab's still a backstab, I won't care.

Add more guards if you think that'll make spotting me easier, give them better weapons if they're having trouble shooting, but don't make skill useless by making them immortal. That's the difference between Oblivion and Deus Ex. Oblivion's very stat dependent in all of your actions. This isn't.

[QUOTE="rolo107"]I'm fine with it. I don't think people understand how impossible it is to do a game with a lot of freedom in this day and age without it. If they didn't it just leads to a broken game that is easily exploited, or forces the player into uncomfortable and poorly controlled situations. Also, Oblivion made mistakes within the system that screwed it up, it wasn't fundamentally flawed. emorainbo

[QUOTE="rolo107"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]you couldn't power level in the original Deus Ex even if you wanted to, it's not like you get experience by killing enemies.

and even if you did, they don't respawn

ohthemanatee

so you're saying we should enemies that magically come back to life in a series that toutes itself for it's realism?

Difficulty won't increase as the game progresses, if the enemies scale in tandem with your character then the difficulty will be constant throughout. How boring.-Feath-

First of all, this is a linear game so I really don't see how much of a difference it is gonna make anyway, unless there are plenty of side quests. Second just because a game has level scaling it doesn't mean each level the enemy progresses as much as you do. Take this formula for instance.

• My power=10+level
• Enemy power=25+0.1*level

This means that for each level, while the enemy gains some power, it is very insignificant compared to what I gain. There is still plenty of reasons to level, I still gain a lot more power than the enemy. Going by my example there I should have caught up by level 17. There is still plenty of time I am significantly weaker than the enemy and there is still the feeling of being weak and climbing up to the top of the ladder. In addition, from what I have heard, enemies in Fallout 3 stopped leveling with you after a certain point. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the level scaling system, but I don't think it makes leveling up pointless either unless the system is poorly implemented like in Oblivion.

http://games.on.net/article/10478/Interview_Deus_Ex_Human_Revolution

"Sebastien Bich:It scales based on how much experience points you have, and how you level up within the game."

One of the most annoying features of Oblivion, Now in Deus Ex 3 :(

ferret-gamer

Once you known how to deal with the system, the level scaling of enemies in Oblivion is no more a problem.

In other words, your enemies level with you. Not such a bad thing if you ask me.

That worked so well in Oblivion. It worked so well that people played through the entire game trying not to level up.

This game has me worried.

I told everyone this game was going to be disappointing, and people didn't believe me for some reason. And people act surprised? :lol:Mcspanky37

It's out already?

Yay it's FF8 all over again :DSilverChimera

Why is this bad? This means the game will provide a challenge the whole way through. No power leveling so you just plow through enemies like it's nobody's business

Boooo, why can't they just judge based on how well you play. If you suck, and miss a lot of shots and get caught a lot, the A.I. will dumb down, but if you are really good and play at a really high skill level, the A.I. will get ramped up

kingman03

Why is this bad? This means the game will provide a challenge the whole way through. No power leveling so you just plow through enemies like it's nobody's business

BPoole96

Why is this bad? This means the game will provide a challenge the whole way through. No power leveling so you just plow through enemies like it's nobody's business

BPoole96

if the game have exploration there will be no point of it you will find same loot and enemies everywhere ,kind of lame

i love to crush the weaker enemies and confront stronger ones

Only those who havent played a Deus Ex have a problem with this. They're thinking of this in terms of RPGs and its a completely different situation.

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Why is this bad? This means the game will provide a challenge the whole way through. No power leveling so you just plow through enemies like it's nobody's business

oldkingallant

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Why is this bad? This means the game will provide a challenge the whole way through. No power leveling so you just plow through enemies like it's nobody's business

oldkingallant

Idk I like just overcoming the difficulty on my own rather than going off to farm XP to level up and be as powerful as possible. I'd get bored if at the end of the game I could just go around curb stomping any enemy that gets in my path