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#1 wakefulness
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Developers Comment on NGP

Major third party producers and directors share their price forecasts and say what features attract them.

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Discuss: How the NGP will revolutionize portable online gaming and how developers will help achieve this.

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"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

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"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

nervmeister

They learned!!!

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[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

They learned!!!

for now they did. lets see if this is also going to be for the ps4
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I still wish we knew more of the specifics of the chip architecture to break it down, but Sony is looking to pony up to developers this go around (note to self: always a good strategy).

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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

Yeah, I hoped Sony would learn from some of the gambles they took with PS3. I am psyched for the NGP
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Doesn't have Nintendo support though, which is a big deal for me when it comes to handhelds.
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Doesn't have Nintendo support though, which is a big deal for me when it comes to handhelds. SAGE_OF_FIRE
That said, have you played the Ninja Gaiden game for the DS? It's got me thinking of getting a DS
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Doesn't have Nintendo support though, which is a big deal for me when it comes to handhelds. SAGE_OF_FIRE
Well what do you expect Sony to do about it?
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

what makes you think that, oh just because they use existing tech --psp used existing tech and was 100 more then ds remember that all due to additional accesories we didnt need lol , -eg head seat demos so ya im still gonna say itll cost from 300 to 350 this developer saying itll launch at the price of psp better look again as to why 3ds is 250 to begin with , it has the graphics of a wii plus 3d , if ngp has graphics of ps3 and sony sells it for 250 theyll only hurt them selfs lol (youll see why ps3s cost 300 ) dont forget they can always put needless accesories with it to compensate our loss lol like they did the first time plus even if ngp some how makes it out at 250 its not coming for another year this gives nintendo 1 yr to drop the 3ds price , if they hear ngp is selling competitively theyll be competitive -say 179 ,99 would be a heart stopper for sony , cause dont forget the dsi is still out they can easily dispose of that and xl and dslite and makie the price of 3ds 179.99 plus 3ds plays ds games among other things it has a more original line up then ngp this has always worked for nintendo heres a look at whats coming according to a printout i got from gamestop earlier ridge racer 03 22 2011 tom clancy ghost recon shadow -03 22 2011 asphalt 3d-03 22 2011 pro evo soccer 2011-03 25 2011 ssfiv 3ds -03 27 11 pilot wings resort 3 27 11 combat of giants dinosuars 3ds-3 27 11 steel diver 03 27 11 lego star wars 3-3 27 11 sims 3 -03 27 11 smaurai warriors 3ds-03 27 11 all 3 nintendogs-03 27 011 bust a move 3ds-3 27 11 super onkey ball 3 27 11 rayman 2 3ds-3 27 11 thats all for launch! now heres close but not launch rabbits travel in time 3d-04 02 011 splinter cell 3ds-04 02 11 james noirs holleywood crimes 04 02 11 balloon pop 2-04 16 11 wiliams pin ball collection 3ds-05 03 11 thor god of thunder -05 03 11 dual pen sports-05 04 11 spongbob squibble pants 5/10/11 dead or alive 3ds-05 17 11 lego pirates of the carribean -05 17 11 now heres where it gets even better animal crossing 3ds-06 02 11 dream trigger -possibly part of the chrono trigger series-06 02 11 mario kart 3ds-06 02 11 paper mario 3d 06 02 11 kid icaris up rising -06 02 11 starfox 64 3ds-06 02 11 sin megami tenisl devil surv. over.-06 02 11 ocrina of time 3ds-06 02 11-holy i didnty know that many good games on one day!!!!!! pac man and galaga -06 08 11 transformers 3ds-06 14 11 resident evil mercineries -07 06 11 pet zombies 3ds-09 02 11 face kart photo finish -09 02 11 thats alot of good games , in the span of a few months, lets see if sony can come up with somthing other then what we see already-which consist of 6 games-resistance cod uncharted killzone mgs speaking of that - theres one on 3ds- but i dont have a date for , , so ya also all of these games prices are listed no higher then 40 theres 1 19 dollar game 1 29 dollar 1 24 dollar and 1 35 dollar game , rest are 39.99 i would like to see if ngp matches those cheap in expensive prices -whcih lol are the same price range as ds games ,
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

mariokart64fan

what makes you think that, oh just because they use existing tech --psp used existing tech and was 100 more then ds remember that all due to additional accesories we didnt need. . .

