Devil May Cry 4 --- My 1st entry into the series...I'm not impressed.

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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Is this how the franchise has always been? If so, then why is there so much praise for these games? I'll list the problems for Devil May Cry 4. I haven't played the other DMC games (but I read the 2nd one is actually the worst), so I'll reserve judgement on those. Here are the problems with DMC4...

1. Horrible camera. Sometimes you can control the camera, many times you can't though. And the times you can't control the camera, a majority of the time, the camera angles are just terrible.

2. Unbalanced as all heck. Sometimes the game is ridiculously easy, then it becomes harder at the most random times, then it becomes easier again.

3. The terrible heavy metal riff that plays everytime enemies are in the area.

4. Incredibly linear. It is so linear that I feel like I'm almost on rails at times.

5. Tons of invisible walls.

6. Cheesy voice acting, over-the-top and cheesy dialog.

7. Nero is just not interesting.

Please tell me the other DMC games aren't just like this...

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#2 HoldThePhone
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Is this how the franchise has always been? If so, then why is there so much praise for these games? I'll list the problems for Devil May Cry 4. I haven't played the other DMC games (but I read the 2nd one is actually the worst), so I'll reserve judgement on those. Here are the problems with DMC4...

1. Horrible camera. Sometimes you can control the camera, many times you can't though. And the times you can't control the camera, a majority of the time, the camera angles are just terrible.

2. Unbalanced as all heck. Sometimes the game is ridiculously easy, then it becomes harder at the most random times, then it becomes easier again.

3. The terrible heavy metal riff that plays everytime enemies are in the area.

4. Incredibly linear. It is so linear that I feel like I'm almost on rails at times.

5. Tons of invisible walls.

6. Cheesy voice acting, over-the-top and cheesy dialog.

7. Nero is just not interesting.

Please tell me the other DMC games aren't just like this...

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DMC3 was the best.

And they are all a lil corny, it's part of the game and it's humour/personality.

DMC4 never interested me when I saw what they did to it.

A complete letdown IMO. Especially after those trailer they teased us with.

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#3 lolkie_81
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Is this how the franchise has always been? If so, then why is there so much praise for these games? I'll list the problems for Devil May Cry 4. I haven't played the other DMC games (but I read the 2nd one is actually the worst), so I'll reserve judgement on those. Here are the problems with DMC4...

1. Horrible camera. Sometimes you can control the camera, many times you can't though. And the times you can't control the camera, a majority of the time, the camera angles are just terrible.

2. Unbalanced as all heck. Sometimes the game is ridiculously easy, then it becomes harder at the most random times, then it becomes easier again.

3. The terrible heavy metal riff that plays everytime enemies are in the area.

4. Incredibly linear. It is so linear that I feel like I'm almost on rails at times.

5. Tons of invisible walls.

6. Cheesy voice acting, over-the-top and cheesy dialog.

7. Nero is just not interesting.

Please tell me the other DMC games aren't just like this...

AvIdGaMeR444

I loved the first dmc, but didnt really car for any of the others. I think its a overrated series. The first dmc for it time, was one of the best games that gen.

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#4 Tiefster
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DMC4 is supposed to be cheesey and over the top just so you know...

Anyway all this thread is going to end up being is an argument about NG, DMC, and GoW.
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I agree, DMC Bore was not the classic people are trying to convince me it was...and I *loved* DMC3...
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#6 BioShockOwnz
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Yup, the series has always been this stale. DMC was the best out of the 4, but it still wasn't as great as some believe. It's an incredibly linear game that really offered nothing outside of its combat system. And yes, it's always been insanely cheesy with corny dialogue and music.
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#7 lolkie_81
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Yup, the series has always been this stale. DMC was the best out of the 4, but it still wasn't as great as some believe. It's an incredibly linear game that really offered nothing outside of its combat system. And yes, it's always been insanely cheesy with corny dialogue and music.BioShockOwnz

This is true. I was young when I played the first dmc. Im sure if I played it now I wouldnt like it. You are so easily pleased when your young and dumb.

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#8 whocares4peace
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DMC 4 was pretty decent until halfway through, and after that it went to hell. Not to start a flame war, but I dont see how people can consider DMC to be in the same category as the NG/GoW games.
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#9 Zeliard9
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I like DMC4 more than 3 and a lot more than any God of War. I only really play these games for the deep, challenging combat, and DMC4 does combat very, very well. As does Ninja Gaiden. And similar to NG, DMC also doesn't do all that much else. But it doesn't really need to, not when the core gameplay is so perfect.

