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#1 biggotorium
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Really looking like Nintendo and Valve are teaming up for online, and that Nintendo is treating Gabe very, very well lol (try the link I posted and you'll see) http://www.hiphopgamershow.com/2011/05/gabe-newell-joining-the-wii-2-project-nintendo-aims-to-kill-competition-hhgs-5811/ GABE NEWELL JOINING WII U PROJECT, NINTENDO AIMS TO KILL COMPETITION start @ 12:29 Gabe Newell was impressed with WiiU and it's ease of development. HipHopGamer also said: "Developers are guaranteeing that you will get more out of Nintendo's Online that you will from Xbox Live." It's a bold claim to make, but one I am fully prepared to see realized.
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#2 AmnesiaHaze
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its about time nintendo starts using online and HD

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#3 super600  Moderator
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How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

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#4 biggotorium
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How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

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Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)
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#5 super600  Moderator
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[QUOTE="super600"]

How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

biggotorium

Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)

Wouldn't it be a good idea to put all WiiU info into one thread instead of spamming this board with new info about this console.

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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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hiphop gamer? when did they become reputable.
and sorry Wii u online will be dead upon inception just like DS, DSi, 3ds and wii online are.

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#8 WilliamRLBaker
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hiphop gamer? when did they become reputable.
and sorry Wii u online will be dead upon inception just like DS, DSi, 3ds and wii online are.

biggotorium

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)

ignorance because hiphop gamer is a laughing stock and is not considered reliable? or the fact that Wii's online ds's online, 3ds online are all lame ducks that were dead upon inception and are pretty much widely hated and described as useless?

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#9 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="super600"]

How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

super600

Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)

Wouldn't it be a good idea to put all WiiU info into one thread instead of spamming this board with new info about this console.

They're all about different subjects so no. I'm not going to put a Wii U online thread in the same thread as Suda 51 Wii U interview for instance.
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#11 hexashadow13
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According to hip hop gamer PS Eye can do everything Kinect can. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt thankyou very much.
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#12 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]According to hip hop gamer PS Eye can do everything Kinect can. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt thankyou very much.

What about Gabe Newell, are you going to take his opinion with a grain of salt too? :)
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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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hiphop gamer? when did they become reputable.
and sorry Wii u online will be dead upon inception just like DS, DSi, 3ds and wii online are.

biggotorium

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)

As for that I shouldn't be called ignorant when you dont even know how hiphop gamer is thought of specially since you told a straight out fib making out that mark rein from epic games that has nothing to do with valve or nintendo saying steam comming to Wii u means its a confirmed fact and no where does Gabe say hey we are completely handling the online component of the Wii U like you seem to be claiming.

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#14 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]According to hip hop gamer PS Eye can do everything Kinect can. I'm going to take this with a grain of salt thankyou very much.biggotorium
What about Gabe Newell, are you going to take his opion with a grain of salt too? :)

I dont know but I think we should take the claims you make that mark rein an epic games employee saying wii u and steam means Wii u's online component will be handled by Valve with a rather large grain of salt.
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#15 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

hiphop gamer? when did they become reputable.
and sorry Wii u online will be dead upon inception just like DS, DSi, 3ds and wii online are.

WilliamRLBaker

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)

As for that I shouldn't be called ignorant when you dont even know how hiphop gamer is thought of specially since you told a straight out fib making out that mark rein from epic games that has nothing to do with valve or nintendo saying steam comming to Wii u means its a confirmed fact and no where does Gabe say hey we are completely handling the online component of the Wii U like you seem to be claiming.

Wait... I told a fib? Mark Rein said that on his twitter silly face, and I posted the link
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)biggotorium
As for that I shouldn't be called ignorant when you dont even know how hiphop gamer is thought of specially since you told a straight out fib making out that mark rein from epic games that has nothing to do with valve or nintendo saying steam comming to Wii u means its a confirmed fact and no where does Gabe say hey we are completely handling the online component of the Wii U like you seem to be claiming.

Wait... I told a fib? Mark Rein said that on his twitter silly face

mark rein an epic employee with no connections to nintendo or valve some how confirmed valve was handling the wii u's onlne component? righttt....
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#18 biggotorium
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Here it is again http://twitter.com/#!/MarkRein/status/83671040521285632
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#19 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] mark rein an epic employee with no connections to nintendo or valve some how confirmed valve was handling the wii u's onlne component? righttt....biggotorium
What in the name of heck are you talking about? Mark Rein did make that comment, it's on his official twitter and I posted the link, you really think people in the industry don't communicate with eachother? lol this is embarrassing

Mark Rein an Epic employee with no connection to nintendo or valve some how confirms something that Gabe Newell doesn't confirm? lol
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

hiphop gamer? when did they become reputable.
and sorry Wii u online will be dead upon inception just like DS, DSi, 3ds and wii online are.