What is the point in even comparing the 3DS launch line up when devs and pulisher are put in a situation where they cannot discuss such things? They need to create quality games for the NGP so they need some time then they can announce all that they will put into the device. At this point in time comparing libraries isn'there or there. There could be arguments about which has better first party brands however, that is hardly the point of discussion because still scripting, game play and other things tied with that are TBA for either side (e.g. Kid icarus and Little Big Planet).

Also, the PSP used MIPS R4000. If a list can be compared between: joint partners with MIPS for the R400 model with consumer end products vs. the joint partner ships with the ARM cortex A9 model and consumer end products . . . than a proper conclusion could be made.Other wise, the opinion that "pspused existing tech" therfore the PSP, " . . was 100 more thends"is invalid as one has not been proven as the root cause as the other. The same must be proved for the statment "all due to additionalaccesorieswedidntneed" is very vague and unclear. Please elaborate and provide proof to your logic!

The rest of your points seem to be tangents based off of the premise (which has already proven as faulty and lacking facts) so if you can please clarify; there will be a bit more to understand where you are coming from.

TY.

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#12 wakefulness
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Onto another subject, the odds of anime game franchises being on the NGP are high.

DBZ

Bleach

Naruto

Ghost In the Shell

Gundam

.hack

Yu-gi-oh

All of these games did very well for the PSP. Asside from new IP's, some old and new anime series based games should make apperances on the NGP as well. Especially since there are so many Japanese third party supporters and anime and manga influences are so prominant in a Japanese games story development.

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Onto another subject, the odds of anime game franchises being on the NGP are high.

DBZ

Bleach

Naruto

Ghost In the Shell

Gundam

.hack

Yu-gi-oh

All of these games did very well for the PSP. Asside from new IP's, some old and new anime series based games should make apperances on the NGP as well. Especially since there are so many Japanese third party supporters and anime and manga influences are so prominant in a Japanese games story development.

wakefulness

I'd be up for gundam games.

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If only there was a good Fullmetal Alchemist game .... :o

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[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

Onto another subject, the odds of anime game franchises being on the NGP are high.

DBZ

Bleach

Naruto

Ghost In the Shell

Gundam

.hack

Yu-gi-oh

All of these games did very well for the PSP. Asside from new IP's, some old and new anime series based games should make apperances on the NGP as well. Especially since there are so many Japanese third party supporters and anime and manga influences are so prominant in a Japanese games story development.

lbjkurono23

I'd be up for gundam games.

Tecmo Koei demoed Dynasty Warriors on the NGP. Koei should seriously consider making a Dynasty Warriors: Gundam title for the NGP as the regular Dynasty Warriors could seem a bit dull and predictable from them.

If only there was a good Fullmetal Alchemist game .... :o

Snakemaster9

There is a Full Metal title out right now for the PSP.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDoZZLW3Qfs&feature=related

It would be cool if on the NGP version ofHagane no Renkinjutsushi(or whatever spin off) the back touch panel could be used for that trick where Edward touches the ground and it raises up. It would seem really intuitive.

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Here's the newer FMA title for the PSP (Yakusoku no Hi e):

1

2

The gfx look great for a PSP game. It probably looks much better on the actual device.

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They're talking about the ngp tomorrow ,right?
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They're talking about the ngp tomorrow ,right?lbjkurono23

Yes. It's probably just another walk through for the NGP but in english and at GDC.

It's between1:30- 2:30pm at San Fransico so that is PST time.

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"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

nervmeister
Cost doesn't always dictate price. I'd say it depends on the competition, if they don't see Nintendo as much of a threat they might still have a big price regardless of low cost.
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Doesn't have Nintendo support though, which is a big deal for me when it comes to handhelds. SAGE_OF_FIRE

Thank god for that. Then my favorite portable would be my 2nd favorite portable.

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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]They're talking about the ngp tomorrow ,right?wakefulness

Yes. It's probably just another walk through for the NGP but in english and at GDC.

It's between1:30- 2:30pm at San Fransico so that is PST time.

Well thats a shame, I thought we were getting some new info.
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

"Nishikawa noted that for the system's GPU and CPU, Sony appears to be taking the exact opposite approach from the PS3, making use of existing technology. This gives them advantages both in terms of cost and allowing programmers be experienced with the architecture."

Looks like we don't have to worry too much about pricing after all.

mariokart64fan

what makes you think that, oh just because they use existing tech --psp used existing tech and was 100 more then ds remember that

PSP used something similar to existing tech (it was still custom, but the instruction set for it was fairly common), and it cost 30 more than DS (the US only got a 250 bundle, not the device alone, so we can only judge from the Japanese price which was PSP alone at about 180).

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#23 hip-fire
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I want Pokemon for NGP