Only reason I like 4 more than 3 is because of Nero. People seem to hate him, as they hate all newcomers to their favorite series, but he's so damn fun to use in fights. Probably even funner than Dante, overall. Dante's great with his multiple styles and Pandora's box, but I really loved Nero's Devil Bringer and the Exceed system, and especially how you can use both of them together along with the Devil Trigger.

And yes, linearity and cheesy dialogue has always been a part of DMC. The latter is a part of its charm, and I consider the voice acting excellent. Don't confuse poor dialogue with poor voice acting. There's only so much they can do with the material.

Btw, what are you talking about with the difficulty spikes? I thought the difficulty was very well paced, in how the game and enemies got tougher as you got through the game, as it should be.

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#10 Solid_Link22
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Too bad :|
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#11 CRUSHER88
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I found the game pretty damn fun. Didn't notice the game get insanely hard at any point. Music can get annoying after a while but its not like I bought the game to listen to some music. Mainly bought the game because I knew I would spend lots of time playing through it. Got around 40+ hours put into the game between 2 xbox accounts and only half way through SOS (would probably be done DMD if I didn't start over on a new account).
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#12 el_rika
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DMC4's true quality is not the kind that jumps in your face.

You have to discover it. Once you do, it stays with you for hundreds of hours. I clocked around 120 hours into it and i'm still just scratching the surface of the fighting engine. It is that complex and intricate and immensly fun once it all clicks.

Though, if you're not into brawlers, you're not and that's the end of it :)

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I was thoroughly impressed and plan on playing the original and the third one.

I'm skipping the second one.

It was better than God of War in that I wasn't stuck in a combo loop when I pressed a button.

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I liked it Sure it's a lazy sequel, but it's still fun as heck, for me anyway. Ninja Gaiden 2 will be better though.
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#15 M3tro1d
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I was thoroughly impressed and plan on playing the original and the third one.

I'm skipping the second one.

It was better than God of War in that I wasn't stuck in a combo loop when I pressed a button.

-TheSecondSign-

The combat in God of war is disgusting on all levels, it's like it was made for two year olds who can only mash buttons.

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#16 skirlnik
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I have played them all. I enjoyed them all for what they were.

Don't believe the hype - for ANYTHING.

Also, why is this in system wars? Is it because you know you're posting flamebait and thought this was the best place to do it?

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#17 hungryheart077
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1. Horrible camera. Sometimes you can control the camera, many times you can't though. And the times you can't control the camera, a majority of the time, the camera angles are just terrible.

2. Unbalanced as all heck. Sometimes the game is ridiculously easy, then it becomes harder at the most random times, then it becomes easier again.

3. The terrible heavy metal riff that plays everytime enemies are in the area.

4. Incredibly linear. It is so linear that I feel like I'm almost on rails at times.

5. Tons of invisible walls.

6. Cheesy voice acting, over-the-top and cheesy dialog.

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were not talking about god of war
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#18 Tykain
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I never played the previous DMC games, so i can't compare it to them. But i loved DMC4, and i disagree with most of your points.
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#19 xn71102244
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dmc3 is wayy better in everything
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#20 DontBeHatin1983
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dmc4was a dissapointed. dmc3 is the best in the series.
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#21 Shinobishyguy
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I was thoroughly impressed and plan on playing the original and the third one.

I'm skipping the second one.

It was better than God of War in that I wasn't stuck in a combo loop when I pressed a button.

-TheSecondSign-
agreed. i love the way the combat systems puts an emphasis on varying up your combos rather than repeating the same move over and over again.
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#22 Kingpin0114
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Play Devil May Cry 3 since its the best one imo.
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#23 Heydanbud92
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shouldn't this be in the DMC4 board? Why SW?
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#24 JiveT
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DMC stands for hand mangling pain, mind numbing repetition, and fighting the same bosses over and over. It's terrible.
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1. Didnt notice it in previous installments
2. It was like that in DMC3 (My first entry into the series)
3. its part of DMC
4. Yeah its kinda like that
5. Didnt notice this in DMC3, but i could be forgetting
6. Yep, thats how it is.
7. Wouldnt know, i've only played a bit of DMC4.