WilliamRLBaker

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)

ignorance because hiphop gamer is a laughing stock and is not considered reliable? or the fact that Wii's online ds's online, 3ds online are all lame ducks that were dead upon inception and are pretty much widely hated and described as useless?

No, ignorance because you are making statements about something you dont know s* about.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

biggotorium

Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)

What lot of news? It's the same one with Gabe on it.

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#22 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

What ignorance considering it's looking like Valve is behind the WiiU's online with full Steamworks support. Times have changed, Valve is second to none and blow XBL away in the online sector keep up :)biggotorium
ignorance because hiphop gamer is a laughing stock and is not considered reliable? or the fact that Wii's online ds's online, 3ds online are all lame ducks that were dead upon inception and are pretty much widely hated and described as useless?

No, ignorance because you are making statements about something you dont know s* about.

whatever you believe Man doesn't change the fact that hiphop gamer is generally believed by the majority of gamers on system wars to be a hack, and that the Wii, 3ds, and Dsi's online are lame and useless.
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#24 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="super600"]

How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

edidili

Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)

What lot of news? It's the same one with Gabe on it.

Reggies comments, Squares comments, Gabes comments, Mark Reins comments.... been a hectic news day
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#25 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"]What in the name of heck are you talking about? Mark Rein did make that comment, it's on his official twitter and I posted the link, you really think people in the industry don't communicate with eachother? lol this is embarrassingBlbecekBobecek

Mark Rein an Epic employee with no connection to nintendo or valve some how confirms something that Gabe Newell doesn't confirm? lol

WilliamRLBaker, known system wars lemming and hater, denying something one of the heads of the industry posted on his twitter? lol

lol... that's what I'm saying This Damage Controlling is hilarious It's not like Mark Rein might... just might know something lol
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"] Mark Rein an Epic employee with no connection to nintendo or valve some how confirms something that Gabe Newell doesn't confirm? lolBlbecekBobecek

WilliamRLBaker, known system wars lemming and hater, denying something one of the heads of the industry posted on his twitter? lol

lol... that's what I'm saying This Damage Controlling is hilarious It's not like Mark Rein might... just might know something lol

Odd how neither of you have put forth even a logical argument that disproves mine. Simply repeated a twitter post that means nothing. a twitter post that was called out on its impossiblity that Mark rein would break an Industry secret that only valve or nintendo have the right too.
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"]What in the name of heck are you talking about? Mark Rein did make that comment, it's on his official twitter and I posted the link, you really think people in the industry don't communicate with eachother? lol this is embarrassingBlbecekBobecek

Mark Rein an Epic employee with no connection to nintendo or valve some how confirms something that Gabe Newell doesn't confirm? lol

WilliamRLBaker, known system wars lemming and hater, denying something one of the heads of the industry posted on his twitter? lol

Now you're resorting to calling him a lemming and hater? It's hard to have civil discussions on this board.
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#28 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

Mark Rein an Epic employee with no connection to nintendo or valve some how confirms something that Gabe Newell doesn't confirm? lolWilliamRLBaker

WilliamRLBaker, known system wars lemming and hater, denying something one of the heads of the industry posted on his twitter? lol

Now you're resorting to calling him a lemming and hater? It's hard to have civil discussions on this board.

eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.
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#29 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.

You can "guarantee" you played more videogames combined than two complete strangers that you've never met before? Really? *facepalm*
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#31 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.biggotorium
You can "guarantee" you played more videogames combined than two complete strangers that you've never met before? Really? *facepalm*

most definitely I can guarantee it but really you said this in the other thread. Concerning mark rein, nintendo, and Valve ""Sure he does. He's in bed with both of them."" Sure he is as proven by the massive amount of ds, 3ds, wii games and steam games made exclusively by epic right? with that I don't mind being called a hater since I atleast have played the games I hate on or the games I support.
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#32 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.WilliamRLBaker
You can "guarantee" you played more videogames combined than two complete strangers that you've never met before? Really? *facepalm*

most definitely I can guarantee it but really you said this in the other thread. Concerning mark rein, nintendo, and Valve ""Sure he does. He's in bed with both of them."" Sure he is as proven by the massive amount of ds, 3ds, wii games and steam games made exclusively by epic right? with that I don't mind being called a hater since I atleast have played the games I hate on or the games I support.