Overall i wasnt really impressed by DMC4. It was a lot like DMC3 -- and it made me bored. Plus, i prefer GOW/PoP over DMC titles.
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#26 ice144
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Too bad :|Solid_Link22

Off-topic, that sig is crazy as hell.

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#27 club-sandwich
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1. That's your opinion some people actually like the fixed camera. 2. Yes it happens at times. What difficulty are you playing on? 3. The music is not horrible. 4. Yeah DMC games are linear. 5. A lot of games have that... 6. DMC has always been cheesy, that's what make it what it is. 7. I thought he was cool.
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#28 Masters_Chief
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Like it really matters what you a newcomer to the series or a bunch of random dw33bs think lol

Good for you. The game is awesome.

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#29 Mad_Rhetoric
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well I loved it:x
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#30 hywel69
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Don't forget the LOADING screens every other screen, and sometimes every 10 secs. Also you lose control of you char, just so that you can get a quick loading screen to show that a red spiders web covers the exit.This happens over and over and over. This game gets old fast, appart from the texture facelift, in fact the whole game engine, virtualy fixed camera etc, makes it look like a dressed up PS2 game. The game was insanely easy, killing all enemies with one move, in fact the loading screens often took longer than the fights. Then I thought to play it on a harder mode so I could actually USE the combos I learnt, then I remembered about the LOADING screens, trade in I think. Rent it first.
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#31 Kiljoy66
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Wow that's like going to see the last lord of the rings without seeing the others or reading the books and asking everyone what you missed. All I can say is that it sucks to be you since you take a series like DMC so seriously to see that it's over the top on purpose.
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#32 RazMaTaz-1
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I wasnt impressed with DMC4 either, quite disapointing, and capcom did a very lazy job with Dantes missions:

However

I mainly play this game for its gameplay mechanics, its something i cant get fed up of, expecially when you can cancel out alot of combos. Cheesyness has always been a DMC pinpoint for each game, and the cameras angles are pretty good. Only once i have had a problem with it.

The music is brilliant, and the lyrics to the song during the play get you pumped to kick the crap outta all monstors, not as heavy as DMC3 tho.

DMC1 + DMC3 will always take the cake. These were the best games of the series.

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#33 ng1234
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DMC1 was awesome. From there on it all went downhill. Thats what happens when you keep rehashing sequels out. It gets less interesting...
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#34 girlpowerz
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Is this how the franchise has always been? If so, then why is there so much praise for these games? I'll list the problems for Devil May Cry 4. I haven't played the other DMC games (but I read the 2nd one is actually the worst), so I'll reserve judgement on those. Here are the problems with DMC4...

1. Horrible camera. Sometimes you can control the camera, many times you can't though. And the times you can't control the camera, a majority of the time, the camera angles are just terrible. (I agree with the camera angle-it was pretty disappointing. But still, that shouldn't prevent you from fighting too much)

2. Unbalanced as all heck. Sometimes the game is ridiculously easy, then it becomes harder at the most random times, then it becomes easier again. (I agree with that, but some games do the same thing)

3. The terrible heavy metal riff that plays everytime enemies are in the area. (I didn't think it was cheesy. I think it added to the game overall)

4. Incredibly linear. It is so linear that I feel like I'm almost on rails at times. (Hmm)

5. Tons of invisible walls. (I agree with that)

6. Cheesy voice acting, over-the-top and cheesy dialog. (It wasn't that cheesy)

7. Nero is just not interesting. (I disagree. He added to the DMC franchise. He isn't better than Dante butit was fun playingwith him)

Please tell me the other DMC games aren't just like this... (Actually, DMC3 is the best overall in my opinion That game was a lot better than this one but that doesn't mean DMC4 was a piece of garbage either)

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#35 chadwardennn
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Only played til the dante part, then stopped playing. Was owning with nero, and all of the sudden i have to play Dante with 8273287x moves... Was all too much, am lazy and quit the game.

Playing with Nero is awesome tho.

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#36 PelekotansDream
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I tried the first one for an hour. Now at the time, that was good and I enjoyed it.

But when I tried 4 I was surprised, it was a letdown. I was being forced down these small areas from what I played, very linear this ain't 2000 or whatever anymore. It was dull, only Otakus would love this "Its like one of those animes I love!" just because it features over the sized swords, guns and stuff you typically find in Japanese anime.

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#37 InfinityMugen
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Heh. The first one was the best one imo. The original team that worked on the first DMC didnt work on the sequels hence its declining quality.