So what does you guaranteeing that you play more videogames combined than me and somebody else have to do me saying Mark Rein is in bed with Valve and Nintendo? :lol: It's my logical assertion that something big is going on between them all due to all the recent commentary.
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Well..to be honest...Valve also said they wanted to do Wii game and yet it never happend, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

WilliamRLBaker, known system wars lemming and hater, denying something one of the heads of the industry posted on his twitter? lol

WilliamRLBaker

Now you're resorting to calling him a lemming and hater? It's hard to have civil discussions on this board.

eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.

Don't waste your time arguing with them.

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#35 biggotorium
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Well..to be honest...Valve also said they wanted to do Wii game and yet it never happend, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

AdrianWerner
And Valve also said that the WiiIU now fits into their plans due to its power and scalability to their model, which the Wii never had. I think the skeptics need to get real here. WiiU is getting the big third party titles. This is not just talk. People need to deal with it. Assasins Creed, NG3, BF3. Tekken, Batman AC, Aliens, Ghost Recon ect. are all on the way. Wii never got those mainline titles.
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#36 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="racing1750"] Now you're resorting to calling him a lemming and hater? It's hard to have civil discussions on this board.racing1750

eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.

Don't waste your time arguing with them.

Yeah we're too good at this. :)
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"]You can "guarantee" you played more videogames combined than two complete strangers that you've never met before? Really? *facepalm*biggotorium
most definitely I can guarantee it but really you said this in the other thread. Concerning mark rein, nintendo, and Valve ""Sure he does. He's in bed with both of them."" Sure he is as proven by the massive amount of ds, 3ds, wii games and steam games made exclusively by epic right? with that I don't mind being called a hater since I atleast have played the games I hate on or the games I support.

So what does you guaranteeing that you play more videogames combined than me and somebody else have to do me saying Mark Rein is in bed with Valve and Nintendo? :lol: It's my logical assertion that something big is going on between them all due to all the recent commentary.

one set of commentary by gabe that has nothing to do with the Wii u's online component and a tweet by mark rein epic head that seems more like wishful thinking or joke then actual confirmed fact and yet you keep passing it off as confirmed fact but go ahead and keep making out that there is this big industry discussion about valve and gabe newell is one street corners praising the Wii u...lol and it has to do with the fact that someone who could make the statement they are in bed with each other based upon no logical or factual evidence doesn't affect me when they call me hater and I can confirmI play more games then them,.

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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] eh I can guarantee I've played more video games then both of them combined so dont really care if they call me a hater.biggotorium

Don't waste your time arguing with them.

Yeah we're too good at this. :)

Not really...
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#39 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] most definitely I can guarantee it but really you said this in the other thread. Concerning mark rein, nintendo, and Valve ""Sure he does. He's in bed with both of them."" Sure he is as proven by the massive amount of ds, 3ds, wii games and steam games made exclusively by epic right? with that I don't mind being called a hater since I atleast have played the games I hate on or the games I support.WilliamRLBaker
So what does you guaranteeing that you play more videogames combined than me and somebody else have to do me saying Mark Rein is in bed with Valve and Nintendo? :lol: It's my logical assertion that something big is going on between them all due to all the recent commentary.

one set of commentary by gabe that has nothing to do with the Wii u's online component and a tweet by mark rein epic head that seems more like wishful thinking or joke then actual confirmed fact and yet you keep passing it off as confirmed fact. and it has to do with the fact that someone who could make the statement they are in bed with each other based upon no logical or factual evidence doesn't affect me when they call me hater and I can confirmed I play more games then them,.

I never passed anything off as a "confimed fact" but a bigwig like Mark Rein making these kinds of comments when Gabe has been praising the hell out of WiiU since E3 is pretty telling. I think right now you're in the denial stage. That will pass over into grim acceptance, something I'm sure you've experienced many times before.
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#41 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"]So what does you guaranteeing that you play more videogames combined than me and somebody else have to do me saying Mark Rein is in bed with Valve and Nintendo? :lol: It's my logical assertion that something big is going on between them all due to all the recent commentary.biggotorium
one set of commentary by gabe that has nothing to do with the Wii u's online component and a tweet by mark rein epic head that seems more like wishful thinking or joke then actual confirmed fact and yet you keep passing it off as confirmed fact. and it has to do with the fact that someone who could make the statement they are in bed with each other based upon no logical or factual evidence doesn't affect me when they call me hater and I can confirmed I play more games then them,.

I never passed anything off as a "confimed fact" but a bigwig like Mark Rein making these kinds of comments when Gabe has been praising the hell out of WiiU since E3 is pretty telling. I think right now you're in the denial stage. That will pass over into grim acceptance, something I'm sure you've experienced many times before.

and you did actually you said full steam support incomming no rumor tag no possibly that is saying something is confirmed. And there you go again speading around blatant disinformation Gabe Newell has said some stuff about the Wii u he hasn't been at every oppurtunity praising the Wii u like you are making out.
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#42 biggotorium
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[QUOTE="biggotorium"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] one set of commentary by gabe that has nothing to do with the Wii u's online component and a tweet by mark rein epic head that seems more like wishful thinking or joke then actual confirmed fact and yet you keep passing it off as confirmed fact. and it has to do with the fact that someone who could make the statement they are in bed with each other based upon no logical or factual evidence doesn't affect me when they call me hater and I can confirmed I play more games then them,.WilliamRLBaker
I never passed anything off as a "confimed fact" but a bigwig like Mark Rein making these kinds of comments when Gabe has been praising the hell out of WiiU since E3 is pretty telling. I think right now you're in the denial stage. That will pass over into grim acceptance, something I'm sure you've experienced many times before.

and you did actually you said full steam support incomming no rumor tag no possibly that is saying something is confirmed. And there you go again speading around blatant disinformation Gabe Newell has said some stuff about the Wii u he hasn't been at every oppurtunity praising the Wii u like you are making out.

:lol: You're so desperate at this point your bringing up the same points in multiple threads. There's only so much room to make a title I included the full quote and a link to it inside the thread. I don't need to add a rumor tag. The thread topic was Mark Reins comments. It's not a rumor that he made the comments. He did. Find some more straws to grasp at why don't you.
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#43 SecretPolice
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Sounds expensive, Yup, it's "N" , Hmm, I dunno, $79.99 a year sounds about right for a service that no only rivals XBL but exceeds it :shock:

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#44 biggotorium
Member since 2011 • 76 Posts
We'll see what Valve wants to charge if so
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#45 donalbane
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So HipHopGamer says something negative against Microsoft's online service? I'm so shocked my mouth is frozen agape. I will have to have surgery to have my jaw unhinged.
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#46 Heil68
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I'll believe when I see it. The Wii/DS really soured my opinions of Nintendo online. As far as Valve goes, that's good I guess, but I'll always play their games on PC, so that literally means nothing to me.
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#47 shinrabanshou
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[QUOTE="super600"]

How many Wii U threads have you created in the last couple of hours?

biggotorium

Well lets face it, there's A LOT of news coming for it right now because a fresh new console not an old bird like the 360 or PS3 with nothing new going on, I'm just posting the big news stories as I see em. :)

No there isn't you're either posting old news, made up news, what should be blog posts or the same news over and over again.

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#48 RandomWinner
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="biggotorium"] I never passed anything off as a "confimed fact" but a bigwig like Mark Rein making these kinds of comments when Gabe has been praising the hell out of WiiU since E3 is pretty telling. I think right now you're in the denial stage. That will pass over into grim acceptance, something I'm sure you've experienced many times before.biggotorium
and you did actually you said full steam support incomming no rumor tag no possibly that is saying something is confirmed. And there you go again speading around blatant disinformation Gabe Newell has said some stuff about the Wii u he hasn't been at every oppurtunity praising the Wii u like you are making out.

:lol: You're so desperate at this point your bringing up the same points in multiple threads. There's only so much room to make a title I included the full quote and a link to it inside the thread. I don't need to add a rumor tag. The thread topic was Mark Reins comments. It's not a rumor that he made the comments. He did. Find some more straws to grasp at why don't you.

Aren't you doing the same thing!? I'm not the first to agree with Baker, but come on!? HHG has been known to make up BS all the time and anyone here can tell you he's not reputable. If the topic is about "Mark Reins comments", then why is it grasping for straws to continue saying that he has no connection to Newell or Nintendo because you won't listen?

HHG makes an entertaining show (I HATE IT, but some like it), he does not present reliable information. Just made up rumors.

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#49 LustForSoul
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The WiiU is going to suck like Wii's online and any other handheld online service of Nintendo. That thing will be dead on arrival. Have you seen that thing? At least make a normal console for the more hardcore gamers. They just have to implement some lame gimmick. It's really ugly, so will its online service be. When it comes to online, they have a lot to learn from XBL. I have spoken.
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#50 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

Well..to be honest...Valve also said they wanted to do Wii game and yet it never happend, so I would take it with a grain of salt.

biggotorium

And Valve also said that the WiiIU now fits into their plans due to its power and scalability to their model, which the Wii never had. I think the skeptics need to get real here. WiiU is getting the big third party titles. This is not just talk. People need to deal with it. Assasins Creed, NG3, BF3. Tekken, Batman AC, Aliens, Ghost Recon ect. are all on the way. Wii never got those mainline titles.

Well...better to be a sceptic and then be pleseantly surprised than be hopeless optymist and belive Steam will be on WiiU, which has pretty much zero chances of happening.